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Ophecks
from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2005-09-14 11:52 [#01723033]
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Famitsu scans
The only game that really matters, all upcoming video games will be defined by how favorably they compare to MGS4, if they compare favorably at all. LOL at Snake, I knew he was going to be older but wow. He's approaching Sean Connery levels, which of course Big Boss' look was initially based on. Too bad his formerly uber-handsome looks won't be gracing the cut-scenes anymore.
No real gameplay shots, but as we know, MGS excels at more than just the technical or even the gameplay aspects. Cool ideas hinted at here but more questions than answers. Looks like there's a whole army of Metal Gears.
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aphextriplet
from your mothers bedroom (United Kingdom) on 2005-09-14 11:55 [#01723035]
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what was that?
oh... its just a box...
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2005-09-14 12:04 [#01723045]
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WORD!
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virginpusher
from County Clare on 2005-09-14 12:09 [#01723049]
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Starring Kris Kristofferson as snake
Cool find ophie! Is this for ps3?
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gl0tch
from www.gl0tch.com   on 2005-09-14 12:10 [#01723050]
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*shits pants at anything having to do with new MG*
BUT........
That thread was funny. Some really disappointed fans there. I have to agree with some of them though - Playing an old geezer version of Snake might be kinda retarded. Also, I'm not necessarily in the mood to run out and get a new system just to play that game. (though I probably will).
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Ophecks
from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2005-09-14 12:15 [#01723054]
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Starring Kris Kristofferson as snake
HA! So true!
Glotch- nah, playing as old Snake will not be retarded, these guys are just reactionary dorks that are used to controlling boring un-old characters. This can't be anything but awesome. Controlling a Kris Kristofferson-facsimile is going to be fun no matter how you slice it. Metal Gear fans in general are passionate and stubborn and hard to please and they'll warm up to the idea later.
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staz
on 2005-09-14 12:18 [#01723058]
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Snake's look is hilarious.
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Ophecks
from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2005-09-14 12:21 [#01723062]
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Actually this kind of reminds me of Frank Miller's The Dark Knight Returns, with an old, creaky Batman. That was awesome. They can use this age thing.
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gl0tch
from www.gl0tch.com   on 2005-09-14 12:28 [#01723064]
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yeah, good call on that one.
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aphextriplet
from your mothers bedroom (United Kingdom) on 2005-09-14 12:38 [#01723069]
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i'd laugh if he needed a wheelchair as the game progressed, and needed to take 61 pills each morning to keep going.
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2005-09-14 12:41 [#01723070]
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he'll forget what he's supposed to do mid-game and wander off into a random direction.
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aphextriplet
from your mothers bedroom (United Kingdom) on 2005-09-14 12:44 [#01723072]
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every now and then he'll piss himself and complain at how cold it is on the desert missions.
man, i think i need to write a game...
"streets of age"
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virginpusher
from County Clare on 2005-09-14 13:32 [#01723095]
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I thought the concept was great. Seriously think of what could be done with the story line with an older wiser snake. One who has been through it all and seen alot.
It gives alot of oppurtunity in the storyline. You could really take it anywhere. It is good to see progression through videogames and i think this is the first series where we witness an evolutionary change in the character.
Breaking ground left and right. I think that this is one of the smartest moves in videogame history ever. Of course many underage gamers will disagree but then again they are kids. I welcome this as a small child welcomes a story before bed time. The content is not held as high as having a brandnew story when you are all tucked in.
:)
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2005-09-14 13:35 [#01723098]
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actually, don't most small children like to hear the stories they already know, again and again?
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2005-09-14 13:35 [#01723100]
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I think it'll be lovely.. provided hideo taught his successors well...
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virginpusher
from County Clare on 2005-09-14 13:42 [#01723106]
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Not unless they want their skulls kicked into a wall by a size 13 steel toe catapillar boot.
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tridenti
from Milano (Italy) on 2005-09-14 13:55 [#01723114]
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Great scans! Thanks!
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uzim
on 2005-09-14 14:34 [#01723151]
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nice... : ) thanks!
i hope we will learn more about the plot... and...
hey, a sudden thought: if Snake is that old (well, supposing it is Solid Snake of course), is Ocelot dead?! (or maybe a ghost... or...)
