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While working on a mixsession in CEP2 everything sounds lovely, but when I save it I always get a fuzz in the right or left speaker (no its not my speakers so thats cancelled out). Even removing hiss or other effects to purify the sound don't always work. I've tried saving in high qual wav (even worse!) 320kbps 44100Hz mp3, and mp3pro/vbr. In short, what would you suggest the best saving properties are? |
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some people who make music recommend making mixdowns in other programs, for example from sonic foundry like, you do wavs of every track in cooledit and then mix them down in another program |
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thanks for you output, but lets discuss cool edit output :) |
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when you get fuzz, is it just fuzz, or do you get ur intended sound as well? |
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intended sound aswell. it usually occurs in my godliest synths. maybe they're just too much for the progs I use. shit.. but thats not whats on the table anymore infact I'm not sure why I even mentioned it. I'd just like to know the best format to save in. |
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ok i suggest you this: 1. mix every track of your session as a single wav file 2. stuff them all in a new session and try to mix them up |
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I've done that for allot of them, even when I save an individual file I still get something that sounds like the soul of a vinyl. Perhaps it's because of my new methods of producing glitch and perserving hiss and noise to get unique odd sounds. But they should still save as they sound. I could be wrong.. |
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ok, i don't know what else to suggest. |
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maybe you've got a trial version of a piece of software, and it puts a hiss on ur tracks until you get the full version? |
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I forget what proggy it is, but there is at least one that does that in demo version. You're not using the Izotope vinyl VST by any chance, are you? |
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soundforge plugins do it, they're the only ones i remember having problems with. |
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its the full version, and no, no vsts of that nature. that scratch only comes when i save as wav. right now im testing out all variations of mp3 formats, some are really good, even cuts out ugly sounds which i once thought were normal and expected. but yeah still got that ugly hiss in the right ear. dont know if its actually termed as hiss though, its definitely something, something I don't want.. only comes in during warm pads.. |
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I know it's almost certainly not this, but you're not putting "high quality interpolation" on, or upping the number of maximum voices, on your synths etc. before rendering to .wav, but turning them off to save CPU at other times? I know sometimes I get stuff that sounds worse when I up the quality that way as it actually shows more of the small imperfections in the sound (although it's seldom bad enough to create a hum like you described). |
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thanks for sharing i was curious about it after reading this thread |
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I am not hearing it. Sounds ok to me. |
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then listen louder I guess. It's there I tell yah, it's gotta be! |
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maybe you blew your speaker? |
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my comp speaker and headphones and stereo and friends stereo and friends computer and friends headphones? |
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i can hear it.... sounds more like dodgy encryption :S |
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encoding, not encryption. |
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why am i not hearing it? |
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in the right speaker, it's very quiet., and not as thick in harmonic content as the word "fuzz" implies. haha, i do talk crap :D |
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is it fixable with cool edit rendering tactics? |
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It's that bloody sound in half my tracks that will get my demo thrown in the trash. |
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I can hear some faint 'noise' in the background and what almost sounds like squeeky tape wheels, so it's probably not just your speakers. |
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gwely, mute all sythns/voices/etc, then export it to mp3 and see if that noise is still there if it's still there, then you know it's the encoding, and nothing within the file. |
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if its not there then it is on export, it must be export problems. mabey not use cool edit anymore? |
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Why do you still use Cooledit while there are many other and better programs to mix with? |
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because that's what he's used to. |
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yeah, I've adapted to this program. Don't care to switch to something else. Theres a way around this. It sounds peachy while in cool edit, so yeah its encoding probs. Perhaps I just overkill my stuff with effects. |
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sorry folks but I gotta revive this thread. same problem, same song. it would seem that no matter what, if im saving a multitrack session, that fuzz i can get rid of for the individual file is still there. this really blows. de-esser was good to me, but not good enough. |
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argh |
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Remember dude? High pass filter, as well as de-esser. |
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Just filter out the highest frequencies. Its a standard tool for removing buzzing noises. Another technique that works, is making a mono mix, then inverting the left channel, and mixing it into the right. What you have left will be only the buzz. Then, copy the buzz, invert it, and then mix it with the right channel, so that the buzz will be removed, without losing qualities of the rest of the sounds. Standard vocal removal technique that can be used to remove other unwanted sounds. |
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Sorry, not making a mono mix, but making a sterio mix with the exact same sounds in both channels. If you problem is with the noise appearing in the right channel only, the inverting technique that I mentioned earlier will work. |
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On a side note, that problem should be happening with cool-edit 2 unless you have corrupted drivers, or your amplifying it too much during the mix. The problem is problem is probly with your soundcard. |
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so, make the sample into a left mix. then center it? |
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actually that sounds like a sure thing, but also a bit strange, wouldnt I lose some of the original stereo effects i added in the first place? |
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it might be stating the obvious a bit, but have you tried Hiss Removal on the highest setting or merely enhancing the sound? It gets rid of background hiss. You could highlight the wave on the side of the speakers which has the problem (left or right) and try that.. not quite sure what you mean by fuzz but that sounds like it.. |
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Well, not make it a left mix, but take the sounds, and just make sure everything in both chanels is identical, in both spatial placement, and amplitude, then mix down. Then, if what you say is true, then the right channel will have a buzz, and the left channel will not. then, as I said, invert the left channel, and mix it with the right. or, follow the following instructions; copy the whole wav, both channels. Then use channel mixer-swap channels, then mix the copied wav into the one you have on screen. I don't want to get into explaining how it works, because I can't think of a simple way of explaining it, even though the idea is quite simple. This technique can also be used to preform a whole array of other things, like vocal removal, isolating the surface noise in records, and noise reduction. |
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Oh yeah, and get a new soundcard. The creative audigy series is crap for professional use, but it is practically noiseless (seeing as instead of actually building a quality card, they just made a mediocre one and built a bunch of high quality filters into it [kind of like using expensive cologne to mask the smell of having not showerd for two days]), so if you only want to throw 70 dollars into upgrading, that might work for you. If I remember correctly, you are just using board sound, so you will see an increase in sound quality, as well as a decrease in latency and noise. |
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its still very strange in a sense, that one time you told me to de-esser, i did and then saved the sample i did it do, everythign sounded perfect. not to mention i didnt even know what i was cleaning up in the multitrack session because everything sounds perfect there. it mostly happens when i render (although in some cases, i do have some bad bits at the end i can hear in the session). now, what was i getting at... i tried doing that channel thing you mentioned, completely changed the sound into something i didnt like. weasel, that would destroy over half the effects i put on the sound in the first place. |
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ah... I see your problem |
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I could send you the folder with all the samples and session file, but I don't know if you're up for that, its asking quite allot and at time i feel like ive been using you for constant music help lol. buddy. im such a newb when it comes to the finer parts of quality production. |
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uMM. Sure. I will see what I can do, although I don't want to spend more than a few minutes with it tonight. |
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I am so releived and relaxed now that i gotta take a dump. thanks for the help. to those who encounter this prob, just invert one of the channels, but not both. weeeeeeeeeee |
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