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Taxidermist
from Black Grass on 2005-06-30 00:54 [#01648552]
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Does anybody else feel that this song is probly closer in the analord series to the earlier melodies that made aphex so great? I love it...
Most of the rest of analord can go. This song is it.
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w M w
from London (United Kingdom) on 2005-06-30 01:25 [#01648567]
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I stopped listening to any of them after about 2 tracks. I guess I didn't expect much since drukqs also sucked which is perplexing because windowlicker, come to daddy and the RDJ album are inhumanly good.
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pigster
from melbs on 2005-06-30 01:59 [#01648581]
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I didn't expect much since drukqs also sucked
you... you'll wake up in the middle of the night some time in the future, screaming 'OH MY GOD I WAS WRONG!!!' and on that day i'll be at home, awake, thinking 'heh heh heh'
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Taxidermist
from Black Grass on 2005-06-30 02:19 [#01648585]
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No... Thats about it... drukqs sucked. 3 good songs. One bad album.
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bogala
from NYC (United States) on 2005-06-30 02:26 [#01648592]
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windowlicker was definetly inhumanly good. I agree there.
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nacmat
on 2005-06-30 02:46 [#01648595]
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analord will be a precious classic in a few years
drukqs already is
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Gwely Mernans
from 23rd century entertainment (Canada) on 2005-06-30 05:05 [#01648740]
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klop Job is good, and so is drukqs! Do some of you feel this way about drukqs because it was totally straying from rdjs original sound?
I always listen to an album for what it is, rather than expectations from the artist. Alright I lied, I do expect allot from an artist I've grown to love for each new release. But after time I'll open up to an album as is, stand alone. In short, drukqs fucking owns.
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Taxidermist
from Black Grass on 2005-06-30 05:14 [#01648747]
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Naw... I thought it was boring. If it hadn't been Aphex, I wouldn't have given it as many chances as I have, let alone a full listen.
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Gwely Mernans
from 23rd century entertainment (Canada) on 2005-06-30 05:20 [#01648750]
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heh, true story, this was the first aphex twin album I ever bought. From there I backtracked all the way to the classics era. So I guess my judgement for this album cannot be taken seriously as nostalgia fogs it :)
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Taxidermist
from Black Grass on 2005-06-30 05:26 [#01648754]
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Yeah. Next time, get into aphex when you are nine, and then come and argue with me about it :P
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Refund
from Melbourne (Australia) on 2005-06-30 05:59 [#01648771]
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I started at classics, does that make me elite or something?
I hope not.
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Gwely Mernans
from 23rd century entertainment (Canada) on 2005-06-30 06:01 [#01648773]
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thats right, rub it in some more why dont you. :P
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acid_polic3
from london (United Kingdom) on 2005-06-30 06:02 [#01648775]
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drukqs is my favourite aphex....
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weatheredstoner
from same shit babes. (United States) on 2005-06-30 07:27 [#01648811]
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drukqs rules, EFF the haters. Its just boring because you aren't listening hard enough. The sheer complexity and henious amount of details and variation applied each sound alone should be enough to keep you interested. Even bbydyhonchord has no 2 measures alike.
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tftp
from Danver (United States) on 2005-06-30 08:18 [#01648839]
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found these @ planet mu forum yesterday, somebody posted some good slowed down ones
should make for a good listen for those who dont like drukqs
mt stain michaels
bblyo
cockver10
omg
vordhosbn
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earthleakage
from tell the world you're winning on 2005-06-30 08:28 [#01648843]
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omg
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gay_dad
from 5 go mad in Dorset (Chile) on 2005-06-30 09:28 [#01648879]
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So that's where Elusive's gone.
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tridenti
from Milano (Italy) on 2005-06-30 09:30 [#01648880]
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how you know elusive?
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gay_dad
from 5 go mad in Dorset (Chile) on 2005-06-30 09:33 [#01648883]
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Everybody in the world that, at some point, has used a message board, any message board, has found themselves utterly bemused by an Elusive post, so profluent is he.