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uzim
on 2005-09-14 14:36 [#01723153]
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*by plot, i meant the one continuing at the end of MGS2. i hope it will be the follow-up.
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2005-09-14 14:55 [#01723164]
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ocelot just LOOKS really old while he's only 12.. either that, or you face his clone.
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uzim
on 2005-09-14 15:02 [#01723170]
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if he was only 12 in MGS2 then how old was he in MGS3?! : )
-10 or something?
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Exaph
from United Kingdom on 2005-09-14 16:13 [#01723258]
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Are those graphics for real? I'm seriously impressed.. what platform are those shots taken from?
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2005-09-14 16:39 [#01723282]
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infant.. terrible...
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CS2x
from London (United Kingdom) on 2005-09-14 17:17 [#01723308]
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If MGS1, 2 and 3 are anything to go by, this could be absolutely amazing. Just think of the detail the world will have, the beauty the cut-scenes will contatin, the possibilities in the gameplay...
hmmm.
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Ophecks
from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2005-09-14 23:13 [#01723443]
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Agreed, it's a great concept. I love what they've done with Snake, they've even turned flaky concepts like clones and the adventures of the fathers of said clones into fabulous games and bodacious stories. I can't wait to see where they go with this. And with the character himself, I wonder about the circumstances regarding his participation in... whatever it is that's going on in MGS4. Maybe he's forced into it literally, maybe he feels a duty or responsibility to get back in the fold (maybe to help Raiden or Olga's son or whoever), maybe he's having a late-midlife crisis and wants some action, maybe some revenge, etc... lots of possibilities. Lots of enemies still alive and loose ends.
(it's a credit to MGS that, during this nex-gen hype up period, people aren't talking about its graphics or its physics or the minimum system requirements, they're talking about the characters and story and the actual gaming universe Kojima's crafted... with every other game, this stuff gets ignored during the hype-up)
The IGN boards have been having lots of fun with this-
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Ophecks
from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2005-09-14 23:17 [#01723446]
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It's for PS3, that thing is a beast. The graphics are going to be beyond Godly, technically and artistically. And so is the music if they're still using Norihiko Hibino and Harry Gregson Williams.
David Hayter should sound gruffer than ever.
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Exaph
from United Kingdom on 2005-09-15 01:56 [#01723475]
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Thanks, may get a black PS3 for this alone.
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Ophecks
from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2005-09-16 01:12 [#01724658]
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First trailor
Kind of uneventful but very pretty and questionful, it just gives a glimpse of the warzone setting and shows off Geriatric Snake, who is completely badass. The way he loads the guns is saucy.
I got a Terminator-vibe, as in the future, with Kyle Reese and Skynet and the killing and bedlam and fracas and whooha. Can't wait to find out what the fuck happened.
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tridenti
from Milano (Italy) on 2005-09-16 10:17 [#01725001]
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Oh shit, that trailer is simply wonderful, the graphics looks like excellent but also the game play, totally different.
That game must be super. thanks for posting it.
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tridenti
from Milano (Italy) on 2005-09-16 10:31 [#01725008]
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There will be more technology. The old cameras spies easy to destroy are changed.
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tridenti
from Milano (Italy) on 2005-09-16 10:36 [#01725009]
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gl0tch
from www.gl0tch.com   on 2005-09-16 10:36 [#01725011]
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*jizzes*
Anyone know when this is supposed to be released? And PS3 for that matter?
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OK
on 2005-09-16 10:46 [#01725016]
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wasn't mgs4 supossed to follow up where mgs2 left off. it that were the case the old guy would be big boss not solid snake
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Ophecks
from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2005-09-16 10:59 [#01725027]
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For those that don't know, that little guy is Metal Gear MK-II from Hideo Kojima's ''Snatcher'' for Sega-CD.
Glotch- this isn't going to be released for a while... dunno when but might be 2007. :_-(
OK- Big Boss is long dead by the time MGS2 ended. Snake killed Big Boss with a flamethrower around the time of Metal Gear 2- Solid Snake. But yeah, maybe this isn't Snake... you never know with Hideo.
