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1.Are there any reasons still to be a marxist today? 2.Whats the diffrence between Marxism/Stalinism/Leninism |
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*Posts canadian national flag "Canada is now the first country to venture into this unexplored territory." |
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boom |
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Huh? |
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Sorry. That should have read; BOOM |
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fuck off |
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10-4 Fucking off. |
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why ask an idm board, why not just read up on the subject, or even read on wikipedia about it.. |
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marx tongue in aspic |
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FUCK COMMUNISM |
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I really hope he doesn't try to do his homework with these answers. |
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1.Were there ever any reasons to be a marxist? 2. Who cares what the diffrence between Marxism/Stalinism/Leninism is? It all degenerates into state sponsored capitalism sooner or later. Sits back and awaits flaming. |
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According to some marxists, the communist ideas brought by the Russian Revolution weren't communist at all. At least the end result wasn't communism. The difference between Marxism and Leninism is that Marx believed the developments that lead to communism take a long period of time, while Lenin saw no need and just took direct action to speed these things up. That's the idealogical difference. Marxists would say there is a big difference in what Marx had in mind and what resulted in communist Russia, that communist Russia was just a front for a dictatorship. Stalin didn't have much ideology as far as I know. |
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Lets not forget the genocide. |
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even a perfect communist society would be morally bankrupt if you have any respect for the "individual" as a concept |
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Bang on the money. Even if it worked (which it wouldn't), would you want to exist without a sense of self? |
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look up all these terms at www.wikipedia.org wikipedia is one of humanities most beautiful achievements. |
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For all it's flaws, capitalism is the better system. Capitalist societies are the most tolerant, have the most technological progress and the best art/music/literature/etc. |
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"oh, i'm smart... i'll look in this thread." |
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I'm going to add the suffix "Smart people come here..." to all my threads in future, to keep the idiots out. |
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I'm going to add the suffix "idiots only" to all my threads. In other words, I won't exclude anybody at all. |
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Economic Left/Right: 0.63 Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: 2.21 The results of the test are fairly accurate: I'm reasonably moderate with slight authoritarian/conservative leaning and the stats show that. The reason a lot of people here perceive me as very conservative is simply the general bias towards the left and liberality here (although it seems to of lessened the past couple of years, I still they're the most prevalent leanings on the board) making me seem comparatively right wing. It's all relative, innit? |
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hey man, email me [ epohs@blurryphoto.com ]. i can't get to gmail at work. |
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My politicalcompass.org result: Economic Left/Right: 8.13 Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: 1.18 |
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Economic Left/Right: -2.63 Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -5.08 |
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give a hoot... read a book. |
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marxism/stalinism/leninism? better dead than red |
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Iiiiii could be anywhere... Take a look, it's in a book, it's reading Rainbowwwwww! |
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Pyramid of communist system: Replace top five tiers with government officials, with dictator at the top. |
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i'm not a communist. i'm not arguing with you. |
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Um, I suppose I'm arguing with whoever made the poster. |
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i want to know why you think that if you simply replace the top tiers with something else it would make the whole picture fine? |
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or rather, that one thing would be worse than the other... |
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I dunno, living standards in capitalist countries are generally higher than in communist countries. I suppose the "we eat for you" tier (The middle classes) is bigger. |
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I didnt read all that mumbo jumbo i just took the quiz. Economic Left/Right: -4.38 Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -0.46 what does this mean |
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it means you're slightly pinko, but not noose material..... yet! |
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i found Monoid's last thread-taking the piss out of people for praying to a god during the hurricane-completely tasteless and out of touch. People have lost everything, and you complain about them praying to a fucking god? |
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This board is dominantly athiest and or is far removed from Christian beliefs. Dont let it get you down :) I thought of emailing you yesterday to see how everything was but i lost your email. |
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ahahaah! Ima commie? I always figured i was republican i guess. i guess i dont really know anything. i hate politics but i love people! <3 |
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Heh. I don't mind the disbelief in God so much as the response to the tragedy. Sorry Monoid, I'm probably just overeacting. :( |
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That is the responce his threads require ;) |
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Thanks for mentioning the emails anyway, there's a lot to tell. Lots of good news. :-) |
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Awesome! Email me! |
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Because a capitalistic society is fairly upfront about the way that it is similar to that poster, whereas in the example swears gives (the same situation in a communist), it smacks of hypocrisy because they claim that they're completely different and such a tiered system doesn't exist. |
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i'm kind of surprised that no one is willing to advocate for the left. i wouldn't call myself a communist, but it isn't at all obvious to me that it's a worse system than capitalism. particularly since everyone wants to latch on to the in practice tangent... well okay, yes there was mad genocide in the Soviet Union, but tell the people in third world countries how great it is to be an unwilling participant in what is more or less a global capitalist system. i agree that Marx doesn't leave enough space for the individual, and i find his stringent aspirituality rather repugnant (and quite possibly the central flaw of his works), but, again, hyper-individualism in practice has lead to a lot of pretty shitty things. i don't really want to advocate either way, i just don't think it's quite so open and shut. maybe we could get the opinions from some people who aren't sitting in front of a personal computer. i know it sounds a bit provocative and all, but it's true. PS- i do not plan on sticking around to see this argument through, i'm not sure how i let this post balloon so much. |
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one last thing: it would be interesting to see how a communistic society would pan out if it wasn't constantly at loggerheads (one way or another) with Capitalism's major proponents (ie: the USA) |
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But capitalism won't work in the long-term either..... for one thing, it's environmentally unsustainable. I think we'll see that for ourselves over the next few decades. Once the environment's fucked, the system's fucked. And the system fucks the environment..... so, we're fucked. How eloquently put. Capitalism also creates a culture of inequality, and even in the most "developed" countries, the rich appear to get richer whilst the poor get poorer. This creates resentment, hatred and ultimately IMO would destroy society itself. But I think the environment will do that job first. |
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Economic Left/Right: -8.13 Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -6.15 |
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