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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2005-07-15 11:38 [#01663997]
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please name as much good stuff as possible...preferably song titles. personally i find most of post rock real boring so i don't feel like researching much on my own :D
thank you!
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2005-07-15 11:40 [#01664001]
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actually, wait..i like post punk, it's post rock that bores me..
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2005-07-15 11:40 [#01664002]
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still.. recomendations welcome :)
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gay_dad
from 5 go mad in Dorset (Chile) on 2005-07-15 11:41 [#01664004]
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Wire
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DeadEight
from vancouver (Canada) on 2005-07-15 12:04 [#01664041]
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so which did you want? post-punk or post-rock?
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2005-07-15 12:06 [#01664047]
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post punk this time :)
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2005-07-15 12:06 [#01664051]
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for about 6 hours of it :D
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r40f
from qrters tea party on 2005-07-15 12:07 [#01664055]
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wire for sure... does gang of four count?
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2005-07-15 12:08 [#01664056]
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i suppose so..
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2005-07-15 12:13 [#01664063]
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if this is for that radio they sure give you weird assignments at times... post punk... what defines post punk?!
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DeadEight
from vancouver (Canada) on 2005-07-15 12:15 [#01664065]
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Public Image ltd.- Careering Mission of Burma- some song early on Vs. possibly Trem Two... the chorus is "Where did things go wrong?"... yeah that's probably the only MoB song that i really like a lot.
James Chance and the Contortions- Design to Kill the Pop Group- She is Beyond Good and Evil This Heat- hmm... maybe Music Like Escaping Gas (most This Heat is amazing though)
Gang of Four- Natural's Not in it the Raincoats- Only Loved at Night
grrr... i have to go now... other stuff you might want to look into the Slits Liliput the Fall (never been a fan myself, but i'm sure that will change someday)
Konk Liquid Liquid Caroliner (this is an insane stretch) 23 Skidoo A Certain Ratio blah blah blah... maybe next time i won't give you a list that's so bloody token...
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2005-07-15 12:16 [#01664066]
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wikisays
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2005-07-15 12:17 [#01664067]
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aww, thank you!!
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2005-07-15 12:21 [#01664072]
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fcuk, are bands on that list really all post punk?? i'd leave out half of those..
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2005-07-15 12:21 [#01664073]
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* 23 Skidoo * A Certain Ratio * Au Pairs * Automatic Pilot * Bauhaus - Also considered progenitors and members of the massively influential goth rock style.
* bIG fLAME * Big Black * The Birthday Party * The Blood Brothers * The Boredoms * Cabaret Voltaire - Also considered early pioneers of industrial music specifically, and electronic music in general.
* The Chameleons * Crass - Crass adhered so strongly to the punk ethos, regularly eschewing popularity or accessibility, that they cannot be contained by the label of punk. Their music, while bearing little in common with other post punk bands, was still an unwavering attempt to take punk music to the next level.
* The Cure - Like Bauhaus, The Cure are considered progenitors and members of the massively influential goth rock style.
* Cultural Amnesia * Depeche Mode * Devo * The Durutti Column * Echo & the Bunnymen * Einstürzende Neubauten * Essential Logic * Factrix * Fad Gadget * The Fall - The Fall's music changes drastically in "phases" designed primarily by a shifting emphasis of leadership. However, their music remains consistently post punk throughout their career.
* The Feelies * The Fire Engines * Firehose * Flying Lizards * Fugazi * Gang of Four * Gene Loves Jezebel * Happy Mondays * The Human League - Perhaps better known for their more accessible music, which is described as New Wave, and not post punk.
* Hüsker Dü * insane picnic * Interpol * Josef K * Joy Division - While not really conected with the Gothic rock scene, many acknowledge Joy Division to be the first Gothic rock band
* Killing Joke * The Lemon Kittens * Magazine - Straddling the line between post punk and New Wave, Magazine was formed by the remains of the early punk legends Buzzcocks.
* The Mekons * The Minutemen * Mission of Burma * Monte Cazazza * New Orde
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2005-07-15 12:22 [#01664076]
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# New Order # The Normal # Orange Juice # John Otway # Pere Ubu # Pink Turns Blue # Poison Girls # The Pop Group # Psychedelic Furs # Public Image Ltd. - This abrasive group was formed by Johnny Rotten, vocalist of the Sex Pistols, after the Pistols' disbanding.
