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Monoid
from one source all things depend on 2005-07-13 00:34 [#01660886]
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You have to pity these guys. Obviously it's not OK to condone the horrific actions the slim minority undertake.
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Taxidermist
from Black Grass on 2005-07-13 00:52 [#01660890]
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Terrorism is the action of the hopeless fool. They choose anger and violence to deal with something that they don't understand or agree with. Sorry. This kind of emotional and intelectual inferiority needs to be dealt with permanantly. I am not just talking about foreign terrorists though. It needs to be dealt with in a manner that washes them all out. American, Asian, European and Middle Eastern.
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cygnus
from nowhere and everyplace on 2005-07-13 00:53 [#01660891]
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Well what's your understanding of death exactly?
As far as your existance, you are nothing but just a number, an amount of molecules made up of atoms and sub-atomic particles. Do people really die when they perish in a terrorist attack? Do people ever really die?
What about "pity"? What is it made up of?
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Monoid
from one source all things depend on 2005-07-13 00:54 [#01660892]
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These guys have been fucked sideways their entire lives and Americans have created a massive vacuum for these distraught retards to relay their anger.
Needless to say, we'll never ever win the war against terrorism.
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Monoid
from one source all things depend on 2005-07-13 00:55 [#01660893]
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Empathy makes us human....someone said that in another thread
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Monoid
from one source all things depend on 2005-07-13 00:56 [#01660894]
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BESIDES the fact that "slaughtering" them will only breed twice as many like them
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cygnus
from nowhere and everyplace on 2005-07-13 00:58 [#01660895]
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What is empathy? What is that THOUGHT? It's a reaction. What else is a reaction? Hatred, jealousy, an erection, bobbing your head to your favorite song, they are all reactions in the same. Pity is a reaction just like killing someone. So what is it that makes pity and empathy significant?
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Monoid
from one source all things depend on 2005-07-13 00:59 [#01660896]
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I dont know Im not a neuroscientist
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cygnus
from nowhere and everyplace on 2005-07-13 01:02 [#01660898]
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Ok then I'll tell you!
What makes empathy and pity significant reactions, is the results that they offer. They offer the result of more thought substance within the collective human mentality. They offer good results that make people live longer, and thus, more THOUGHTS, more REACTIONS, even though they are negative.
So, no, it is not empathy that makes us human, but it is empathy that sustains humanity.
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Monoid
from one source all things depend on 2005-07-13 01:04 [#01660899]
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Yeah but that wasn't the question....dude.
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cygnus
from nowhere and everyplace on 2005-07-13 01:05 [#01660900]
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Acts of terrorism, acts of hate, they only serve to multiply themselves. They only can make more of themselves. That makes for a world and an existance with no variety. Goodness, empathy, sympathy, those things can produce good and bad and in-ranged thoughts, which makes for a more diverse and (literally) thoughtful existance.
Are our thoughts entities and souls in their own? Do we manage our thoughts or do our thoughts manage us?
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cygnus
from nowhere and everyplace on 2005-07-13 01:06 [#01660901]
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So, to counter-act bad thoughts, you must have good thoughts. So yes I take pity on terrorists because they perform evil for the sake of evil, and for no good of humanity.
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Monoid
from one source all things depend on 2005-07-13 01:07 [#01660902]
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Our thoughts and reality is self constructed
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Monoid
from one source all things depend on 2005-07-13 01:08 [#01660903]
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But they think they are DOING the right thing, for the GOOD of ISLAM and or humanity...
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Taxidermist
from Black Grass on 2005-07-13 01:11 [#01660904]
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Well, generally, most of the people that are causing the terrorists or their society all the problems directly, seem to have a similar brain and way of thinking/acting. They would get weeded out too.
Or maybe I just said that so that if the US gov't is combing this website for possible anti-citizens during their fourth reich, I will look like a good standing and gullible member of their society, so they will overlook me for application to their concentration camps.
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Taxidermist
from Black Grass on 2005-07-13 01:12 [#01660905]
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Or maybe I was just seeing how many people actually care enough anymore about comments like that to bite at me.
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DeadEight
from vancouver (Canada) on 2005-07-13 01:16 [#01660906]
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yr a sly one i tell you.
i like your chances.
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cygnus
from nowhere and everyplace on 2005-07-13 01:19 [#01660908]
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ISLAM is a 3 dimensional religion. As claimed in the Koran, Allah exists in the 3rd dimension. So he is fallable just like human beings.
