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does anyone like contrapunctus or anything bach is genious at? i personally am mad about his well tempered keyboard |
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You should hear my brother play bach... |
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hes a pianist? how has he been playing? is bach his strenght? was does he play? |
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how long has he been playing? |
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He's been playing for 16-17 years, maybe I will make a recording at some point let you hear it (although it would sound nothing like it does out of his steinway). I'm not sure if bach is his strength, its not his favorite composer, but I'm sure he knows lots of his pieces. |
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I can play Moonlight Sonata excellent... That's Betoveen (sp?) I believe, but still... I took piano for years, and that's the only song I can play... :) |
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Beethoven |
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The Well tempered Clavier is beautiful. I have book one on the harpsicord and book two was just released and I'm going to have to burn it soon. Also my friend just gave me Bach's suites for Solo Cello and it's also marvelous. |
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The Well tempered Clavier is beautiful. I have book one on the harpsicord and book two was just released and I'm going to have to burn it soon. Also my friend just gave me Bach's suites for Solo Cello and it's also marvelous. |
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"tocata y fuga en re menor" masterpiece brandemburg concerts----mastepieces. but bach himself is not of my liking. |
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I like what I heard, I like frederick chopin more probably though, the "poet of the piano" bach is about symmetry, having a melody and a round of that melody, or that melody playing 2wice as slow, or inverted etc. |
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i like frederick chopin as much as bach. they are so far apart, incredibly distanced by style form and time, that i cant say which i like best. canerfold: i have the suites for unaccompanied cello played by yo-yo ma and they are so beautiful. its so different from his other works, like his piano works. |
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yes yes i really like his cello stuff too.. and yo-yo of course |
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Yes, very different. I wonder if it was composed later in his life. The version I have is performed by Janos Sarker. I don't know much about classical, the only exposure I have is from my friend Geoff. A lot of Bach is definitely very symetrical and geometrical, which I like, but I'm sure I could get into some other composers if I knew who to look for. I find a lot of classical is a bit less than exciting, but Bach and Beethoven really get me going. |
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bach is dead. |
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True. ...and I meant Starker. |
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Piano? I thought the piano wasn't invented yet when J.S. Bach lived... Yes, I like his stuff. I just bought a huge 160 CD set with all of his stuff. Absolutely wonderful. Check out C.P.E. Bach as well(his son). |
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The fact that classical artists tend to be dead means that you have to find someone else who plays their compositions good... This cd is absolutely wicked try to find it: Frederic Chopin 1810-1849 (first song on cd is Waltz No. 1 in E flat major op. 18 Grande Valse Brilliante (5:05)) ... there's 13 songs total... I guess the label is regency music... This cd might be hard to find but it's the best classical cd I've ever heard, it has the emotion and sorta complexity of autechre, all the noise units are the same (a piano key) so it is full of symmetry. There are some simple beautiful songs (song 2) and some wickedly intricate songs seeming almost impossible to play on a piano. |
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Also, the chopin collection played by arthur rubinstein is excellent. Nocturne op 32 no. 2 is one of the most beautiful piano pieces I've ever heard. |
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shibumi : !!!i agree totally! i am mad about that two cd set. laserbreak : i dont know how to explain it in english, but you are somewhat right and somewhat wrong. it was a keyboard instrument that was technically superior to the harpsichord, because you could actually mallet (?) the strings and not pinch em. so yeah, there werent any piano fortes (almost like those we have now) in his time but it was the same exact scale. oh my god. i am so lost in my thoughts. sorry for being so unclear! |
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i am not a fan of rubenstein's interpretations of chopin. but the chopin nocturnes are extremely emotional - i have them for my piano, and chopin is the composer i play most often. i think umbriel is referring to a clavichord/clavinet but i can't be too sure. i am a big fan of bach's "art of fugue" and his inventions -- and i think his suites for solo cello are simply exquisite. a good book to read is the the eternal golden braid which links the works of bach, godel and escher together if you like beethoven, the psychotic interpretations of the ninth on the clockwork orange soundtrack are amazing |