# The Raincoats # Red Crayola # The Replacements # Scritti Politti # Shellac # Siouxsie and the Banshees # Spasmodic Caress # Suicide - Contemporaries of Cabaret Voltaire, Suicide are considered early architects of industrial music.
# Swans # Swell Maps # The Slits # The Strokes # This Heat # Throbbing Gristle - Considered by many to be the first industrial group, Throbbing Gristle challenged their audiences, both live and on studio recordings, in a way that places them firmly in the post punk category.
# Le Tigre # Tuxedomoon - Making music that, ostensibly, was intended for various independent film projects, Tuxedomoon's albums are often categorized as film music.
# U2 # Winston Tong # The Wake # Wire - Starting as a first wave British punk group, Wire's sound quickly grew to encompass post punk, and they were instrumental in the development of synth-pop and techno music.
# Young Marble Giants
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2005-07-15 12:22 [#01664077]
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haha u2..i'll put that on the list!!
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OK
on 2005-07-15 12:22 [#01664078]
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post punk = emo
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plaidzebra
from so long, xlt on 2005-07-15 12:36 [#01664097]
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that equals untrue.
pretty exhaustive list of post punk music from dead8 and tolstoyed.
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plaidzebra
from so long, xlt on 2005-07-15 12:39 [#01664104]
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how about belfegore?
red lorry yellow lorry?
fields of the nephilim?
sisters of mercy?
wolfhounds? (unfairly labeled "indie" or "c86", usually)
lords of the new church?
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2005-07-15 12:40 [#01664106]
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i only know sisters of mercy from that list..i'll check out those others..thanks!
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OK
on 2005-07-15 12:41 [#01664107]
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well then i don't get what the hell does post-anything means.
like the new wave of new wave what's up with that?
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2005-07-15 12:44 [#01664115]
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new wave also fits into post punk doesn't it? hmm
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plaidzebra
from so long, xlt on 2005-07-15 12:44 [#01664117]
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post punk is a bit of an old school phrase, used more in the late eighties. usually it was music that was dark, abrasive but with a pop sensibility as well, guitar-centric but more developed and polished and stylized than punk. most strictly speaking post punk was late seventies to early eighties, by the late eighties most bands either turned poppier or disbanded.
the new wave of new wave is just new wave revivalism, i think.
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plaidzebra
from so long, xlt on 2005-07-15 12:47 [#01664123]
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there's a little crossover, but new wave tended to be lighter, more fashion conscious, more synthesizer driven.
new wave: gary numan, devo (circa 1980), the human league, etc
at least, that's how i remember it going down.
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OK
on 2005-07-15 12:49 [#01664126]
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ok. i get it. tho it doesn't make any sense.
post punk has nothing to do with punk at all. why not coin a name for itself.
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plaidzebra
from so long, xlt on 2005-07-15 12:51 [#01664130]
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lots of post punk bands used to be punk bands, it evolved out of various punk scenes...
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plaidzebra
from so long, xlt on 2005-07-15 12:53 [#01664133]
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also, labels are made up by journalists, not bands generally. how else would a label as idiotic as idm be coined?
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gay_dad
from 5 go mad in Dorset (Chile) on 2005-07-15 13:14 [#01664158]
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The Durrutti Column, I was listening to them earlier, they/he's been one of my favourites for the last 15 years. They put the avant-garde jazz classical into post-punk. NICE.
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2005-07-15 13:17 [#01664160]
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i think i have one of their albums..infact i have lots of albums from bands mentioned in this thread but most of them are on mp3s :)
however, i have access to about 7000 cds and about 5000 lps (i think) of music like that so it shouldn't be too much of a problem..i just need some pointers :)
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OK
on 2005-07-15 13:27 [#01664179]
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yeah well but doesn't almost everybody starts making punk music? I know I did.
