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CS2x
from London (United Kingdom) on 2005-07-02 16:36 [#01650999]
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Everything. You might as well just drink yourself to the end. For what?
We try and find a meaning in everything, but in reality there is nothing.
Just go now.
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xceque
on 2005-07-02 16:39 [#01651000]
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You are wrong. Chocolate is not crap. And neither is going for a piss after you've been desperately holding it in for a couple of hours.
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CS2x
from London (United Kingdom) on 2005-07-02 16:41 [#01651001]
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I experienced that today...It was great.
I got home and I hadn't pissed for hours. The experience of release was better then anything else I have ever experienced.
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Matvey
from Kiev (Ukraine) on 2005-07-02 16:48 [#01651003]
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i have accidentally read in a medical book for parents several years ago:
if your child seems not to visit the toilet for a long time, you have to remind. cause the feeling of release after a long hold of piss is a little similar to orgasm and can cause something...
some soviet book, maybe. i don't remember it well.
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2005-07-02 17:08 [#01651005]
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it can cause something?
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uzim
on 2005-07-02 17:09 [#01651006]
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probably not chocolate.
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Matvey
from Kiev (Ukraine) on 2005-07-02 17:14 [#01651008]
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i don't remember what was it that the book said there.
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2005-07-02 17:24 [#01651010]
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well, we can all find solace in the fact that of all the crapness in the world nothing is as crap as this thread.
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CS2x
from London (United Kingdom) on 2005-07-02 17:32 [#01651011]
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If that is true, close it. You are teH mod, after alls.
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2005-07-02 17:40 [#01651013]
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meh. it's a slow night, maybe it'll change for the good.
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CS2x
from London (United Kingdom) on 2005-07-02 17:44 [#01651014]
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I doubt it. Everything is shit. Just accept the truth.
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2005-07-02 17:46 [#01651017]
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you sound like monoid.
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Raz0rBlade_uk
on 2005-07-02 18:01 [#01651022]
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I think the same every day of my life but then there is always the fear...
of dying
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cygnus
from nowhere and everyplace on 2005-07-02 18:03 [#01651023]
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I dont understand depressed people
There are 400,000 billion other animals and insects completely aware of death and dont care about it why can't you
I admit I get depressed too but its just boredom
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2005-07-02 18:08 [#01651030]
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you sound well informed.
as if all depressed people are afraid of death and that's why they are depressed.
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CS2x
from London (United Kingdom) on 2005-07-02 18:08 [#01651031]
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Well I don't get it either. Objectively speaking, life is pretty good from my angle.
Unfortunately, us humans have annoyingly complex and seemingly out-of-control emmotions. They don't obey us, or external circumstances.
Drink doesn't help either.
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bob
from Nottingham (United Kingdom) on 2005-07-02 18:12 [#01651033]
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this is a bit daft for me. not a fan of sweeping statements.
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cygnus
from nowhere and everyplace on 2005-07-02 18:12 [#01651034]
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I dunno I think all depression stems from the fear of loss, and the ultimate loss being death... etc. I kinda draw the conclusion that way.
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2005-07-02 18:15 [#01651037]
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my thoughts exactly.
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2005-07-02 18:18 [#01651039]
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it's a lot more complex than that, with the brain and chemicals and all that crap and people having different social backgrounds, upbringings and experiences in life.
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cygnus
from nowhere and everyplace on 2005-07-02 18:20 [#01651041]
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Depression is just lacking the will to go on really in my view. I have done lots of social work and thats really the conclusion I drew so many times. Family related, etc, things just pile on mentally. Just nothing new you know...
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cygnus
from nowhere and everyplace on 2005-07-02 18:22 [#01651044]
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So that stems from death. You have the fear. You can factor in all the weight into the fear that brings death closer and that is what handicaps. Do you see what I mean
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CS2x
from London (United Kingdom) on 2005-07-02 18:24 [#01651045]
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No, it doesn't have to be that.
You could be the richest, safest, most socially-fulfilled person ever and still get hit by awful depression. The entire reason why it's annoying and confusing is because there is often no reason for it. It's just a state of mind that can imprison people, regardless of what happens on the outside.
At least, that's how I've understood it from talking to people.
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axion
from planet rock (Sweden) on 2005-07-02 18:25 [#01651046]
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depression comes and goes.isnt it usuly like that when you have finally solved a problem a new problem shows up
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cygnus
from nowhere and everyplace on 2005-07-02 18:25 [#01651047]
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This is why Bolivian coulture is so courageous... they don't fear death and will revolt readily against army soldiers ... they are not depressed and destroy themselves like many other cultures they know what the problem is
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2005-07-02 18:26 [#01651048]
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sounds to me like you're just trying to simplify something complex to make it easier to digest for yourself - draw conclusions, make a workeable, overseeable system, file it away.
I think it's a trap people fall into all too much.
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cygnus
from nowhere and everyplace on 2005-07-02 18:31 [#01651049]
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do you know why i quit doing social work?
i saw through the psychology, right through it
the people who wanted to get better, got better. the ones who didn't, didn't.
that's easy man. it's simple. it's not complex at all i dont think. you can factor in chemical imbalances and stuff too -- for the most part it's just someone addicted to feeling bad. but, whatever it is, its just, do you want to live? or don't you? do you want to be happy?
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mylittlesister
from ...wherever (United Kingdom) on 2005-07-02 18:31 [#01651050]
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e.g. stereotypes.
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2005-07-02 18:43 [#01651051]
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side-note: everything doesn't necessarily have to be complex.
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i_x_ten
from arsemuncher on 2005-07-02 21:24 [#01651078]
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aww. have a man hug off me if it makes you feel better.
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cygnus
from nowhere and everyplace on 2005-07-02 23:47 [#01651085]
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i_x_ten is the source of all depression
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Taxidermist
from Black Grass on 2005-07-02 23:53 [#01651088]
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I don't think depression has anything to do with death. its the other way around dude. Depression can lead to complacency, and unwillingness to live meaningfully, and so on, but so can happiness. Depression is different. At the point I am at now, depression seems to be much more synthetic an emotion. Like it was invented as a popular scapegoat.
As far as I am concerned, depression stems more from boredom or having too many choices at hand.
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i_x_ten
from arsemuncher on 2005-07-03 01:10 [#01651100]
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how so?
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