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offline evolume from seattle (United States) on 2005-10-27 18:29 [#01763368]
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"it doesn't feel new"

i get you. i guess that's kinda what i like about it.
sorta.


 

offline marlowe from Antarctica on 2005-10-27 19:10 [#01763407]
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Dayvan Cowboy is Awful imo. I think the album just sags like
a washing line with a heavy sheet in the middle. The
beginning and the end are good, but the middle is just
really really boring.

IMO


 

offline sean qunt from BELFAST on 2005-10-27 19:17 [#01763410]
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oh cheer up


 

offline OK on 2005-10-27 22:38 [#01763445]
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yeah the album is a bit of a let down.


 

offline qrter from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2005-10-28 07:33 [#01763619]
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NEVER


 

offline Raz0rBlade_uk on 2005-10-28 07:35 [#01763621]
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everytime i listen to it i like it more and more. this is
good


 

offline Emiko from Osaka (Japan) on 2005-10-30 23:39 [#01765624]
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I like this album.
Boards of Canada are very famous in Japan.
We have a listening club.
But I like Music Has The Right to Children most.
(But I am careful!)
ja ne
From Emiko


 

offline Ceri JC from Jefferson City (United States) on 2005-10-31 02:56 [#01765678]
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I was a good boy and waited till I had a copy before I
listened, listened to it on a good system and I gave it my
undivided attention and listened to it three times before
commenting on it in any way, but if I had to sum it up in
one word, it'd be this: Disappointing. I know there's a lot
of background detail and subtle variation, but overall, most
of the tracks are far too repetative. I was listening to it
with my gf and she made a fairly accurate observation: "It's
like your early stuff, not musically, just the way it's
done. It's like they had one good idea per track, which they
repeated almost constantly and overused it, then padded the
rest of the time out with fairly boring/incompatible
elements."

Tauntingly, there's the odd synth, backing drum loop or
effect that screams "MHTRTC-era BoC", almost as if to say,
"yes, we can still do good stuff like that, we just don't
want to"

It's nice, but pretty forgettable, and sounds more like
Ulrich Schnauss than BoC. I can't see the melodies sticking
in my head the way 90% of their previous work did. Don't get
me wrong, there are a few good tracks/moments, it's just
that it could have been so much better. Oh and the whole
thing is mastered really badly. It's EQ'd too high pitched
in most places and almost all 'bass' is too gutless. They've
also taken the "destroy the sound" aesthetic to heart and
also detuned things too far, so rather than a guitar or
synth line, slightly warped by time/tape, it just sounds
like an idiot with no sense of pitch has tuned them. That
guitar on chromakey rainbow sounds like a child picking up a
guitar for the first time and trying (unsuccessfully) to
play it. Almost all the background detail is far too low in
the mix too.


 

offline E-man from Rixensart (Belgium) on 2005-10-31 03:23 [#01765695]
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maybe you could offer them a remastering then? :D


 

offline sean qunt from BELFAST on 2005-10-31 04:07 [#01765722]
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oh cheer up, its only a crap joke


 

offline Ceri JC from Jefferson City (United States) on 2005-10-31 04:10 [#01765724]
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Lets be blunt, you can see why Oscar See Through Red Eye was
chosen as the "single"...


 

offline Emiko from Osaka (Japan) on 2005-10-31 04:14 [#01765730]
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What is Campfire Headphase mean?
Is there secret meaning?


 

offline Ceri JC from Jefferson City (United States) on 2005-10-31 04:20 [#01765744]
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You could take it to mean the era (phase) in their life when
they had regular campfires held for the local
enthusiasts/friends (someone who is into something in a big
way is often refered to as a "head")

That said, I don't think there is any hidden meaning in it.
They seem to want to shrug off the whole
mysticism/secrecy/subliminal part of their image and instead
focus on making middle of the road, coffee table
folktronica.


 

offline core from London (United Kingdom) on 2005-10-31 04:26 [#01765754]
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ceri, it's meant to sound like that. and the bit about the
child playing the basic guitar thing in 'chromakey
dreamcoat'... get this: it's MEANT to sound like that.

listen back to all of BOC's music, do you honestly think
that the naive tune in 'hi scores' was that way because they
couldn't actually play? no of course not. BOC hint at these
things all the time but the thing that's good about them is
that they never (or rarely) break out into the kind of
giveaway show-offy keyboard noodliness that you find on,
say, a mu-ziq record.
and the same idea applies to the guitar parts on TCH, it's
deliberately dumb. that's all part of why it's addictive, it
clicks with you several weeks later when you least expect
it. not like the ear-fatigue that you get from a virtuoso
player who is playing too much.


 

offline Emiko from Osaka (Japan) on 2005-10-31 04:27 [#01765757]
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Thats very nice! Are you Boards of Canada expert?
But I like mystery.
I suspect Boards of Canada. I still feel mystery.



 

offline Ceri JC from Jefferson City (United States) on 2005-10-31 04:50 [#01765781]
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I know it's intentional, the comment I made Tauntingly,
there's the odd synth, backing drum loop or
effect that screams "MHTRTC-era BoC", almost as if to say,
"yes, we can still do good stuff like that, we just don't
want to"
reflects that. Fair enough, you don't have to
make music to please anyone other than yourself, but I'd
find it easier to accept if they'd just lost their touch.
Instead it seems like a concious decision was made to make
changes to the style, even if they're for the worse, in
order to avoid reviews along the lines of, "Yes, it's
another good album from Boards, it's just that their style
hasn't really moved on." I accept that artists should grow
and try new things, but with something as perfect as MHTRTC,
it's going to be hard to top.

I think the main thing that they seem to of lost is that
slightly dark, or at least hint of a force to be treated
with respect, mood/atmosphere that was in all previous
releases (although most notably in Geogaddi). I'm not
adverse to the more acoustic sound, the music itself could
be entirely done on a timpani and kazoo and I wouldn't mind,
so long as it felt like BoC. Now that there's no
sense of menace, it's a bit saccharine, mainstream and
light.

So, it doesn't sound, or feel like BoC, apart from the most
fleeting glimpses of what could have been. Damn, I might
have to resume work on the "BoC Pacifier" folder of rip off
tracks I'd been making to help pass the time till this was
released, or, God forbid, start listening to Tycho.

It's certainly a grower and I'm sure I'll like it more and
more as the days go by, I just think that in a years time,
it'll still be the weakest official release by them, to my
ears.

Anyway, nice to see you Core, hope you're well.


 

offline Taffmonster from dog_belch (Japan) on 2005-10-31 04:56 [#01765785]
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you know i really ahvent listened to this album much. Ive
had it a while and i just dont really ever feel like
listening to it. Maybe my tastes have shifted



 

offline core from London (United Kingdom) on 2005-10-31 05:10 [#01765793]
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yeah hi ceri you too! anyway if they'd done a synthy album
they would have gotten criticised for doing the same as last
time, as you said. i think the joni mitchell influence cam
out on this record and if you're not a joni fan then the
connection doesn't make any sense and it just sounds like an
arbitrary guitar move.


 

offline fleetmouse from Horny for Truth on 2005-10-31 07:25 [#01765898]
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I love Joni and I'm not seeing the Joni connection. Are
there particular songs by Joni you think influenced the new
BoC, or is it a more general feeling-thing?


 


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