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plaidzebra
from so long, xlt on 2005-07-15 13:32 [#01664182]
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i suppose there was a time when "punk" implied a certain historical context, 1975 to early eighties. now there have been so many revivalists and imitators and reinventions that the original reference is made more obscure.
i've never made any punk rock, i started out making post punk. ; )
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axion
from planet rock (Sweden) on 2005-07-15 13:56 [#01664198]
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Post punk artists i recommend The sound can be quite deppresing to listen to because its kind of dark but they also got alot of raw power in there music
check out there two first albums Jeopardy and From The Lions Mouth or these tracks:I Cant Escape My Self,Winning,Unwritten Law
The chameleons they are way more lightheaded and got lovely melodies.Albums to check is What Does Anything Mean? Basically or Strange Times.Tracks:Perfume Garden,P.S. Good bye,Swamp Thing
Associates i love the singers voice he almost sing like they do in a opera.They are also quite glomy.Album to check is Sulk.Tracks:Party Fears Two,Club Country,White Car In Germany
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2005-07-15 13:57 [#01664201]
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cheers!!
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OK
on 2005-07-15 14:09 [#01664230]
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haha.. well, it's stupid anyay.
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Ophecks
from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2005-07-15 14:28 [#01664244]
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Every post-punk thing I've ever heard has been good, flawless genre. My favorite stuff not mentioned- Eyeless in Gaza, The Comsat Angels, The Sound, Minimal Compact, The Monochrome Set, Pylon, The Passions, Nightingales, I've got all it shared illegally.
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Anus_Presley
on 2005-07-15 14:30 [#01664247]
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the worrst genrre is post-rrock. it's dead in the waterr and awful.
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axion
from planet rock (Sweden) on 2005-07-15 14:34 [#01664252]
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how does post rock sound and can you give us some names of artists ?i dont think i have heard of it
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2005-07-15 14:40 [#01664258]
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sigur ros, mono, album leaf, gsyba, labradford, mogwai, my bloody valentine, tortoise...
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Ophecks
from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2005-07-15 14:40 [#01664259]
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Post punk would be stuff like Tortoise, Godspeed You Black Emperor, Mogwai, Explosions in the Sky... key words are usually plodding, grandiose, layered, crescendos, climax, etc. Not my kind of thing, usually.
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WeaklingChild
from Glasgow (United Kingdom) on 2005-07-15 14:41 [#01664262]
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erase errata are a great band. they were favourites of john peel.
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Ophecks
from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2005-07-15 14:44 [#01664267]
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But Labradford is awesome! There's a lot of good post-rock bands but I usually like the ones that aren't Godspeed-ian.
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axion
from planet rock (Sweden) on 2005-07-15 14:45 [#01664268]
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Slow Music
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2005-07-15 14:46 [#01664270]
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yes i like some..but there are just way too many bands doing the same thing..it all sounds too much alike for my taste. those i named above are the ones i like quite a bit. well, sigur ros and mbv are my fav on that list.
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Ophecks
from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2005-07-15 14:54 [#01664281]
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Post punk would be stuff like Tortoise I mean post ROCK, obviouthly
I never considered MBV post-rock but you have a point, they do fit. I like stuff like Pram and Stereolab, with some humor and wit... a lot of post-rock I've heard is joyless, uncharismatic stuff. Piano Magic is good too.
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DeadEight
from vancouver (Canada) on 2005-07-15 16:10 [#01664409]
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i have hard time understanding why the only Durutti Column album i really love is Live at the Venue... i've listened to most of the albums from which these songs of this set come from, but for some reason i seem to enjoy this one a lot more... i think it's probably because the sound is a lot more ghetto, and softened than it is on all the remasters... his voice and guitar just sound better to me when they are hovering in hiss and distance...
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axion
from planet rock (Sweden) on 2005-07-15 16:19 [#01664417]
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Yeah the Durutti Column is really great.My favourite track by them is sketch for summer from there debut album The Return of the Durutti Column.Best instrumental music i have heard.Although i have only checked two albums of them
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sean qunt
from BELFAST on 2005-07-15 17:09 [#01664477]
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durutti column is just one person, vini reilly
you might aswell say the first few years of factory altogether, section 25's first few albums and ACR's too
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axion
from planet rock (Sweden) on 2005-07-15 17:35 [#01664517]
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Do you mean that the Factory where so influencual ?they where just a part of it
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