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exsub
from United Kingdom on 2005-08-30 18:33 [#01710611]
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QRDL
Yeah, scientist also belive the world was formed when a rock hit the earth and span it into orbit, this just so happened to make the days 24 hours long, which gives the whole surface of the earth the same time, perfectly spinning around the sun at which point the moon spins round and compltely covers the earth from the sun perfectly, not to mention other MAJOR coincerdances like other planets lining up perfectly.
Dont you see?.. -- if it wasn't 24 hours which makes up a day, life wouldn't have been able to occur, because it would be unbalanced.
How can you say you belive scinetist when from your personal experince when you know hardly anything about this subject. Your aiming blindingly into something you belive you have no perosnal experiance with.
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exsub
from United Kingdom on 2005-08-30 18:36 [#01710615]
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QRDL I dont mind you belive scientists over me, but atleast gain some knowledge of the topic first - you will be suprised how illogical scientists are on this perticular subject.
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bob
from Nottingham (United Kingdom) on 2005-08-30 18:41 [#01710619]
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i was under the impression that Earth (and all other planets in the solar system for that matter) was formed by left over dust and debris from the big bang (a theory that is now being doubted by many) were compressed together under gravitational force, but there you go.
and the Earth doesn't spin exactly on its axis, hence we get ice ages.
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bob
from Nottingham (United Kingdom) on 2005-08-30 18:42 [#01710621]
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wait a minute, we are supposed to take your word for it? instead of people who know a lot about the subject?
ok.
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Xeron
from London (United Kingdom) on 2005-08-30 18:42 [#01710622]
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if anyone had bothered to read my first post, none of the argument would have occured.
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bob
from Nottingham (United Kingdom) on 2005-08-30 18:43 [#01710623]
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we only have 24 hours in a day because we said so. hours, minutes and seconds are a man-made concept.
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exsub
from United Kingdom on 2005-08-30 18:44 [#01710624]
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bob
well that would be a good logical reason for breeds dying out, which supports my own personal theory to belive that its a cover up ;).
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QRDL
from Poland on 2005-08-30 18:44 [#01710625]
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I completely don't understand most of your first paragraph. About that lining up of planets, I believe Neptune is not lined up with the rest, a that rest is faaar from perfect. Even if it was perfect, just look at the rings around Saturn, it's a common thing. Why? I don't know, I didn't really care about solving those gravitational equations on my uni. I just passed Practical Physics with minimum positive grade.
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bob
from Nottingham (United Kingdom) on 2005-08-30 18:45 [#01710626]
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but new breeds (read species) evolve daily, whilst old species die out on a regular basis too.
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exsub
from United Kingdom on 2005-08-30 18:52 [#01710635]
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QRDL i didn't say all the planets line up, but our planet and the moon are perfectly in orbit giving the chance for life to live.
"I completely don't understand most of your first paragraph."
read it again?.. or if you don't understand it that time, perhaps not comment on it?
bob im not disputing that, but its funny how a whole race can just disapear like that.
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QRDL
from Poland on 2005-08-30 18:57 [#01710643]
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I commented the part I understood.
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bob
from Nottingham (United Kingdom) on 2005-08-30 19:02 [#01710648]
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a whole race doesn't just disappear like that.
examples please?
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QRDL
from Poland on 2005-08-30 19:04 [#01710653]
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And now for my atheistic theory. You say it's strange that such a concidence (of the moon;s rotation axis being perpendicular to the ecliptic) is hard to believe.
Well I say, that if it didn't happen, than you wouldn't be able to have these doubts, would you?
Let's say you have couple of million planets in our Milky Way alone. And this coincidence happens to ten of them (very probable given the fact that they are not axactly perpendicular afaik). And on one of them an intelligent life develops. And an individual has this doubt of yours. How does it look?
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Xeron
from London (United Kingdom) on 2005-08-30 19:05 [#01710654]
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the neptunites, a once peacful race that used to trade candy for chestnuts with us humans ;)
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QRDL
from Poland on 2005-08-30 19:05 [#01710656]
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Well, it isn't axactly atheistic, it's agnostic and rational.
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QRDL
from Poland on 2005-08-30 19:06 [#01710657]
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:D
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Xeron
from London (United Kingdom) on 2005-08-30 19:08 [#01710659]
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you do know how to use the follow-up feature don't you?
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exsub
from United Kingdom on 2005-08-30 19:13 [#01710662]
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Firstly,
"a whole race doesn't just disappear like that.
examples please?"
If you was following the conversation you would know what i was on about.
But as your too lazy to do that, ill say it for you right now. THE EVIDANCE OF THE RACE FROM MONKEYS TO HUMANS. There is no evidance.
"And now for my atheistic theory. You say it's strange that such a concidence (of the moon;s rotation axis being perpendicular to the ecliptic) is hard to believe.
Well I say, that if it didn't happen, than you wouldn't be able to have these doubts, would you?
Let's say you have couple of million planets in our Milky Way alone. And this coincidence happens to ten of them (very
probable given the fact that they are not axactly perpendicular afaik). And on one of them an intelligent life
develops. And an individual has this doubt of yours. How does it look? "
Well, i've thought about this, its possible since its so large -- but i also feel scientists are wrong, or that they are just covering up the truth of what they belive. The majority of people in the world do no belive beings are out there, this is because the higher people ( e.g. scientists ) have not suggested it. And i heavily dislike that, i go by my own knowledge not by what im told.
