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Monoid
from one source all things depend on 2005-09-23 09:57 [#01731603]
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How do you deal with self hate. I hate that im not the person I want to be, that there are some fragments missing. So I need to channel my self hatred to someone/something else. I really hate capitalists, they are trying to suppress me. But the materialist dialect gives me hope, that i can change for the better.
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i_x_ten
from arsemuncher on 2005-09-23 09:59 [#01731604]
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just go and shag someone. it doesn't matter if they're fat or ugly, it would probably just do you some good.
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2005-09-23 09:59 [#01731608]
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did you try drugs yet?
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Seracelsus
on 2005-09-23 10:00 [#01731609]
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you would only hate yourself if you've convinced yourself you don't have the means to change for the better. if you love yourself you'll encourage yourself to work on aspects you'd like to improve and you'll be patient with what is infallibly a long, careful process.
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dog_belch
from Netherlands, The on 2005-09-23 10:00 [#01731610]
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You're not alone. I hate you too.
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Monoid
from one source all things depend on 2005-09-23 10:02 [#01731612]
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I secretly believe in my negative self image...thats the problem...so i reproduce the same behaviour over and over again. It is an infinite psychotic regression
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DeleriousWeasel
from Guam on 2005-09-23 10:03 [#01731616]
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my parents hate me but NetNannyâ„¢ is alright once she's uninstalled.
Self hate is not a problem, self harm however...
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yann_g
from now on 2005-09-23 10:05 [#01731620]
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if only i knew... maybe lower your expectations towards yourself?
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i_x_ten
from arsemuncher on 2005-09-23 10:08 [#01731623]
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uhh self hate is usually an effect of depression and low self esteem, which can lead to other more serious mental health problems such as self harm. also if you hate yourself you get more depressed. you don't get out of bed, you don't wash you don't eat or sleep, you don't communicate, you smoke and drink and then you hate yourself for it. its a viscious cycle. so i would say self hatred is somewhat something of a problem
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Seracelsus
on 2005-09-23 10:09 [#01731625]
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then it sounds like you have to find the deep reasons why you engage in your negative behavior, and work on understanding those.
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Monoid
from one source all things depend on 2005-09-23 10:09 [#01731628]
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Raise them towards yourself!! Dont accept authority, dont believe anyone anymore
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goDel
from ɐpʎǝx (Seychelles) on 2005-09-23 10:10 [#01731629]
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i try using NLP techniques (which is essentially about dealing with/reframing the self-limiting beliefs which led to the self-hate)
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Monoid
from one source all things depend on 2005-09-23 10:14 [#01731631]
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Is that the same as logotherapy?
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staz
on 2005-09-23 10:15 [#01731633]
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Rationality thrown out the window!
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epohs
from )C: on 2005-09-23 10:17 [#01731636]
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i blabber on messageboards to take my mind off it.
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goDel
from ɐpʎǝx (Seychelles) on 2005-09-23 10:19 [#01731639]
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i'm not familiar with logotherapy, but if the logo stands for logic it could be similar yes. self-limiting beliefs are often the product of bad logic (often over-generalising).
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Monoid
from one source all things depend on 2005-09-23 10:24 [#01731644]
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You mean manichaic logic of the tertium non datur....?
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tridenti
from Milano (Italy) on 2005-09-23 10:27 [#01731647]
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AHAHAH Click here Monoid!
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Monoid
from one source all things depend on 2005-09-23 10:32 [#01731651]
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Self Esteem for Women Everything a Woman needs to build self-esteem & confidence fast! Higher consciousness
I need a woman that builds my self-esteem & confidence fast!! Build it up real hard
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goDel
from ɐpʎǝx (Seychelles) on 2005-09-23 11:00 [#01731679]
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LAZY_TITLE
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tridenti
from Milano (Italy) on 2005-09-23 11:01 [#01731680]
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You might find the right girl for you, if you just go out from your house.
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Monoid
from one source all things depend on 2005-09-23 11:09 [#01731686]
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Yes, a nice whore
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swears
from junk sleep on 2005-09-23 11:12 [#01731687]
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My advice is: fuck it. As Paul Weller said: "Boy it's a tough world and you've gotta be tough with it." (In his Jam days before he became a retro-soul muppet.)
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earthleakage
from tell the world you're winning on 2005-09-23 12:15 [#01731737]
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kick out the style, bring back the jam
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hanal
from k_maty only (United Kingdom) on 2005-09-23 12:32 [#01731752]
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monoid,me and you should just go at it one to one,ring gloves ref,id like to beat you and take pics,make a nice thread.