There have been shots of Snake with full beard (mostly in the art) and with no facial hair. Maybe the game skips around time-periods and even characters... I dunno.
MG MKII VVV
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tridenti
from Milano (Italy) on 2005-09-16 11:12 [#01725042]
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Ok.
I'm glad anyway that Otacon is back in some way, because I found him nice in the first episode.
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CS2x
from London (United Kingdom) on 2005-09-16 11:50 [#01725098]
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Brilliant trailer. Who did the music? It sounded a lot like the dark ambient artist, Lustmord.
In a way, I wish I didn't read up on this and watch the trailer, as it makes the current crop of games look utterly pointless. I can't wait. :-)
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OK
on 2005-09-16 15:39 [#01725395]
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yeah well ok how many guys have you 'killed' in the mgs series that turned out to be not dead. Also, in the artwork for MGS4 , besides a full beard snake there's what looks like big boss (second from right to left in the link, also notice that hi has a moustache) so it's likely that big boss will make an appearance in this one.
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Ophecks
from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2005-09-16 16:16 [#01725440]
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True, but ''officially'', Big Boss is dead and was dead during MGS2. I must be misunderstanding you, I don't see why this old guy would be Big Boss, he didn't factor into MGS2 at all, directly.
Big Boss was about 30 in MGS3... that was in 1964... so to be in MGS4, he'd have to be like, I dunno, 100? This can't be him, especially since Otacon is referring to him as Snake. There'd be no reason to refer to Big Boss as ''Snake'' 50 years after his mission as ''Naked Snake'', and there'd be no reason for Otacon to chat with Big Boss as if he was Solid Snake. But who the fuck knows?
(but maybe it IS Big Boss, and he's injecting that shit into his neck to keep him alive, who the fuck knows?)
Personally I don't think Big Boss is going to be in this game, except... as a dead guy. He's looking decidedly corpse-ish in that art. He'll factor in more directly than in MGS2 but I don't expect to control him or to fight him in a battle or something. That would be creepy. But who the fuck knows?
The moral of the post is, who the fuck knows?
There's a higher-res version of the trailer out now, maybe I'll post it later if I find a good mirror.
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gl0tch
from www.gl0tch.com   on 2005-09-16 16:30 [#01725458]
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reading from Gamespot, they commented on how Otacon didnt seem like he aged much, but Snake did. They mentioned that the genetic experiments might have caught up with Snake (causing him to age, thereby forcing him to use that elixir shits).
But I agree, who the fuck knows?!? I see MGS4 combining the paranoia and mind fuckery of MGS2 with the intense action and crossover plots of 3 (minus the forests and cheesedick music during the last battle).
Wait a sec! Was the main character "Snake" in 3, the same main character "Snake" in 2? Fuck, I'm confused. If I remember correctly MGS3 Snake becomes Big Boss and is cloned into 2 dudes, one of which becomes the main character of MGS2 and purportedly MGS4. Is that correct?
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Ophecks
from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2005-09-16 16:40 [#01725467]
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Yep, one of the drawbacks of being a clone is fucked up genetics... Snake is aging faster than a normal human. So even though this might be, say, 10 years after the Big Shell Incident (just guessing), he looks like he's 20 years older.
(also, maybe the elixir has something to do with FoxDie, remember that? It killed Liquid at the end of MGS1 (we think), but Solid is somehow still going...)
You remember correctly, MGS3 ''Snake'', the guy you control, is Big Boss. And then he's cloned into-
Liduid Snake Solid Snake Solidus Snake
...among others, maybe. Who the fuck knows?
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gl0tch
from www.gl0tch.com   on 2005-09-16 21:01 [#01725654]
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So here's a poll:
What's going to come out first?
A) New Aphex Twin LP B) New Autechre C) MGS4
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OK
on 2005-09-17 14:20 [#01726221]
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yeah I agree too.. who the fuck knows.
it all hypes the game. lets just hope it's as good as all the others.
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Ophecks
from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2005-09-17 17:47 [#01726371]
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Much cleaner version of the trailer, if you don't mind the heads in the way. I've watched the trailer a bunch of times, I don't get laid anymore.
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