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It's probably one of the best standalone software mastering gear out there. "T-RackS 24 includes: a state-of-the-art EQ, a classic tube modeled compressor, a multi band master limiter, a soft-clipping stage and a complete mastering suite containing all the plugs in one efficient, "gold sounding" mastering plug-in built with actual physical models of tube circuitry. With its separate processors, astonishing warmth and ease-of-use, you'll be putting a polish on your tracks you may have never thought possible. All this, while adding the beautiful warmth and space of the tube devices it emulates. No other plug-in offers this kind of dedicated environment for such an important task and none sounds like T-RackS" Price: $239.00 (cheapest I could find) I used the trial version and what they say about this piece of software is totally truth. I'd really like to buy it... but $239.- for a piece of software is a bit too much imo. Does someone know a cheaper place for this program? Or a mastering tool (standalone) like this? |
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Heard some very enthousiastic people about this one: Planning to buy this myself... but also in doubt because of the $250 price tag... |
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such bullshit. Do you really know how to use it? You shoudn't master your own tracks. Atleast get the final bit on something real like tape or some other proper analogue hardware. |
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Waves diamond bundle.mm phase eq and L2 mmm |
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not standalone. irrelevant |
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bogala: I mastered a mix I did and it's worth it. I mastered the same mix at a friends house who has a lot of analogue hardware and this one is way better. |
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I've been also busy mastering a cover of Metallica's Nothing Else Matters, recorded with Sonar Home Studio... If you know a little bit of the underlying theory about compression/limiting/expanding/EQ-ing the results are quite nice! |
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true! those things can really fuck your track up if you don't use them correctly. |
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It really helps me to have a spectrum analyzer which shows you the actual signals/frequencies |
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I always write my songs with a spectral analyzer going on in the background. But T-rackS is very nice. Wanna split the cost Aesthetics? |
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the cost of the internet? BA-ZING! |
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boioioioioing |
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T racks is good for introduction to mastering. But really what is blowing your mind is just that the whole song is louder thats all. After a year you will realize how much it isn`t that great and you will figure out other ways to master ... the RIGHT WAYS hehehe. T racks eats dynamics up so bad... bye bye cymbals! hello reverb that sounds like one gigantic hiss! Oh, synthline that takes up all my mix, how are you doing today ? Where did bassdrum go? I could have sworn he was here ... |
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My cousin is a sound engineer, and sent me a cd full of programs a few years ago. T-rackS was on it, and is pants. It alright as an effect to use on a bass or drums or somehting, but for mastering a track its a no no. even the M Class stuff in reason is better than T-rackS! Just get a TL audio 5060, a mono valve compressor and you will tell the difference! This thing is fairly cheap and worth it. you will realise that for nearly the same price as T-rackS you have something worth having! |
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it's ugly why oh why the music software is so ugly? |
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yummy ! |
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haha ok then I'll stick to doing all my mastering the manual way :) |
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Well it`s not that it`s bad or anything, just it`s just a quick fix, sweeps the dirt un the rug yeah know? Loud and Clear, thats mastering. What ever you do to make it loud and clear is the good way to master. |
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Thanks for all the feedback, I shall look out for TL audio 5060. "even the M Class stuff in reason" is it possible to import wave files into Reason? weatheredstoner: No, even half the amount would be a waste of money;) |
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Just a little question? Don't you guys like this T-rackS software package, of mastering software in general?!? It's not completely clear to me why the hardware solution is any better? But some things spring into mind: - Because of software latency? But latency is no issue in the mastering step - Because of limited digital resolution? (no analog headroom above 0dB [unity gain]) Does this really matter when the product you're busy with is a CD, which is a 16-bit digital medium - Lack of tubes? Don't you think software can model non-linear responses without any problems? - Lack of knobs to play with? Please, enlighten me! |
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of = or |
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since i'm shifting to a total hardware setup i'm gonna have to get used to hardware compression and mastering but for the time being i'm gonna have to make tracks the old-school way. 4 track tape deck |
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Can't help ya. I do all my mastering with software on my computer and play it by ear. It's a tiring process but its worth it when I get it sounding lush. |
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mastering with a mono compressor?... sure about that? :) at college one of the members of my production group has got the t-racks mastering software and everything comes out sounding a bit flat, but then again he is a bit of a preset-nut. with any production equipment (hardware or software) you have to find the right ones that suit your methods, as everyone goes about things differently, and use different pieces of equipment differently. for mastering i'm using just 2 plugins (all software of course), a multi-band compressor and a limiter. anything that can't be 'solved' by these, i must solve within the mixing stage - rather than the mastering stage. i was using a spectral analyser for a time but my eyes did not agree with my ears, so i stopped using that. I've still yet to be 100% happy with my mastering technique. |
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yeah.... you better start looking for TWO of those 5060 babies :D |
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just master left channel then right channel, or do it as mono, or ok you get a stereo one, 5060 isn't really for mastering, but its about the same price as T-rackS and a lot better,and has presets,so that people can pick it up and use it without trying to figure out compression and stuff... lets face it fx like reverb and distortion are easy to use because you can hear them, but compression is less easily heard because it is best used subtly. you can master stuff entirely on computers, but even a lot of professional places still use outboard gear, computers are too fidly with mouse, etc tapes and compressors are more hands on and i think are better for humans to interface with and react to when using so you get better results. |
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If you look at the website for the 5060, they don't have a mono version available, just a stereo one. Its a lot more than tracks tho |
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er ok maybe I got the numbers wrong. I dunno, my point is that T-rackS is a pile of poo and hardware is better cos you can show off your little mini rack of gear to your mates and it looks better than a laptop and a 2octave midi controller :D |
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T-Racks did impress me at first with its rock solid brick-wall limiting... But after a day or two with it, you start to realise it suffers from severe digititus... So everything you run thru it starts to sound a bit like it's been tarred with the same brush. The EQ is exactly what you don't want for mastering too - Very low on the presense - You need 7, 9, 12+ db gain's! Absolutely insane - Ideal mastering EQ would be something more like the massive passive, where you won't need more than 1/2 a db to get the tone you're looking for... Waves Q-Clone is the best software alternative I've found yet. Software is quite alright for subtle digital limiting - Waves L2, etc... But generally horrible for mix compression... Almost always better without. Don't master your own music - Any tonal or dynamics changes you hear should've been taken care of in mixing really... Mix compression can be used as an effect, but don't confuse it with mastering... |
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Yeah. I like hardware more too, nowadays. Software is a lot easier, but it doesn't feel right, and I can't say anything beyond that. Altho having to go somewhere just to fix your synthesizer or sampler, instead of just finding a different crack and reinstalling it is kind of annoying :/ |
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