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godataloss
from Cleveland (United States) on 2005-07-07 06:00 [#01654958]
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during this difficult time. God bless the departed and heal the injured- and punish those responsible.
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redrum
from the allman brothers band (Ireland) on 2005-07-07 06:01 [#01654959]
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hi, mr bush.
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nacmat
on 2005-07-07 06:04 [#01654961]
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there is no fucking god
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Skink
from A cesspool in eden on 2005-07-07 06:04 [#01654962]
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Now, now. Stiff upper lip old boy!
: )
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redrum
from the allman brothers band (Ireland) on 2005-07-07 06:04 [#01654963]
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you mean well, and that's nice but this just sounds like an excerpt from some bush rhetoric.
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Peter File
from the future!!! Ooooh chase me! on 2005-07-07 06:04 [#01654964]
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Yes, thoughtsandprayers for all!
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WeaklingChild
from Glasgow (United Kingdom) on 2005-07-07 06:17 [#01654966]
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i thought this guy hated god and jesus, and all things christian.
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staz
on 2005-07-07 06:20 [#01654969]
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that damn god.
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WeaklingChild
from Glasgow (United Kingdom) on 2005-07-07 06:21 [#01654971]
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god, sometime a couple of years ago,
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Walnut
from Somewhere in (Bosnia and Herzegovina) on 2005-07-07 06:26 [#01654976]
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They don't hate all Christians, they hate western oppressors. They feel they've been driven to extreme measures by our society and policies, much stemming from the political backing of israel over palastine. So punish those responsible? Punish Bush as much as the next man.
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godataloss
from Cleveland (United States) on 2005-07-07 06:26 [#01654978]
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9-11 was like a day spent underwater- mind-numbing anxiety.
My intention was to offer condolences and prayers not provoke the raving assholes (redrum) or a discussion of christianity.
I most certainly believe in God and for what its worth- I tried to put in a good word this morning.
Stay positive.
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redrum
from the allman brothers band (Ireland) on 2005-07-07 06:32 [#01654983]
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Please point out where in this thread I have been a raving asshole.
Both of my posts were completely coherent, calm and polite.
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Peter File
from the future!!! Ooooh chase me! on 2005-07-07 06:32 [#01654984]
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You crazy, man! Theyhateourfreedom! They want to destroy our wayoflife! etc
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godataloss
from Cleveland (United States) on 2005-07-07 06:41 [#01654994]
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Redrum- from one contentious asshole to another -you are an asshole.
I at least know when its appropriate.
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redrum
from the allman brothers band (Ireland) on 2005-07-07 07:17 [#01655014]
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Take a look through your thread. Nobody has replied in the same tone as the original post, nobody has kept with your GROUP HUG thread idea, and that's not my fault - but it does mean I'm not an asshole for posting something inappropriate, since everyone else did as well.
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i_x_ten
from arsemuncher on 2005-07-07 07:24 [#01655018]
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going by that logic it would be okay to kill someone because other people murder people and therefore it would not be your fault....
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redrum
from the allman brothers band (Ireland) on 2005-07-07 07:31 [#01655023]
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Going by that logic, saying something mildly inappropriate is comparable to murder.
hmmm. well i guess it is to you, since you're the one who went on about "slaughtering" your former friends.
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redrum
from the allman brothers band (Ireland) on 2005-07-07 07:33 [#01655025]
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also, your addition of "therefore" before "it would not be your fault" is completely nonsensical. it doesn't match up to what I said at all.
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redrum
from the allman brothers band (Ireland) on 2005-07-07 07:34 [#01655027]
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a corrected version would be (still nonsense):
that it's okay to kill people, since other people do it, but if i do it, it's not their fault, it's my own.
you really can't compare murdering someone with posting something inappropriate on a internet messageboard thread. and really, come on, was it really that inappropriate?
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i_x_ten
from arsemuncher on 2005-07-07 07:35 [#01655028]
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going by that logic i don't really get what you mean, it doesnt make much sense.
and as for slaughtering my friends, well that was in a non literal context. i'm a very placcid person.
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Peter File
from the future!!! Ooooh chase me! on 2005-07-07 07:37 [#01655030]
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I've heard enough, murderer.