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ToXikFB
on 2005-06-30 09:36 [#01648884]
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its his site
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Refund
from Melbourne (Australia) on 2005-06-30 09:40 [#01648887]
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I've still never been a big fan of the piano tracks, (with a few exceptions)
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E-man
from Rixensart (Belgium) on 2005-06-30 10:05 [#01648897]
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:-o
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Zephyr Twin
from ΔΔΔ on 2005-06-30 10:29 [#01648912]
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klop job is great (no debate there), but there is a little space in my heart just for druqks, and no album will ever take its place.
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impakt
from where we do not speak of! on 2005-06-30 10:49 [#01648928]
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I don't understand how anyone can find drukqs boring, I can deal with the fact that some people don't like it, but how can it be boring when it's got the most complex percussion and crescendos RDJ has ever done?
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bogala
from NYC (United States) on 2005-06-30 13:25 [#01649104]
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drukqs is a technical achievment to me more than anything. It has a sound like it took lots of work. Like an Eddie Van Halen guitar solo. May have been really easy. Who knows.
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tftp
from Danver (United States) on 2005-06-30 13:31 [#01649111]
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EVH5150
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dave_g
from United Kingdom on 2005-06-30 13:31 [#01649113]
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I agree completely, the analords didn't do it for me,but i bought 03 just for klop job, its so good! :)
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OK
on 2005-06-30 14:58 [#01649169]
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anyone who thinks drukqs is bad needs a beating.
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Taxidermist
from Black Grass on 2005-06-30 15:00 [#01649171]
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How did I find drukqs boring? For the same reason that I find most venetian snares boring, and all squarepusher boring... its just really fast percussion. For beats to be interesting for me it has to have rhythm. Richard devine does insaine percussion, but there is always a distinct rhythm and funk. As well, it doesn't seem to have as much soul as windowlicker, or come to daddy. Don't bring up the piano tracks... I want beats with rhythms with soul...
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thecurbcreeper
from United States on 2005-06-30 17:57 [#01649356]
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gay_dad is dog_belch
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gay_dad
from 5 go mad in Dorset (Chile) on 2005-06-30 18:26 [#01649391]
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I don't think anybody, anybody, benefits from that kind of reckless speculation, especially in one of the rare Analord themed threads that we should be thankful has graced this board.
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tftp
from Danver (United States) on 2005-06-30 19:04 [#01649414]
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you're saying richie devine is better than drukqs and squarepushie
you may be off your rocker, but to each her own
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virginpusher
from County Clare on 2005-06-30 19:15 [#01649418]
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i am thinking not on that one
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bogala
from NYC (United States) on 2005-06-30 19:34 [#01649425]
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"Im self employed" is the stand out track for me. Along w/ 10, of course.
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ymenard
on 2005-06-30 21:04 [#01649445]
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Yeah man I was saying on a slsk channel not long ago... that when I played ZIGGOMATIC V7 slowed down to 33rpm, it was a wicked Analord-type tune that goes on for like 12 minutes. It's truly incredible, that long buildup on the normal speed where he showcases his work, it's as good.
(just slow down winamp 27% slower using a software like "pacemaker")
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Zephyr Twin
from ΔΔΔ on 2005-06-30 22:13 [#01649457]
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"it was a wicked Analord-type tune that goes on for like 12 minutes."
*makes a mental note to do that for a second time*
thanks for reminding me about that. ;D
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E-man
from Rixensart (Belgium) on 2005-07-01 01:19 [#01649496]
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breaking news, drukqs' beats have no rythm and no funk! fact! at first i found it boring, i thought it lacked soul... but c'mon, no funk? :(
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Taxidermist
from Black Grass on 2005-07-01 01:49 [#01649501]
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I'm saying:
Richard devine is a brilliant sound designer and programmer. I never feel rushes of adrenaline in any other music other than richard devines.
Richard d James is clever, but by no means technically brilliant.
Squarepusher is a musical genius, but I don't feel any of his work (so the problem is on my end not his).
dog_dad: This is my first redundant thread in years. Sorry. Since your such a long term lurker, who manages to actually catch most of the trends in here without actually participating, maybe you might have noticed that... or not. I don't stand out that much here. Thanks for contributing to one of my threads though. I haven't noticed enough comments like that since all the sarcastic mods got banned. Just be thankfull I don't need to talk about Rubber Johnny, glade, or different ways to fix xltronic.
