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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2005-08-24 09:57 [#01705199]
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I just realized I don`t anymore.. at least not 100% of the time... too often have I seen, smelled, heard and just generally noticed things that aren`t there. It`s not due to any substances either, but I know I have migraines, which often is the cause of these `hallucinations,` so sometimes I just don`t trust what I sense, and have to ask others if it really is there (I just did once more, and it turned out no-one else could smell vanilla). I`m not becoming a skeptic or anything, nor do I ask if you are, but do you feel your senses are reliable, and both in the case of `no` or `yes`: why?
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khonnor
from beanbag village (Malta) on 2005-08-24 10:00 [#01705205]
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mastah: have you gotten your head checked out? Honestly, these types of olfactory hallucinations and migraines can be a warning sign for larger issues...
dont mean to scare ya, just wanted to check.
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dog_belch
from Netherlands, The on 2005-08-24 10:05 [#01705212]
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Khonnor just called you a mental.
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khonnor
from beanbag village (Malta) on 2005-08-24 10:07 [#01705215]
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No I didn't! If you insist, I'm talking about brain cancer/tumors!
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2005-08-24 10:07 [#01705217]
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oh, I haven`t had any sympotms that suggest anything but migraines, and I`ve had migraines my whole life,and generally know how they feel. I think the first post may give the impression I see things all the time, but it`s more whenever I get stressed or have too much sugar, both of which trigger my migraines... oddly enough, I`ve never had it triggered by caffeine, as is normal, but.. yeah, I`m sure it`s nothing more serious than migraines. I also have long periods with nothing migraine-related happening, but I`ve had some stress lately, and sometimes I get weird smells or small blips of things...
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epohs
from )C: on 2005-08-24 10:09 [#01705219]
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Most of the time, yes.
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2005-08-24 10:09 [#01705220]
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in all, it`s enough to make me question the appearances of certain things. smell is the most common, and it doesn`t even have to have the rest of the migraine (the classic pain and vomit) follow it.. with hallucinations, it`s more `the full thing`
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bob
from Nottingham (United Kingdom) on 2005-08-24 10:10 [#01705223]
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have you ever suffered from epilepsy?
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2005-08-24 10:10 [#01705224]
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ok.. what about the times that aren`t `mostof the time?` why don`t you trust them then?
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2005-08-24 10:12 [#01705228]
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no.
fuck, this isn`t supposed to be about me.. I know it`s only migraines, and apart from when I get migraines, I`m ok. thanks for worrying, though, guys. <3!!!
now, do you trust your senses?
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bob
from Nottingham (United Kingdom) on 2005-08-24 10:15 [#01705236]
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my senses tell me that i am completely fucked for cash.
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2005-08-24 10:17 [#01705243]
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are they spider-senses, and do they tingle?
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2005-08-24 10:19 [#01705249]
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these topics never turn out the way they were supposed to.. oh, well.. unban hyakusen, and let`s have a HYAKUSEN XLT RAID!!!!!!!1
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epohs
from )C: on 2005-08-24 10:19 [#01705250]
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like, if i'm inebriated or having a panic attack or something then it's pretty safe to assume that my senses aren't as sharp as they could be.
but, i don't think i'm delusional nor do i suffer from hallucinations (that i know of), so to trust my senses seems to be pretty logical. they seem to approximate reality rather well so far... i mean, they seem to be correct more than they're wrong anyhow.
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2005-08-24 10:22 [#01705253]
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yeah, you probably don`t have any reasons to distrust them, which is good. and I can assure you that if you meant to write
like, if i'm inebriated or having a panic attack or something then it's pretty safe to assume that my senses aren't as sharp as they could be.
but, i don't think i'm delusional nor do i suffer from hallucinations (that i know of), so to trust my senses seems to be pretty logical. they seem to approximate reality rather well so far... i mean, they seem to be correct more than they're wrong anyhow.
you`re not delusional.
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Taffmonster
from dog_belch (Japan) on 2005-08-24 10:24 [#01705256]
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cogito ergo sum sum res cogitans
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epohs
from )C: on 2005-08-24 10:24 [#01705257]
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WHO SAID THAT!!!!???
*eats monitor*
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2005-08-24 10:27 [#01705264]
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res extensa.
descartes has nothing to do with this. I don`t distrust everything I experience.. only when I feel there`s something wrong.. unfortunately, some times I have been a bit too paranoid, and thought things that are there aren`t really there.. this is rare, though.
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Taffmonster
from dog_belch (Japan) on 2005-08-24 10:29 [#01705266]
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i know i was just seing if i remebered it lol think i said it wrong anyhow
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plaidzebra
from so long, xlt on 2005-08-24 10:30 [#01705269]
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while i depend on the apparent stability, coherence and predictability of what i derive from my senses, i'm aware that i manufacture what i call "my senses" from an extremely limited set of data input. the awareness that the apparently objective world around me possesses only features which i have assigned to it means i know my senses can't be trusted. luckily, most people agree with me about the features that seem stable, coherent and predictable, so i can go on with the illusion without much trouble. does anybody really read this stuff?