I'm not 100% sure, but, thoughts MAY not fully exist in this dimension. There is a problem with Gods who only exist in the 3rd dimension, because they are limited by the laws of physics, thermodynamics, and etc. That God is therefore fallable just like humans! A god that exists in other dimensions is not. So, what humans do for Allah, they are still working for a God that exists in the 3rd dimension, as they do! This allows for many evil, evil actions to be done and thought of as "right" when they are clearly not.
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Monoid
from one source all things depend on 2005-07-13 01:36 [#01660914]
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Everyone exists in the 3 Dimension, whats so special about Allah ? The 4 Dimension is time
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Combo
from Sex on 2005-07-13 01:38 [#01660918]
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religion sucks
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Zephyr Twin
from ΔΔΔ on 2005-07-13 01:43 [#01660921]
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scientists just need to develop a way to turn the part of the brain off that considers religion a good idea. that should eradicate about 80%+ of all terrorism
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cygnus
from nowhere and everyplace on 2005-07-13 01:45 [#01660924]
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If allah exists in the 3rd dimension, then Allah is possibly subject to rules of physics as humans are. And that makes Allah fallable as humans are. Even if the most elementary and basic laws of physics make something essentially "human", because it's there, and it lives, and then it dies.
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DeadEight
from vancouver (Canada) on 2005-07-13 01:47 [#01660925]
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religion is probably a pretty surface level feature of these acts... in some cases at any rate.
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Monoid
from one source all things depend on 2005-07-13 01:57 [#01660926]
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Where does alah live ? I cant see him
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Taxidermist
from Black Grass on 2005-07-13 02:00 [#01660928]
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The fourth dimension isn't time.
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cygnus
from nowhere and everyplace on 2005-07-13 02:09 [#01660930]
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Monoid; according to the Koran; Allah exists in the third dimension somewhere in some form. It does not specify where and how and when.
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manicminer
from Paris (France) on 2005-07-13 02:10 [#01660931]
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I can understand that the murderous, unfair, unjust actions and policies of the West must cause untold feelings of despair, loss, fear, contempt and hatred in the Middle East.
That's not to say I condone the activities of terrorists. The Brits who were killed in London last week didn't CHOOSE to be born in the UK. Vast swathes of the British public opposed the war on Iraq quite vociferously. But, beyond that, what are they supposed to do about it? The two-party political system that exists in this supposed "democracy" dictates that, whether Blair was re-elected or not, the killing in Iraq on the part of British soldiers would continue.
And then there's the fact that a lot of those killed last week weren't even British, but I'm not even going to bother to argue that point - the implications are obvious. I mean, several of them came from countries that haven't even got soldiers in Iraq!
However, I do think we have to ask ourselves some rather obvious questions about the countless tens of thousands of innocent Iraqis who've been killed since the "war" began. Surely their lives are of just as much value as those killed in London? So why are the terrorists condemned as "evil", whilst Bush and Blair continue with their phoney, illegal war?
At the end of the day, it's the innocents who suffer, in Iraq and in the UK. The terrorists are sub-human. But so is Bush, and so is Blair.
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_gvarek_
from next to you (Poland) on 2005-07-13 02:13 [#01660935]
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Remember about this.
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redrum
from the allman brothers band (Ireland) on 2005-07-13 02:17 [#01660941]
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Allah exists in the third dimension? So Allah has height but no length or breadth?
Not sure if I'm following you on this one.. Please explain
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mappatazee
from ¨y¨z¨| (Burkina Faso) on 2005-07-13 02:18 [#01660944]
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I don't take pity for terrorists. They are Muslims.
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bogala
from NYC (United States) on 2005-07-13 02:18 [#01660945]
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slim minority, sure, but I have a sneaking feeling there is more than a slim minority enjoying all this.
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mappatazee
from ¨y¨z¨| (Burkina Faso) on 2005-07-13 02:19 [#01660946]
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What is the 4th dimension?
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PhystPhukt
from The Holiest of Holes (United States) on 2005-07-13 02:19 [#01660947]
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I'm indifferent,actually I envy the terrorists
I wanna blow stuff up for Allah, yo. I get sick sometimes of playing Uno all day with my roomates.
Ah, hold on guys.......I think National Security is knocking on my bathroom window.
--Gets shot and dies. Thats it folks.--
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mylittlesister
from ...wherever (United Kingdom) on 2005-07-13 02:27 [#01660949]
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Einstein writes: "Since there exist in this four dimensional structure [space-time] no longer any sections which represent "now" objectively, the concepts of happening and becoming are indeed not completely suspended, but yet complicated. It appears therefore more natural to think of physical reality as a four dimensional existence, instead of, as hitherto, the evolution of a three dimensional existence.