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AlbertoBalsalm
from ReykjavÃk (Iceland) on 2005-09-23 12:47 [#01731765]
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are you capable of talking about anything other than yourself?
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epohs
from )C: on 2005-09-23 12:51 [#01731768]
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if you dig far enough back, like two or three years, monoid actually made a few posts about music.
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plaidzebra
from so long, xlt on 2005-09-23 13:01 [#01731771]
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that's 99.9% percent of what anybody talks about, isn't it? "what music do I like, what music do i" hate, what do I think about monoid..."
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epohs
from )C: on 2005-09-23 13:03 [#01731772]
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me
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recycle
from Where is Phobiazero (Lincoln) (United States) on 2005-09-23 13:14 [#01731776]
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Gwely Mernans
from 23rd century entertainment (Canada) on 2005-09-23 13:19 [#01731780]
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from wish to will to decision.
whats missing monoid?
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AlbertoBalsalm
from ReykjavÃk (Iceland) on 2005-09-23 13:25 [#01731787]
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"what music do I like, what music do i" hate, what do I think about monoid..."
so you're saying if i give my opinion on something, whatever it might be, i am talking about myself? that doesn't sound right now does it?
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Sido Dyas
from a computer on 2005-09-23 13:27 [#01731790]
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Monoid Monoid... sigh...i have run out of insults.
Whinyest fucker on earth. You should be in Guiness.
Nope one left. =)
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xceque
on 2005-09-23 13:28 [#01731791]
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monoid has at least achieved something. he seems to be the only person who can provoke hanal into saying anything even a bit offensive about someone :)
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J198
from Maastricht (Netherlands, The) on 2005-09-23 13:30 [#01731792]
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so, monoid, any cool techno parties this weekend?
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AlbertoBalsalm
from ReykjavÃk (Iceland) on 2005-09-23 13:32 [#01731793]
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hitler achieved genocide. bravo for him! :)
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plaidzebra
from so long, xlt on 2005-09-23 13:50 [#01731808]
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not surprisingly, a telegraphic messageboard style makes it difficult to communicate some ideas.
but i do mean that when you type on a messageboard you're essentially taking the opportunity to talk about yourself. after all, you're not going to talk about anything you're not interested in, are you? and the fact is, you're most interested in yourself, and the evidence is your compulsion to share what *you* think. when you talk about an "object" and provide what you think, you may believe that you are talking about the "object," but you are talking about yourself, eg your reactions, your impressions, your associations, your feelings. when you talk about an "object", you're talking about "albertobalsalm and an object." there are of course extensive social rules about how frequently one can talk about "albertobalsalm" without also incorporating some ostensibly external object or subject before "genericxltronicuser#1" steps in to slap you on the wrist and wants to talk about an "object and genericxltronicuser#1."
i'm not excluding myself from these observations, btw. it just seems hypocritical to chide someone on a message board for talking about themselves too much. we're all playing the same game, but in the end there's only one game, and only one player.
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Monoid
from one source all things depend on 2005-09-23 13:54 [#01731813]
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I like music. Have you heard about the band autechre? I like them, because I like electronic music. DO you like eectronic music as much as I do?
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tridenti
from Milano (Italy) on 2005-09-23 13:55 [#01731814]
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Welcome on the board
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Monoid
from one source all things depend on 2005-09-23 13:55 [#01731817]
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I like you, and I like this board
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Monoid
from one source all things depend on 2005-09-23 13:57 [#01731818]
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A sentence is always constructed like this Subject Object Verb.
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plaidzebra
from so long, xlt on 2005-09-23 13:59 [#01731819]
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that reminds me of an amusing anecdote that i found amusing.
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oyvinto
on 2005-09-23 16:27 [#01731948]
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ok
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CS2x
from London (United Kingdom) on 2005-09-23 17:11 [#01731982]
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I'd say making thread after thread focusing on yourself is a different matter to simply sharing your opinions on music. ;-)
Monoid-simple solution: don't focus on yourself. Try helping other people. Trust me; all these things will dissappear once a crisis turns up where you really need to be there for someone else. You'll lack back on these "issues" and see them as smoke and mirrors-as a result of constant negative thoughts that can often be destroyed through distractions and actually doing something to make a positive difference to those around you.
That's just talking through personal experience, and may not apply to anyone else. Also, you may just be taking the piss/having a laugh...(if you are not, i apoligize.)
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