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recommend some good stuuf please, cheers! any genre as long as it's good :) |
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excepter |
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well, it's splendid stuff, but i was thinking something a bit more cacophonic preferably. btw, the last excepter release was super fantastic! |
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this is intriguing. i also like hearing cacophony in music... well, i'd say the ultimate in cacophonic music would have to be any atonal or noise music... |
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Hijokaiden- Tapes (my fav'rit) Winterkalte- Drum 'n Noise (self explanatory, no? Yes?) Sutcliffe Jugend- When Pornography is No Longer Enough/Victimm as Beauty (murder-centric themes) Prurient- Troubled Sleep Roger Nichols and the Small Circle of Friends- Don't Take Your Time (the aural equivalent of Satan, listen at your own risk, the brown note is said to be hidden amongst the chaos) |
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Vidrio - Glass Slavery 12" |
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track 5 on that cd-r I sent you, fnar fnar.. :P |
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I have no idea where that "fnar fnar" came from. |
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very good :) although i like the cacophony on tracks 7 and 12 even better! ophecks, you should definitely do something with your music knowledge! always get tons of awesome recommendations from you, no matter how obscure thing i ask for :) chambre, will look for that as well! cheers! |
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Cold Bleak Heat - It's Magnificent, But It Isn't War, maybe It's free jazz, it's new and it's good. |
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the words "free jazz" just made me throw up a little in my mouth. I haven't heard the music, mind. |
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Well it's very intense. What's wrong with free jazz? |
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oh it happened again. I'm going to make some free rock now and perhaps then some free electro. |
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IT'S JUST A NAME, MAN, GET OVER IT GOD DAMN IT |
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Peter Brotzmann is a form of free jazz and I'd say Machine Gun is as cacophonic as anything listed here. Free jazz 4 the win! |
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That was a failure of a sentence. Peter Brotzmann is not a form of free jazz, he's a man. pointstillstands |
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ha ha! :D words can be used very disgustingly, though. |
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welllll, to me all free jazz sounds sort of cacophonic..that's why i like it so much i suppose :) i'll check out all the recommendations i can find! |
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something atonal (?) would be greatly appreciated as well..something alike those bells on the start of xmd5a..oh yes! |
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Are Panasonic still around? They used to be on Mute. Try them. |
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it's pan sonic, isn't it? saw them live earlier this year..like them a lot, any anything vainio is involved with is usually great. don't find it all that cacophonic tho.. |
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i didn't know Excepter at all but i just checked two sound samples and this sounds, like, good. thanks! ...the most cacophonic stuff i know that comes to my mind include Boredoms ("Pop Tatari" is great), Ruins (but that's too cacophonic to my taste), Captain Beefheart (obviously)... Mr Bungle too... but you already know them all. ' _' (and i only really like Boredoms and Mr Bungle from these.) |
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If your experience of free jazz is Peter Brotzmann then you're bound to think it's cacophonic. These cd's are more restrained: Bill Dixon - Vade Mecum Phil Minton & Roger Turner - Dada Da Assif Tsahar, Mat Maneri & Jim Black - Jam |
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I'm sharing the Cold Bleak Heat album if you still want it, Goran. |
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is Goran tolstoyed's name? enchanté. : ) |
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Ok how about some . Fucking mental. |
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much better :) uzim, pleased to meet you :) darius, very interested :) :)) |
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Let me know how you get on. For me Hat and Beard, the opener, is my unrivalled favorite. |
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will do, although im not at home atm, and i won't have any time in the next couple of days..there was a thread about that album somewhere thoough, and i posted my opinion on it there i think :) i remember quite a number of people think highly of it! |
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Silly but true, because of his name, here's how I picture Tolstoyed- |
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True, I didn't mean to imply free jazz was just noise. Even NOISE music doesn't have to be cacaphonic. |
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that's visnjic though, not all of us look like that :) and yes, i don't find noise music cacophonic. |
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it's possible to have noise music that isn't cacophonic, but most of it surely is. i can't think of any non-cacophonic noise music - can you think of an example? |
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i must think the other cacophony then :) |
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cacophony is dissonance, especially loud dissonance... what did you mean? |
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dissonance. but when i say noise, im thinking white noise..eh, just not my idea of cacophonic i suppose :) something without a form in a way..dunno..im wrong i guess. |
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I'll track down some "klangflatemusikk" for you.. don't know how to translate it, but you may like it. |
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oh, well, pure white noise isn't too cacophonic, you're right about that... :) i thought ophecks was referring to noise music, which is what i was talking about. |
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Nothing specific comes to mind, but I know there are a few Coil and Hafler Trio tracks that would do good. I'll look later to recommend. |
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Depends on how you define noise music, really, and even cacaphony. I don't limit it to just ''Merzbow'' dissonance and madness. I consider artists like Asmorod, November Novelet, Dagda Mor to have really utilized noise in their music, that's good enough for me. A different, more structured use of noise but I wouldn't call it ambient AND I don't want to bother labelling it specifically. I'm not a fan of concrete genres... this is noise, this isn't... that's pointless, I hate arguments like that. I just use genres or labels or whatever to point the general direction. If someone was listening to Merzbow and wanted some stuff like it, you wouldn't have to give them something exactly like Merzbow to please them. Not everything I listed up there uses ''dissonance'' (although it's there). |
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what are you talking about? the word cacophony is not open for interpretation. it has a definition. "noise music" is a loose term and i didn't argue with you about it - i agree, there's all sorts of styles and degrees. |
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Dissonance, dischordance, whatever, it doesn't really matter what the strict definition of it is. I wasn't arguing what cacophony is, disregard the arbitrary ''definition'' quip, all I meant to get at is that there's a wide variety of music out there that fits this bill, and that I disagree that ''most noise music is cacophonic'' (OMG I've been misspelling it so long). But again it depends on how you define ''noise music'', I guess. I don't think it goes hand in hand with cacophony at all. |
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well, then i should clarify that when i said noise music, i was referring to the genre noise music (the post-industrial stuff), which includes artists like merzbow, masonna, kk null, etc. i'm well aware that there is music that is noisy or contains elements of noise, but i also wouldn't refer to that music as "noise music". |
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Cool. I know that's what you're referring to and that's the first thing I think of when I think ''noise music'' actually, but I don't bother recognizing it as an official thing or anything, so when someone says they want noise music, I don't think ''give them Masonna''. Same thing with cacophony, I know there's a dictionary definition, but it means different things to different people. Whether or not it really is cacophony or not. Know what I mean? ''i must think the other cacophony then :)'' |
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1996: derek bailey, pat metheny, gregg bendian, paul vertico - the sign of 4 This is almost total cacophony spanning 3 CDs. My friend is a Methany freak and he gave me this box, makes you think. You may also want Nurse With Wound - Thunder Perfect Mind, first track, though this one is quite organised |
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Goran hit me up for some Luasa Raelon, specifically the album Become the Stalking Horse of Your Fears, and also maybe Gora by Mattin. |
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klangflatemusikk.. still don't know what to translate it as. by Krzysztov Penderecki... sample if you scroll down. I could find some more if this is what you mean... the threnody track is mainly the example... stockhausen and reich have done this type of music too, but I can't ever remember names of tracks and whatever... |
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Le Tigre is awesome femrock.... |
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