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bassix
from Adelaide (Australia) on 2005-10-11 02:19 [#01746515]
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anyone out there tried mixing up on 4 decks?
i have been experimenting on 4 decks with a friend of mine (2 decks each). we found it quite difficult at first, getting a rhythm going and also getting the technical aspects correct...such as, should we follow a primary track, should we only have one bassline going at any one time, when to swap the bass, finding out which track was out of time etc.
we thoroughly enjoy mixing this way now as so much more is happening.
has anyone else had similar experiences?
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2005-10-11 02:45 [#01746518]
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I've only tried 3. Even with 3 (or 2 decks and a drum machine), if you have one or more of the tracks that isn't 100% quantised, no amount of beat matching will get it to gel properly if the tracks are remotely crowded and all playing at once. With 2 decks you can often get away with it as having, say, the bassline and drums slightly of time is not really a problem (some styles of music even do that intentionally). I still find 3 decks good for allowing another track to be queued up ready to allow for faster transitions between 3 tracks, as well as using 2 of the decks traditionally, whilst the third is used for samples/scratches.
There's a bloke called DJ Trickster who does 6 decks (he refers to it as cubism). He uses special dubplates with one element of a track on each one (eg bassline on one, snares on the other, pads on another, kick drums on another, etc.) and as he says, trying to use normal records for it, it ends up sounding like "cutlery falling down stairs".
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EVOL
from a long time ago on 2005-10-11 02:47 [#01746520]
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i'd like to try it with two cd decks and two turntables...
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2005-10-11 03:06 [#01746523]
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I've done that before (with Abletone Live on a pc & an electribe drum machine on another channel too!), so for example, you could mix cd->vinyl->vinyl, but I've never had more than 3 things sounding at once.
If cost wasn't so prohibitive, I'd quite like to try 4 decks, 2 final scratch-type devices and a 4 channel mixer and either ready break up tracks to seperate parts (filtering to isolate say a bassline, or cutting and looping during drum solos, etc.) which could then be combined that way, or even doing my own tracks like that, similar to how trixter did.
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Jaser
from Castle Greyskull (United Kingdom) on 2005-10-11 05:20 [#01746540]
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don't bother if you can't mix with 2.
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sadist
from the dark side of the moon on 2005-10-11 07:10 [#01746597]
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jeff mills - exhibitionist - 3 decks
check if you can find a movie from skalpel as they are playing their "journey to outer space" from 4 decks. but there are 2 dj's...
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2005-10-11 07:14 [#01746599]
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umek plays from 4 decks, but i don't see the point of it really.
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Oddioblender
from Fort Worth, TX (United States) on 2005-10-11 07:26 [#01746604]
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i still need another turntable. i already have the mixer and a turntable, and a little stack of wax. (i could get more if i had more money.)
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