"you do know how to use the follow-up feature don't you?"
No i don't, feel free to enlighten me of this feature.
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bob
from Nottingham (United Kingdom) on 2005-08-30 19:22 [#01710667]
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humans evolved from an aquatic ape, theres your missing species.
missing link
plenty to read there. loads of links.
but while on the subject, where is the link between reptiles and birds? was this missing breed wiped out?
no.
some evolve, some don't. mutation of genes doesn't happen to all memebers of a species, only select individuals. some mutations are beneficial and are retained, others offer no reproductive/survival benefits and are therefore tossed out of the equation.
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QRDL
from Poland on 2005-08-30 19:24 [#01710669]
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Believe me, scientists are not covering the truth of what they believe. Of course I don't have any proof for that, but I don't think I don't need to provide any, let's behave like adults shall we?
you do know how to use the follow-up feature don't you?
I don't find a need for this feature, I can keep track of thousands od Q&A at a time. Or am I missing the point?
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QRDL
from Poland on 2005-08-30 19:36 [#01710678]
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ok, it's 3:33 here...half of satan...physical labour in the morning.
Goodnight
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EVOL
from a long time ago on 2005-08-30 20:01 [#01710706]
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click the thingy in red...
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mappatazee
from ¨y¨z¨| (Burkina Faso) on 2005-08-30 23:42 [#01710810]
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It's quite established that space is finite but boundless. If you go straight along you come back to where you were.
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penexpers
from Toronto (Canada) on 2005-08-31 06:43 [#01710982]
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i've read that if a human stepped foot on venus, they would be crushed by the gravity and suffocated instantly. Whats left of the body would be disintegrated by the acid in the air.
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Xeron
from London (United Kingdom) on 2005-08-31 08:12 [#01711083]
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you'd be incinerated before you'd even touch the ground, the ground is hotter than the melting point of lead.
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2005-08-31 08:23 [#01711093]
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im sexy
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Xeron
from London (United Kingdom) on 2005-08-31 08:33 [#01711101]
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grrrrrrrr!
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mylittlesister
from ...wherever (United Kingdom) on 2005-08-31 08:50 [#01711115]
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"scientist also belive the world was formed when a rock hit the earth and span it into orbit, this just so happened to make the days 24 hours long"
hahah, that's the funniest thing i've read in a long time! :D
an "hour" is a man-made measure of time. they took the length of time between sun rises and divided it by 24.
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rasec
from mty (Mexico) on 2005-08-31 12:40 [#01711327]
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correction:
scientists believe that the MOON was formed when a "rock" hit the earth...
the world was formed when a rock hit the earth
it doesn't make sense...
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QRDL
from Poland on 2005-08-31 13:15 [#01711353]
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This sentence reminds me of Turkish Star Wars "Dunyayi kurtaran adam" which may the worst movie ever made. Extremely funny.
Anyway, in the beginning of the movie the narrator unrolls the history of the future.
I'll just quote the subs: "Thousands years they lived this way." "Space age had been passed, now began the galaxy age." "Thousands of years passed and earth's planet system..." "...turned into the galaxy system." "Civilizations and history had become past." "Man adopted a simple life as in primitive ages." "And with all their power they initiated..." "...relentless struggle to find immortality." "Earth nations, civilizations, race..." "...and religions became one." "There was only one human life form and tribe..." "...in the galaxy age." "Earth was facing the danger of extinction..." "...as a result of a crazy nuclear armament." "Earth had avoided such dangers a couple of times before;" "...not a single force had been able to destroy the earth." "However, in some cases, earth had been disintegrated into parts."
"Parts which fragmented off the earth had become meteor in space."
"On some planets life was still going on." "However the nuclear war gained momentum." "For the sake of the rulers becoming more powerful..." "...while the beautiful and happy world was madly destroyed..."
"...suddenly Earth came across a mysterious, strong enemy." "Our world, formed into matter from rays and energy..." "...five billion years ago;" "got fragmented into dust by laser rays in the galaxy age.."
"Who was this enemy? From which galaxy was he?" "Humans used one single weapon against this danger." "They started to resist with a shield welded..."
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QRDL
from Poland on 2005-08-31 13:17 [#01711355]
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"...with human brain and willpower." "A coating formed by..." "...compressed human brain molecules protected the Earth." "Earth was turning into dust under every attack..." "...and was hiding behind the protecting shield." "A weapon to breach this shield could only be constructed..."
"...with human brain and will power." "But however strong their weapons," "...the enemies of the earth did not have brains." "The value of the world and the humans in infinity... "...was the greatest weapon." "Not a single human warrior..." "...sent to find this unknown enemy returned." "Human tribes united and tried to find a solution." "The only solution was to find the enemy and fight with it."
"Two strongest and greatest Turkish warriors..." "...and others, sailed into space..." "...and declared war to the unknown enemy." "Some humans did not get involved in this war." "But every human able to combine imagination with reasoning..."
"...was determined to join and win this war."
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penexpers
from Toronto (Canada) on 2005-09-02 04:19 [#01712994]
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Topic shifter: What came first, chicken or egg?
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penexpers
from Toronto (Canada) on 2005-09-02 04:21 [#01712997]
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egg for me
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