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marlowe
from Antarctica on 2005-07-07 07:39 [#01655036]
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wow, leave redrum alone guys. Obviously the tension and sadness of the day has rubbed off on you and you should be out looking for Islamics to blame and beat up!
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xceque
on 2005-07-07 07:42 [#01655038]
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Is it just me or has this thread deviated ever so slightly from its initial sentiment?
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i_x_ten
from arsemuncher on 2005-07-07 07:43 [#01655039]
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no i think redrum should leave other people alone.
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redrum
from the allman brothers band (Ireland) on 2005-07-07 07:44 [#01655040]
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Going by that logic, saying something mildly inappropriate
is comparable to murder.
Really don't see how I can make it any more elementary for you. Pretty obvious to me what I mean. Basically, that what you said was invalid, since saying what I said in this thread is not a heinous crime with horrific effects like murder is.
any more questions you can email editor@independent.co.uk
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redrum
from the allman brothers band (Ireland) on 2005-07-07 07:45 [#01655041]
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I haven't attacked anyone in this thread!
I've been mild-mannered throughout getting called names and trying to explain to you what's wrong with your thinking..
Christ, what the fuck is with this place
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epohs
from )C: on 2005-07-07 07:49 [#01655044]
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dude, read post #2 again.
while it's not a direct frontal attack, it certainly is a very thinly veiled sardonic backhand. you seem to be blind to your own bias.
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redrum
from the allman brothers band (Ireland) on 2005-07-07 07:56 [#01655047]
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Fair enough, point taken.
I still believe I have a very strong point though. Read post #1 again. Look at the wording, the christianity running through it, the signature "oh-shit-what-is-it-i'm-meant-to-say-again" bushpause before the last phrase.
I figure it's just that he's become used to this sort of language and it seems right and proper. Indeed, it is -- but it just reminds me too much of bush for comfort.
I acknowledged his good intentions in my second post (which he never remarked on), before he'd replied to the first, so I think i'd vindicated myself.
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Raz0rBlade_uk
on 2005-07-07 10:44 [#01655223]
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Why does stuff always have to turn so sour in here. Thank you for your words godataloss
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godataloss
from Cleveland (United States) on 2005-07-08 14:29 [#01657059]
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Sorry to see that the shit never really stopped flying after I removed myself from this discussion- it was not at all constructive.
Redrum- I'm not a christian. I'm not a Republican. In fact I put alot of money and effort in trying to defeat George Bush both times and do alot of writing against the moral majority.
I've opposed the war in Iraq since its inception and railed on and on to anyone that would listen that Iraq is a horrible use of money to combat terrorism. I've said (hardly original to me) secure the airports, seaports, subways, nuke and chemical plants first. These are all POSITIVE things that could of come from the tragedy.
Positive things redrum- do you know how to be positive? How about donating some blood you ass?
I logged onto XLT first thing yesterday out of concern and a sincere wish to support people in any small way- not to start a political debate. Get the wounded stabilzed and those that can't be saved into the grieving hands of their loved ones and then I'll listen to your ranting.
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J198
from Maastricht (Netherlands, The) on 2005-07-08 15:03 [#01657122]
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redrum makes me laugh quite often these days.
that said, my thoughts are also with all victims of any war. prayers, well, not yet.
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virginpusher
from County Clare on 2005-07-08 15:21 [#01657164]
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I love politics and religion because it makes over 90% of this board act like cunts. Great stuff guys! Bravo!
Theres an old rule of three things to never discuss and i kind of see why
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virginpusher
from County Clare on 2005-07-08 15:22 [#01657169]
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Oh and its not that i dont like you guys (because i love you all) but i dont like it when people act like this in stupid war/politics/Religion threads
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PhystPhukt
from The Holiest of Holes (United States) on 2005-07-08 15:34 [#01657195]
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Are we going to sing "kumbayah"?
This is the thread of WAR!! At least ...it went in that direction.....--shrugs--
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k_maty
on 2005-07-08 15:52 [#01657216]
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Respect to London
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godataloss
from Cleveland (United States) on 2005-07-08 22:11 [#01657412]
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PhystPhukt a call to arms would be appropriate if this was a war...but this is different.
i dont know what this is. I just know its wrong
and being of a Kuntry of cowboys and mommas-boys I dont know how to react except lovingly
let's get through this together, then attack those responsible with an absolutely overwehlming force....
and then get on with living.
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