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you might remember i got chased down by a bmw a few weeks ago.. you might also remember (if you read watmm) that someone stole my rear tire just a few days back, and i had to pay to replace it.. well.. today, as i was heading down to the electronics store, i got smashed.. some woman in a bmw tried to make a turn without looking.. i had the green, she was stopped, so i started riding. just as i got in front of her, she starts to accelerate, and keeps going.. right into me! i ended up on her hood, yelling "it's green!!!".. luckily i managed to move my leg out of the way in time, but my bike was not so lucky.. it was rendered unrideable.. bent wheels, pedals, and a damaged drive train.. she was nice enough to give me a ride home, and she's going to take the bike to a repair shop to have it fixed for me.. duno if that was the smart decision or not, but i was kinda stunned and was basically stranded with an immobile bike. anyway, i've got all her information.. if you want to see what happened to her car, check out my latest series of .. :\ |
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cars are dangerous. good thing to always have your camera with you! |
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Nice chav pic! |
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perhaps she found out you go to watmm? |
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weird things happen with you rather often! good that you've escaped the car. |
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I got hit about a month ago by a car on my bike. Its not fun, even if you don't end up with any injuries. |
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man, if you don't have a helmet yet, get one asap..you seem to get in a lot of trouble! |
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Good to see it's not just British BMW drivers who drive like twats. They're typically inconsiderate and reckless drivers. |
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Well, I think the problem with all british drivers is they drive on the wrong side of the road. |
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that's what i call lucky |
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i think she bound by law to pay all your damages, here cardrivers always are, nomatter whose fault it was im disappointed you probably didnt press charges against the guys who tried to run you over that time |
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Gah hate cars! |
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You guys are lucky. In bc, byciclists are considered vehicles, so if they cause the accident they are accountable for dammage. Fucking monopolous crown insurance company. I didn't even have a choice in the matter!!! |
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I personally believe bicycles should have insurance, they can and do cause damage/accidents where it is their fault. I don't see that just because a vehicle is 'unpowered' it shouldn't need it. Put a push bike with a 16 stone rider doing 40mph into a person and you could easily break limbs, etc. I've chucked a push bike down a road at speed and hit a car with it... Scooters can weigh less and go slower, yet they are required to have insurance in most places. |
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The problem is, when the insurance company finds a way to save money, they generally will. If their are no witnesses, the company will almost always rule in favor of the vehicle, so the byciclist is forced to pay for damages (if they don't have vehicle insurance). Its a pretty evil scheme. Because the insurance company has so many powerfull laywers, they usually win their cases. |
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Our lot take a different approach. They wanted to pass a law that made all accidents involving cars/cycles to be found in the bikes faovur, even if they were the one in breach of the highway code (the idea being it would make car drivers more careful/look out for cyclsists). Thankfully it didn't go through: cycling couriers run red lights etc. enough as it is. They'd be even worse, and some poor innocent bugger's insurance premiums would go up, if they brought it in. Insurance companies are ****ers though. They almost always try to get motorcyclists to take 50:50 blame/costs for accidents, where they were doing everything they were supposed to and some retard in a car just u-turns/pulls out without looking. People end up taking their own insurance companies to court to get them to pay out! :-/ Vehicle insurance is something I'd like to see nationalised, or at least watchdogged more heavily. |
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is that the watmm helicopter in pic #2 ? |
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I got hit by a w M w A short story by ms DeMount Everest White.. the ceiling was all white... my eyes felt like they had been open for forever, but they were just opened, still taking in the visual stimulance of the new day that was barely scratching its way through the gaps between the curtains. A thump. I sat up in my bed and looked around. Another thump. I quickly turned my head so that my still-fresh eyes were facing the approximate direction wherefrom the sound originated. Once more: thump. My senses quickly combined as the adrenaline pumped into my blood, and I pinpointed the source of the sound. The corner of my otherwise white and yellow room was completely black even though all the lights were on. I tried focusing my eyes on the dark patch, but they kept falling out of focus. Thump! Rub the eyes. Quickly. Quickly. So quick that I wouldn't miss what was in the corner if it fled. Ready.. set... THUMP! It's gone. The corner is as bright as ever. THUMP! Oh, now the rest of the room is going black. Dark. I try to move, but I can't. Why am I in this darkness suddenly? it's supposed to be day! Then I see the light emerging as I open my eyes again. I feel my head with my fingertips.. ouch.. there's a bump... it's rather large. It hurts. Could the stories be true? Yes, I would think so... I was most definately.. hit by a w M w |
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har har har! :D |
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this one? |
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hahah! |
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you didn't have to make a story just to show us your great pics ;) |
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"Scooters can weigh less and go slower, yet they are required to have insurance in most places. " Which scooters weigh less than a bike? Don't think so. I don't see many bikes going 40mph outside the Tour De France. Bikes are always going to come off worse in bike/car collisions. Is insurance for cyclists realistic? For all the *kids* as well? It would put people off cycling and put more people in cars. I hear of so many cyclists getting injured or by motorists who just walk away with a or a 6 month ban, pleased you came out alright chaosmachine... |