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OK
on 2005-07-01 11:14 [#01650014]
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um. well your problem is that you think the beat tracks on druqks are about beats. no, they're not, there are thousands of elements on each track that blend into each other creating beautiful stuff.
also, the beats are fucking great. they sound like they took a lot of work. (I also recommend listening to them slowed down, not because i like the slowed down tracks but because you can hear them like if you had an ear microscope or something)
also, listen to ziggomatic, it's not like the beats stand out i.e. :doesn't feel like it's about fast beats.
also, the piano tracks are great, especially petiatil and nannou2.
and on a side note, i don't like venetian snares.
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Taxidermist
from Black Grass on 2005-07-01 13:12 [#01650113]
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I don't care if they are "super fucking complex and out of this world" or whatever... they don't have soul, they don't have rhythm. Do you really thinks it takes genius to write complex music? There is a reason why I put thomas brinkmanns concept 1 96 vr in at least my top twendy, and drukqs doesn't even meet the top 100. Concept 1 96 vr is filled with great mood. It has great rhythm. Its simple as hell, and its made with a two armed turntable and an effects box. Maybe if you lack better music to listen to or drukqs is the first thing you heard by aphex or anything, then you can be like "OH MY FUCKING GOOD" but I aint feeling any of the shit on drukqs. I used to try to listen to it, getting bored out of my skull by the time the second disc was meant to be thrown on. Not like I am not looking for complexity or anything, usually that doesn't scare me away from music... but it just bored the hell out of me. Why he didn't just release a couple albums close to eachother, or just make two ep's of the good songs, I don't know. Maybe he was trying to loose fans.
Anyways. I didn't say it wasn't technically good or anything. I thought it was boring.
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Exaph
from United Kingdom on 2005-07-01 13:18 [#01650118]
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i know what your saying but dont you think afx has soul of his own?
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dave_g
from United Kingdom on 2005-07-01 13:20 [#01650119]
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Doesn't he eat souls?
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Taxidermist
from Black Grass on 2005-07-01 13:21 [#01650120]
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Well, thats why aphex was my favorite artist for about 5 years. After his long break, I found people that interested me more, and then drukqs couldn't get it back.
He has soul, I just don't think he put any of it into most of drukqs. There are a couple songs...
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Exaph
from United Kingdom on 2005-07-01 13:22 [#01650122]
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exactamundo.
drukqs is fabulously unique and effortlessly timeless.
i also like how afx shakes of would-be fan boys by releasing stuff as challenging as drukqs and the staggered analord seeries.
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Exaph
from United Kingdom on 2005-07-01 13:23 [#01650123]
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namely; avril 14, vordhosbn and nannou?
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Taxidermist
from Black Grass on 2005-07-01 13:31 [#01650129]
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I forget which songs they are. Theres about three or four on the first disk, and one on the second disc.
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Taxidermist
from Black Grass on 2005-07-01 13:33 [#01650131]
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Can I point out once again, that its not challenging? Its just boring...
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Exaph
from United Kingdom on 2005-07-01 13:38 [#01650133]
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maybe to a genius like you, but us shmuks have never heard anything like it.
i always thought devine was an ae wannabe, and i consider ae to have less soul than rdj..
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Taxidermist
from Black Grass on 2005-07-01 13:45 [#01650139]
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Ummmmm. Notice how I wasn't insulting anybody. I was like "I thought drukqs was shit." and then people were like "but its soo good" so its that back and forth over and over again.
Wrong and wrong on the second part. You can say that after listening to arch carrier????
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Exaph
from United Kingdom on 2005-07-01 13:50 [#01650146]
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i was being a bit of a nob to be honest. but yes i can say that after listening to arch carrier, although it would have been tougher for me to say that if you had named corc instead.
for me ae's most emotionally potent track is krib, yet it doesnt emote me on the same scale as say, fingerbib.
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