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A few days ago I had this stupid-ass hypnotist visit my campus and hypnotised some students. It seemed to me that a few were obviously just going along with it. But some must have actually been under his influence or whatever. Anyway, he was hocking a bunch of hypnotic cds, or whatever you want to call them. They'd supposedly do things like help you stop smoking, lose weight or lessen stress. I think the cds had music on them, but for them to do anything I'm sure they rely completely on the man's voice and what he was saying. He also played some really loud soothing-ish music when he was hypnotising the people. My question is, do you think that music itself could hypnotise or give some sort of subconscious suggestion to the listener? Or if speech is required for any drastic effect, is it possible for hypnotic suggestions to be planted in songs while being disguised as regular singing or 'spoken word' parts? I would think that song lyrics always have had some effect on people if they were to listen to them incessantly.. but is a hypnotic or suggestive effect mainly created by the whole "just focus on my voice / you are getting tired" sort of thing? give me some thoughts please. |
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for things to work u must believe in em goes for hypnotism, music , anyfing really so hypnotism DOES work on lots of ppl if theyre 'open' 2 it my mate put me in a trance a week or 2 back, freeaky as fuk!! |
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Come on you cunts let's have some aphex acid. |
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http://www.frederickwinters.com/>this is the guy that I was talking about. a slightly-annoying 'comedy' hypnotist. |
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Yeah man just the repetitive meter usually get me drowsy or suggestible. |
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William Basinski |
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I think most everyone's missing my point here. I'm not asking for suggestions of music that is 'hypnotic' in that it is good and you get lost in it while listening, I am asking if you think it's possible for music to actually hypnotise in the way a hypnotist does. ..like plant ideas in your head through the lyrics.. .......Fuck. I shouldn't have made my first post so goddamned long. |
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of course its possible, thats what all the best (yr fave ) music does anyway, makes u feel a certain way, innit ? |
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have u seen the lyrics to that Borard Of Cananarda trak which is basically a hypnotism tape gone all mushy ... ? i must have heard that dozens+dozens of times + not realised what it was saying |
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Just relax, and enjoy this pleasant adventure. Here you are, secure and protected, in this, your special place, letting my voice flow into your mind. There's no need to concentrate. Just gently as you go. Suggestions are going into your unconscious mind. Open yourself up to the greater wisdom and understanding. So, now, letting the sound of my voice reach the inner, healthy, receptive centre of yourself. See yourself now in your imagination; and you are being tranformed in a positive healthy way, so you are programming your unconscious mind, gaining new insight into your directions, in the future. Allow yourself to be more aware of your pathway through this life. [Enjoy all that you can.(?)] As the days go by, you are programming your mind, and you are allowing this to happen. These things are happening day by day, just as I tell you they are happening, wherever you are. See this happening. Allow it to become part of you; more and more happily, more and more surely, more and more powerfully, each day. When it is necessary, you can program yourself, be able to dream the information you require. This awareness will come back to you at your own rate. It will never be more than you can cope with. This guidance will help show you the way. This will only happen if you choose it will be so. Ready, now ... from http://fredd-e.narfum.org/boc/lyrics/ |
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he forgot the arhahahhhhh bits. |
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i listen to hypnotic music exclusively! |
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try listening to some inclusively too... it's nice |
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Do you already listen to it reclusively? |
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I listen seductively |
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thanks, i'll try that one day! |
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bllop |
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Well lastnight, instead of going out socialising, I stayed in. I watched the Mark Steel Lecture on BBC4 about Sigmund Freud, and from what little I have learned from that, I would think that those hypno-tapes work best when someone is asleep, probably during dreamtime/ REM. That way they can infiltrate the subconcious, which is they key to unlocking the mind and really messing with it, kinda like an administrator mode on a computer. I'm afraid psycho analysis is not my forte, but I guess you weren't expecting a decent answer on a music board ;) |
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no, i don't think it would work. you'd be either listening to the music, or focussing on a voice. in order to be effectively hypnotised, you have to give in to the suggestions, like steve mcqueen said. and there's not much suggestion in music, and if there was, it would be completely missed (like with the boards of canada track). |
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My brother and I went to the Church of Scientology two days ago in Toronto and watched their 45 minute dianetics video. It went on that people while onconscious hear and remember everything that is said or heard (scientologists think you should always be silent around unconcious or dazed/injured people and during childbirth and surgery). So according to dianetics, If you got into a bike accident and hurt your arm and were dazed while blaring a particular song in your headphones, you could theoretically experience arm pain whenever you hear that song. |
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in 'normal' science that's called 'priming' |
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Priming in psychology refers to activating particular representations or associations in memory just before carrying out an action or task. In a neurological view priming can be seen as the activation of clusters of neurons (which can be seen as little stores of particular information). An interconnected cluster is surrounded by other clusters that are more or less connected with each other. When a cluster is activated, for example by the input of sensory neurons, surrounding clusters that are more interconnected (due to similar information, for example: both clusters represent a kind of flower) become more activated and are therefore more likely to come into consciousness. So when the cluster that represent the concept of "flower" is activated, particular clusters will be more activated then others (i.e. kinds of flowers). These associations are often regarded as unconscious, but can be conscious as well. For example, after studying a list of 20 words containing the word "garbage", a subject can be asked to recall the word by priming with a reminder stimulus "gar_____". |
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