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hahahh...i vote Razor #2 that's a great means of transport by the way, i always laugh my ass off when i'm drunk with my mates and there's a trolley around |
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i ended up riding my landlord's old junky bike to work. it weighs about 60 pounds, and the seat is loose.. talked with the lady who hit me, probably won't get my bike back until monday.. |
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Yeah, that fool will never figure out it was me since I cleverly disguised my first w as a b. Hitting him was so rewarding... SMACK.. the fact that I'll get away scott free makes it even better. |
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I'd at least get a knobber in addition to the bike repair. There is pain an suffering to consider. |
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You can and do get 50cc scooters with a light rider that weigh less than a push bike with a heavy rider (which was my original point- not that the bike itself weighed less). Haven't you seen the road legal midi-motos? I can easily pick those up one handed. You can get ones that are even under 35Kg! Most serious cyclists regularly get to 40mph+ on downhill stretches on public roads. I've done it and I'm far from a good cyclist. In the UK Mopeds/scooters have limiters put in them to restrict top speed to 35mph, lots of them can't even make that (ie 30mph top speed). 35mph is easy to exceed on a push bike. A heavy push bike (taking into account the riders weight), doing 40mph has a great deal more energy than a light rider on a midi-moto doing 30mph, and consequently is likely to do more damage to anything they collide with. Believe me, I'm not someone who blindly defends 'drivers rights', I'm a motorcyclist and have got a scar on my leg from when a mong of a car driver veered into my path. I believe (and know from bitter experience) that most car drivers observation is poor and cyclists/motorcyclists are at risk as a result. However, I believe that is a different issue entirely to the reasons why push bikes should have insurance. Imagine you have saved up for months to buy your first car, a cyclist clips the door with his handlebars whilst undertaking you at some lights. It scratches your paintwork and it costs you £300 for a respray. Shouldn't he have to pay instead of you? Shouldn't he have insurance to ensure he can pay? As to the argument regarding it being unrealistic- it would be hard to implement, but it'd be very cheap- we're talking £20-30 a year from most people, tops. Just as low powered commuter vehicles like scooters cost little to insure compared to cars, push bikes would be even less. I'm also not proposing they should have to pay road tax (damage done to roads by bikes is negligible and they ease congestion. |
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*Most* cyclist do not go anywhere near 30mph, never mind 40mph. I'm on the roads everyday for 2 hours and most people are going very slow. Even most of the lycra-clad roadies don't go that fast except when going down hill. You're talking about a small elite who are doing 40mph. I think for the amount of damage cyclists do to cars, implementing an insurance scheme is a bit over the top. In over 20 years I've never hit a car (mind you, I've never hit a car driving either...). If a cyclist causes damage by scratching your paintwork, yes get them to pay for it. Oh, and if a cyclist doing 40mph collides with a car, what are the odds on survival? |
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"Even most of the lycra-clad roadies don't go that fast except when going down hill." Neither do I on the flat, but that's my point exactly- downhill you can easily get 30mph. Accidents happen at the bottom of hills as well as on the flat... and I really don't believe it's only a small elite that make big speeds: I'd say 80%+ of mates who ride (even though most of them, like me, are infrequent and not massively serious about it) have exceeded 35 on a push bike. "Oh, and if a cyclist doing 40mph collides with a car, what are the odds on survival?" Not great depending on where they hit. If you're wearing a decent lid and clothes that offer half decent abrasion protection and just clip it rather than plough into the side/head on, then you've got a reasonable chance. My dad came off (after being hit by a car) not wearing a lid at about 25 and only suffered mild concussion. I've come off at 30 and as I was wearing work boots/trousers and a helmet at the time, my only injury was road rash on my arm where the tarmac wore through my fleece and reflective jacket. I didn't even need hospitalisation and went into work. A mate came off on a dirt track at close to 30 and despite knocking his head on a rock, his lid saved him from and injuries other than a bit of gravel rash. Also, do you really limit your speed based on this risk? You're quite capable of being killed by a car rear ending you when you're pootling along at 10mph wearing high-vis. If you're really worried about safety at all costs, cycling probably isn't for you. |
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I think you're forgetting about the people on bikes who just tootle along going pretty slowly. They make up the majority. Old ladies, kids, people just going down to the shops. Commuters doing 15mph. "Also, do you really limit your speed based on this risk? " No, I don't limit my speed based on the risk of crashing/being hit. Most of the time I'm going as fast as I can or close to it. Crashing, I feel I'm in control of. Being hit I do all I can when the incidents occur to avoid it. My point was just not agreeing that most people cycle quickly and therefore need insurance to cover the all the damage being done to cars. |
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I agree crashing due to my own mistakes doesn't scare me particularly (on any vehicle I use), more being hit by other people. My biggest fear is cars pulling out in front of me/kids running into my path (I actually bounced a kid off my car bonnet due to the latter- thankfully witnesses could confirm I was doing 10mph under the speed limit and the kid ran out without looking and there was no way I could stop in time). As a sprog I scratched a neighbours car cycling along the pavement in a daydream. My parent's were mortified and offered to pay for it, but thankfully the neighbour shrugged it off. I was only doing about 7 mph at the time :-/ That said, I suppose my age/gender/circle of friends has skewed my perception of 'the typical cyclist' and that most people I see on bikes round here are under 16 and don't go very quick. |
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insurrance forr bikes? FUCK OFF TO HELL. only a cunt with too much sparre cash would think that's a good idea. |
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40mph on a bike? doesn't happen often. lets just be serrious forr about 5 seconds now. |
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