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Taffmonster
from dog_belch (Japan) on 2005-08-24 10:31 [#01705271]
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i had a friend who took acid once and for a year he thought he was in one trip he believed he could stop restart time and shit which was pretty fucked up he had to have councilling
wierd thing was he sometimes knew what would happen before it did freaky matrix shiit
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plaidzebra
from so long, xlt on 2005-08-24 10:33 [#01705274]
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a human on acid is a monkey in a ufo.
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epohs
from )C: on 2005-08-24 10:34 [#01705277]
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wierd thing was he sometimes knew what would happen before it did
i'm curious now. more details please.
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bob
from Nottingham (United Kingdom) on 2005-08-24 10:35 [#01705280]
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the only thing about me that tingles is my herpes.
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khonnor
from beanbag village (Malta) on 2005-08-24 10:37 [#01705282]
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saem
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khonnor
from beanbag village (Malta) on 2005-08-24 10:37 [#01705284]
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same as in more freaky deatails
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Skink
from A cesspool in eden on 2005-08-24 10:43 [#01705289]
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In short, no I don't.
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rasec
from mty (Mexico) on 2005-08-24 10:48 [#01705292]
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oddly enough, i do trust my senses... because when it smells like shit, there's shit!
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plaidzebra
from so long, xlt on 2005-08-24 11:04 [#01705301]
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i never smelled any shit that i didn't smell. interesting viewpoint...
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epohs
from )C: on 2005-08-24 11:07 [#01705305]
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though, i have smelt non-shitish objects that clearly smelt of shit.
^ true story.
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2005-08-24 11:22 [#01705315]
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maybe he just did that `it happened like that before, so it will most likely happen like that again` thing... like, `that guy sucks at driving, and so does the guy coming down that other street. they will most likely crash`
other than that.. weird.
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Anus_Presley
on 2005-08-24 15:03 [#01705474]
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i do
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Ophecks
from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2005-08-24 15:21 [#01705482]
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Of course not. Flashes of light, singing dead kids and ghost people are like par the course. But I think it's pretty weird that you can taste and smell things that aren't there, that's something that would creep me out.
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J198
from Maastricht (Netherlands, The) on 2005-08-24 15:29 [#01705486]
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while i depend on the apparent stability, coherence and predictability of what i derive from my senses, i'm aware that i manufacture what i call "my senses" from an extremely
limited set of data input. the awareness that the apparently objective world around me possesses only features
which i have assigned to it means i know my senses can't be
trusted.
that was beautifully written. you obviously have a good understanding of the word perception.
i was about to say 'yes, but i know my senses are capable of so much more' which hardly explains anything.
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mimi
on 2005-08-24 15:36 [#01705488]
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i generally do, although sometimes i think i see something moving or flying by out of the corner of my eye, and when i turn around to see what it was, it was nothing.
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epohs
from )C: on 2005-08-24 15:37 [#01705489]
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omg you're a nutcase!
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mimi
on 2005-08-24 15:38 [#01705491]
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that or i have a brain tumor. oh boy!
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welt
on 2005-08-24 15:50 [#01705499]
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when i was a kid i heard silly and strange voices occassionally calling my name. or my sister talked for a few sentences in my father's voice, or a kindergartenfriend talked in my sisters voice and so on.
i do trust my senses, though.
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Crocomire
from plante (United States) on 2005-08-24 16:01 [#01705507]
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weeee!
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2005-08-24 17:26 [#01705565]
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yeah.. I know... I should be used to it by now, but it still makes me go `what the fuck?`
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Xeron
from London (United Kingdom) on 2005-08-24 17:29 [#01705574]
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I don't know whether I would fully trust my senses but the times when I have wrongly ignored my senses really stick out more in my mind rather then the times when they have led me wrong.
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Refund
from Melbourne (Australia) on 2005-08-24 23:59 [#01705745]
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I thinks it's silly to trust your own senses or judgment
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rasec
from mty (Mexico) on 2005-08-25 01:14 [#01705759]
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when i was a little boy i saw a dwarf... i was/am so sure i saw one...
i even said "hello".. and he waved..
and i saw a ghost once...
i trust my senses...
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Refund
from Melbourne (Australia) on 2005-08-25 01:23 [#01705761]
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I think you're silly.
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E-man
from Rixensart (Belgium) on 2005-08-25 03:14 [#01705839]
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your sense can do no wrong, it's all your brain's fault! serioulsly, your eye can only catch light... but the brain interpret it, and there can be problems at that stage...
most of the time if you know well the mechanisms you can know that it's not "right", most people never notice anything weird, appart from seeing things, which can be atributed to day-dreaming of sort most of the time, again it's your brain not your eyes, and because of that you can be aware of it...
so, yea, i trust my sense 100% but i don't trust my faulty, drug fueled brain :P
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2005-08-25 03:22 [#01705853]
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well, as your brain is required for your senses to make sense, it would be part of your senses imo.
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XLT_RAID
on 2005-08-25 03:30 [#01705861]
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LETS
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XLT
RAID
ONMOUSEOVER::XLT_RAID
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XLT_RAID
on 2005-08-25 03:31 [#01705863]
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lets not tell jeroen there's still some html exploits to be tinkered with
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2005-08-25 03:31 [#01705864]
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XLT RAID!!!
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