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mappatazee
from ¨y¨z¨| (Burkina Faso) on 2005-07-13 02:30 [#01660950]
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Taxidermist from Emplant Media Death Squad HQ on 2005-07-13 01:00 [#01660928]
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The fourth dimension isn't time.
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cygnus
from nowhere and everyplace on 2005-07-13 02:43 [#01660952]
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Phystphukt is no longer a part of us!!!!!!
I have to kill myself now
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Taxidermist
from Black Grass on 2005-07-13 02:49 [#01660954]
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Time to too broad and limited a spectrum with which to determine a dimensional proximity. I can't begin to describe to you what time is or what the fourth dimension is, because I have made a point of forgetting how to think multidimensionally, because it made me go crazy, and I would rather not go there again. I just brought a couple lessons back with me when I rewired my brain. In all honesty, I got scared.
So I can tell you that time is not the fourth dimension. Its quite the opposite, as is giving labels and gradings to these different dimensions, because none of them are quite superior to the others. Although when you think multidemensionally you are able to comprehend a greater deal of information, because you understand it in a different way. Its kind of like hyperthreading for your brain.
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redrum
from the allman brothers band (Ireland) on 2005-07-13 02:51 [#01660955]
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hahaha!
good one.
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bogala
from NYC (United States) on 2005-07-13 03:57 [#01661019]
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Now all you need is a DEC speach box and people will listen to you/
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cygnus
from nowhere and everyplace on 2005-07-13 04:02 [#01661027]
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how could you ever get into trying to think multidimensionary? yeah im pretty sure you probably went insane dude, jeez
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redrum
from the allman brothers band (Ireland) on 2005-07-13 04:02 [#01661029]
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i'm pretty sure he's talking out of his ass dude, jeez
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Taxidermist
from Black Grass on 2005-07-13 04:07 [#01661035]
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Well, I did go insane, but now that I look back at it, the insanity is a side-effect of multidimensional thought, it wasn't the insanity telling me that I could think multidimensionally. While I was doing it I was still in an entirely rational state of mind (if that makes any sence), and most of my decisions and actions were sound, and logical.
Except for the fact that I was starving myself in order to condition my body to try to take nutrients from sunlight.
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Taxidermist
from Black Grass on 2005-07-13 04:07 [#01661037]
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Ah. Whatever.
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Taxidermist
from Black Grass on 2005-07-13 04:09 [#01661042]
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Just so I got my ass covered, its not like I am desperate enough to try to get attention in the internet.
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redrum
from the allman brothers band (Ireland) on 2005-07-13 04:13 [#01661048]
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Whatever yourself -
"multidimensional thought": you don't know what you're talking about.
So, what is involved in "multidimensional thought"? What thoughts does one think?
If you were educating yourself on this, I doubt anything extraordinary would have been referred to as "multidimensional". Our eyes tell us we exist in three dimensions. That's multidimensional. The term would probably be something like 'extradimensional'.
And don't bark at me for picking your language apart - i'm just giving you one reason why I believe you're suffering from verbal diahorrea - another being your original bullshit post of UH YEA I USED TO THINK MULTIDIMENSIONALLY, MANNN THAT WAS FUCKED UP SHIT, BUT EHH I'M NOT GONNA TALK ABOUT IT COS I BLANKED IT OUT OF MY MIND. SERIOUS.
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redrum
from the allman brothers band (Ireland) on 2005-07-13 04:15 [#01661049]
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i think it's more to do with attempting to dig yourself out of a hole because you can't concede that you were wrong about spacetime than getting attention on the net.
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Taxidermist
from Black Grass on 2005-07-13 04:20 [#01661055]
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Dude, you have problems if you start getting angry about what someone says on the internet. I have better things to do than try to get attention over the internet. I tried sharing a story about something I went through, and in true xltronic fashion, someone has to jump in and start screaming about it.
Anyways, I just used multidimensional for the sake of the conversation. The word I used at the time was metaphysical, if you want to start babbling semantics about it.
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redrum
from the allman brothers band (Ireland) on 2005-07-13 04:25 [#01661060]
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I'm not angry whatsoever, it just slightly annoys me when people try to bullshit and they're obviously bullshitting.
You're into a different realm of thought with metaphysics.
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Taxidermist
from Black Grass on 2005-07-13 04:27 [#01661062]
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Well, I suggest that we forget anything was ever mentioned before tridenti comes in and tries to say something
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Taxidermist
from Black Grass on 2005-07-13 04:29 [#01661063]
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Besides. When I try to get peoples attention, I don't do it with bullshit. I do it with pictures like this;
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