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what electronic music was there before kraftwerk. ive always thought they were the first. am i wrong? |
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John Cage and many more people |
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Same doubts |
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Vangelis |
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but Kraftwerk is for babies, right? |
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Stockhausen was one of the first wave i think. eole always forget about the bbc radiohinic workshope too! <3 |
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not entirely, they started both in 1970 |
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Mostly academics. Cause the equipment was so expensive. Dockstader was the man, though. Tape loop master. ' |
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aphex twin. |
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haha, sweet! lots of answers : ) whats good to check out. whats really old, who was first? ... who was good? : ) |
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Tape music and musique concrete. They weren't very different from electronic music in the terms of goals. The equipment was different. Much of the work of early composers from let's say 50's isnn't much different from contemporary experiments. Pierre Schaeffer Pierre Henry Herbert Eimert Karlheinz Stockhausen John Cage Harry Partch Gordon Mumma Robert Ashley Joji Yuasa Toru Takemitsu (find his Water Music and pass it to me) ...and many many more, mostly academics. Don't quote me on the names, because this is not my choice. Yesterday I was reading about it in a fancy magazine. I only heard Stockhausen, Cage, Takemitsu and these guys from Paris like Henri Chopin, who specialised in human voice transformations. Find Chopin's works, they are extremely entartaining. |
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More Names: Fritz Winckel Boris Blacher Hermann Blacher Luciano Berio Bruno Maderna In my opinion most of these people's work are experiments for their own sake, no musical qualities, just showing new horizons. As one contemporaty academic composer said in an interview: "In my composition I used a very interesting effect of DELAY." |
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Bruce Haack was one of the first! if not THE first! |
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yeah, definitely check out music concrete artists, arne nordheim and stockhousen! |
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Everybody listed above, plus guys like Edgard Varese, Morton Subotnick and hey look . A lot of it isn't all that striking anymore except in context, but it's all worth hearing. |
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Kid Baltan |
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for the Dick Raaijmakers from the Philips reasearch labs made electronic music from 1956-1963 yes: "Uit arremoede bedacht Raaijmakers een pseudoniem: Kid Baltan, de omkering van de bijnaam die hij in het laboratorium had gekregen: NatLab Dick" check 'Song of the Second Moon' |
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tangerine dream ? |
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raymond scott |
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klaus schulze? |
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Sun Ra! |
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Experimental electronc music has a history going back to the 1920s For pre-1970 electronic music with a more melodic/popular-oriented style, you should check out the aforementioned Tom Dissevelt/Kid Baltan (Song Of The Second Moon), Bruce Haack (Electric Lucifer), The White Noise (An Electric Storm), Raymond Scott (Soothing Sounds For Baby), Dick Hyman (Electric Eclectics), Wendy Carlos (Switched-On Bach) and the early work of the BBC Radiophonic Workshop (especially Delia Derbyshire and Daphne Oram). I've undoubtedly forgotten many other names. |
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Luciano Berio Ilhan Mimaroglu They're my favourite musique concrete artists. |
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György Ligeti and Iannis Xenakis have not been mentioned in this thread?!1 |
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Nobody mentioned the italian Futurists, painters and composers and musicmachines counstructors leaded by Luigi Russollo, who were very active in different ways back in 10s and 20s, as you can see if you follow the first of bogala's links. They werent playing electronic istruments, but had strongly influenced all of the first electronic musicians, which qrdl so thoroughly mentioned. One who wants to be more informed about this topic must listen to the Also, Erkki Kurenniemi is the man some of you want to know about. He actually designed the first digital music instrument, the DIMI synthesizer. And played it, of course. He had a legendary concert with both Mika Vainio and Ilpo Vaisanen of Pan Sonic and Carl Michael von Hausswolf back in 2001; they all played his instruments, each piece of equipment around 30 years old. |
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most of the big'uns have been mentioned already... just wanted to add Alvin Lucier, David Behrman, Luc Ferrari, and Eliane Radigue... but i mean really there are tonnes and tonnes, and contrary to what some have said in this thread, a lot of this stuff is really fucking brilliant. some of Iannis Xenakis' electronic music, for example, is absolutely mind-melting. and even people like Henry and Schaeffer, who are basically credited as the inventors of concrete, did some stuff that was brilliant musically as much as it was brilliant technically. just my two cents. |
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