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i know breakcore is a bit of a sensitive subject round here but some people will appreciate this rather interesting article |
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i just skimmed it - looks very pretentious. maybe to some people it will be very interesting, so it is a good link and a good thread. thanks! |
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seems very fucking elitist. i can't stand "scenesters" like that; jesus christ, shit changes, adjust to it instead of bitching. although, i tend to suffer from this at times, so i guess i'm a hypocrite! |
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btw, ignoring the slant, it is an interesting read, cheers. |
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aye i agree tis very OMG BREAKCORE SOD THE REST but still interesting as you said |
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The Future of Breakcore |
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i was hoping this article was going to start with "once upon a time..." |
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I do agree with a lot of what it says, eletism aside the content itself is fiarly accurate, his opinions about labels and the reasons for their action are pure speculation though, and in my opinion , wrong. |
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i can safely say that i will never read this article in my entire life |
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I'm going to stab you only because you said that just to prove you wrong. *stabs horsefactory in the nozzle that squirts the manes on the horses* |
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None of you understand the importance of breakcore in the grand scheme of the universe. |
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Isn't this article by the guy who posted that Autechre article several months ago and was subsequently chased off the board? |
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A taste of things to come... |
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ah ha ha... happy hardcore... Those words look like they're really etched.. I can't wait until w M w is on one of those. |
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''Obviously the traditional "IDM" scene was in a crisis'' |
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One of the factors of any music that seems to invalidate it, is when people start to wax intelectual, and justify it. Unfortunately, IDM has set itself up for this from day one. Its like the arguments were already written before the music, making the music merely self serving in nature, and a statement for the argument, as opposed to the argument being a statement for the music. Its like a lot of these people make this kind of music without a passion or reason for it, aside from the fact that it is just a statement, and that makes it shallow in my opinion. Its just as bad as making music only for money. The irony, here, is people who make music for the money, are honest about their motivations, and the people who make music to prove a point usually aren't. |
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the word "teknival" made me fall of my chair laughing. |
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Breakcore is mad gay. It just sounds like the stuff Skint used to release in '97-98, so who gives a fuck. I remember thinking breakbeats had gotten tired already in '99. |
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i <3 breakcore |
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That article, if you call it that is full of grade A bullshit. |
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not my thing breakcore..kinda boring..i could go to an excellent breakcore party this saturday but i think i'll pass.. Jason Forrest aka. Donna Summer (Cock Rock Disco / USA) Dan Doormouse (Addict, Planet-Mu / USA) Monster Zoku Onsomb! (Death$ucker / AUS) Electric Kettle (Peace Off, Combine / F) C.Fringeli (Praxis, Subversion / CH) Hecate (Zhark, Hymen / CH) Parasite (Death$ucker / UK) Rotator (Peace Off / F) |
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I appreciate what he is getting at but there is no objectivity in the writing at all. He is just a breakcore apple polisher. |
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Jason Forrest has done some nice stuff. I think he's at his best when kind of lets the breakcore go and goes beyond it, but that could just be because I find breakcore really boring. :) |
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do people think there is alot of bad blood between breakcore fans and IDM fans? it kinda seems like the dislike u see between trance and bass headz pretty funny really |
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i think there is alot of BORING breakcore but there is some great stuff aswell even afx has been labelled as breakcore in the past |
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he's alright..saw him live not too long ago..entertainer but lacks on the music part. dan dormoouse is much the same, i saw him in his underwear so i had enough of him for a while as well. im always in for the music and their stuff just isn't my idea of good music. ofcourse they have their moments but overal it's a bit weak. |
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overhere that is one and the same thing really. although we usually don't get to see decent idm acts. |
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I don't think there is, really. although I don't see myself as an "IDM fan" at all. it's more that any form of fanboyism in any genre or regarding any artist provokes a negative reaction. |
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With all types of music, i find that i dislike most of it but some of it is good. |
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thats kinda the deal with genres it becaomes a genre cos one artists nails something new and then that is appreciated and drawn upon untill said type of music becomes saturated with similar stuff thus a genre is born theres a shit load of bad breakcore and bad idm and bad anyother genre |
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I don't hate breakcore either, btw. I just would never listen to it. it's the fucked up beat thing that makes me go "yes, yes, very impressive, how do I turn this off?" :) |
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lol i dunno im not sure alot of what i class as breakcore u guys would class aswell |
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Taff: Not having a go, but i did understand the point i made. You just re-iterated my opinion to me. I agree with you. I just don't like that article. It rubbed me up the wrong way. qrter: You kind of hit the nail spot on the head, i think almost exactly the same thing about most of it. The other thing that annoyed me about the article was that he seemed to imply that it is/was the only subversive form of music. Subversion happens on many levels, so i find myself thinking what the hell his point actually is. |
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it was kinda my way of agreeing dude :P |
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Um, ok then! Sorry dude. That stupid article got me hot under the collar! |
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thats quite allright the guy is an elitist fuck but its still interesting read on a side note did anyone ever used to listen to dark hardcore ? was kinda the precursor to drum n bass/jungle tracks like long dark tunnell |
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Yeah, that was origin unknown and the track was called 31 seconds. I used to be a huge fan of early hardcore and stuff. I think that track you are speaking of is actually i quite early jungle track. It has little in common with dark hardcore really. Also a very early example of what jungle would become a track called Ltj bukems Atlantis, which is from 1992. Great track got a lovely feel to it. You should check it out. : ) |
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yer i knew it wasnt quite dark hardcore but tahts where it came from, it wa sthe only one i knew the name of as all the tape si used to ahve had no track listing etc or vinyl was white label do you know anywhere i could find some old dark hardcore id love to reminice i used buy all thouse seduction tapes had an awsome jujmping jack frost one before he want alldnb/jungle was wierd music taste for an 11 year old though hehe |
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Yeah it was, i was in the same place at that age. Erm, let me have a think. I'll get back to you with some names. |
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