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I know this topic doesn't entirely translate to most electronic music, but does anyone else here always notice when a voice on a recording is doctored up with a pitch-correction program? I swear 99% of american popular music (over)uses this technique, rather than getting a really good take and putting up with its human qualities. It ends up sounding all weird and 'rubbery', with little or no portamento (i think that's what you call it) between drastic note changes. It nearly ruins some albums for me when it's really obvious. Also, does anyone here ever use pitch correction on things other than voice? I think you could get some interesting effects by using the more drastic cher-like amount of correction on instruments that naturally bend notes a bit. I'd like to hear some thoughts on this, even though most people here probably don't mind the intrusion of technology into their music in any way, I just think it sucks the life out of singing and makes it sound fucked-up. I'll shut up now. |
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ha, cher-like amount |
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I guess that effect is technically called 'pitch accumulation'. |
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No, wait. Scratch that. |
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Ick. href='http://www.temple.edu/ispr/examples/ex03_08_25.html">I guess people are using it live now, too |
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href="'http://www.temple.edu/ispr/examples/ex03_08_25.html" Irk |
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who cares. im never going to a country concert anyway |
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It's likely used more on other types of music than on country. |
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Doesn't Squarepusher use Autotune in Red Hot Car? By the way, what exactly are the lyrics to Red Hot Car. |
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it's almost a 'fashion' nowadays to overuse the pitch correction, to give that robot-like effect. that cher song is horrible though... |
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Yeah there's a new Coldplay song called White Shadows which uses Autotune. I have it as a plug-in, but personally I think it's awful and obvious to a trained ear like mine. |
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fun thing to do: Drive around with your windows rolled down singing along to that "do you believe in love" song by cher. blast it good and loud. |
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Well, I consider the cher thing to be an effect, so it's more excusable in my opinion than using the program to cover up bad singing, or to take an already good vocal take and 'sterilise' and 'de-human-ify' it. A good example of a song that really bothers me with the effect is 'the noose' by A perfect circle. Not one of my favorite bands, but the guy is a really good singer and the auto-tune is totally unnecessary, and is irksome to most people with decent hearing, and some familiarity with modern recording techniques. |
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mernh. had to karaoke that tune at a party. :\ backtotopic: agreed. many vocalists are overproduced/pitch corrected -- usually does not appeal to me. |
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Yeah give me some raw singing... Lou Reed, Bob Dylan, Thom Yorke, Elvis Costello (well he sorta invented his own pitch correction) even John Lennon when he overdubbed his stuff and put on some heavy analog voice effects/double+pitched, at least it was RAW. I'm listening to Bob Dylan : Live 1966. When he gets shouted "JUDAS!" and goes into a rampage on Like A Rolling Stone, that's so fucking superior. |
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Some years ago (same year that Cher track was released) I dl'ed some auto-tune plug-ins, but I could'nt make them work ....I imagined that I could use it for non-vocal, "non-musical" sound, like ; just sample random field-recordings, and then put it through auto-tune, making it all fit a simple scale or minor chord, and it would be all nice ..but the sound has to be (errrr) "singlenote" (err, what's the word?) and random sounds has too many notes so that it will screw up the autotuning .....but I like the idea of making "automized" music, or "set-ups", which is very easy in practic to then turn out like 10 new tracks in 1 day... ultra-lazy me ;) ..the artistic aspect would then be to "compile" the set-up, if you know what i mean..... manual complex music editing is ofcourse impressive, but sometimes it just makes me think "omg that person has too much time on his hand, that must have taken ages to compose all that crazy stuff, like 'get a life!!' (i know ; music is his life, but.." (ex. otto von schirach) .....and blabla (i'm babling a bit now...) |
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I like nice, shiny, over-produced pop and R'n'B. |
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I love when aphex weirdifies the pitch of voices in the come 2 daddy album. Audacity can change speed tempo or pitch, but it can't slide it up/down in real time like aphex, just all at once. I would enjoy it if Cher recorded a scream of her dying and then someone else pitch shifted it. |
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Me too; George Michael's WHAM 4 life. <3 He's such a hunk too. <3<3 |
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Antares Autotune is the one to get |
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