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bach's toccata and fuge just rawk my world |
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another book on that same subject I think is called Godel, Echer, Bach. I've not read it, but it sits on a shelf at my pops house. A Clockwork Orange--the film itself, not just the soundtrack--is a truly insane and genius interpetation of Beethoven's 9th. |
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Great Great Great book! It's my personal bible. |
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the whole clockwork soundtrack is fucking marvellous cannerfold, i think we are both talking about the same book too, because the book's full title is "godel escher bach: the eternal golden braid" |
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Erik Satie is the king of Classical Composers. He was also a mad-as-a-hatter eccentric and founded his own religion! I don't get why he's not more widley recognised. |
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i wouldn't class him as "classical" -- more as a 20th century composer - i have the gnossiennes/gymnopedies sheet music in front of me - check out some his musical notation -- it's pretty funny (normally you would have "crescendo" or "piu allegro" etc...) "indulge in 2nd sight" "open your head" "without pride" "ask" it's great playing it because it makes you concentrate more on your personal interpretation |
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I may have to read it some time. What sort of links are made between the three? I don't even know what Godel has done. |
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godel was a mathematician |
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THE AUTHOR ESCHER |
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I kind of like chopin. |
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chopin is my favourite |
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I read about 1/4 or so of godel escher bach: an eternal golden braid... I think it's main theme is self similarity... fractals... though I don't think he ever uses the word fractal. It could be that he came to his ideas independently from "the fractal geometry of nature" by mandelbrot. He ties his chapters together with usually dull stories about some tortise and archiles... though I thought the one about popping in and out of mc escher pictures was wicked... stories inside stories. Some of the reading was skimming material though in my opinion. |
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and actually what I said above about bach being about symmetry etc. was basically taken from that book, though I have a "best of bach" cd and can see the rounds and stuff myself. It's hard to find reversed melodies and ones that play twice as slow though... It's a great 2 cd set.sounds like playful music they'd play in a humble tavern of yore. |
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I agree that to play his music is very open to interpretation, I have some of his tracks played by different people and the difference in speed is incredible. His music is one of the best for using with a speed up/slow down plug-in it sounds good whatever. As to him being classical, Barber is considered classical, but from around the same time. Are you saying he's not classical because he's too recent, or his musical style? He deserves a lot of commendation as he is the spiritual father of music that doesn't follow rules e.g. electronic, jazz etc. he really broke the rules of what is acceptable to follow what. |
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Yeah, I know Godel was a mathematician, but I was wondering if you know what he is known for specifically. I guess I could read and find out :) |
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Is the book by Daniel Hofstader (sp?)? |
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Yeah, I think it is by that person (rings a bell). He didn't talk about godel much from what I remember reading. I like the book "the selfish gene" better than this book, if you'd bother taking the suggestion from somebody who has a crappy looking animation, I know I wouldn't. *makes out with self* |
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That last comment is kinda wierd, but I won't judge you by it. Is that that jazz about memes? |
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aren't memes like things one creates or does/finds out for mankind or soemthing? Like art, scientific data etc? The selfish gene is about a lot of stuff. The guys brain was gushing out, that's one smart bastard. Some of the topics were quite confusing to me, I didn't read the whole book yet, but probably half of it. (I read it awhile ago too, so I'll probably have to reread some stuff to remember what the hell it's point was... good thing I tediously highlight important parts (in my opinion)) It's about evolution, life, natural selection, what level natural selection operates... he talks about computers and jazz too if I recall... lots of stuff. |
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I've heard of it and I think it somehow relates to the idea of memes, like maybe he also wrote about memes in another book. You may be right about memes. I think they are things in culture that follow the same rules as genes, are involved in a non-biological evolution. A popular figure-of-speach could be one. It's moving from the consciousness of one individual to another is analagous to reproduction, and if it is unpopular it may die off (natural selection; survival of the ideas that people continue to use). It's very vague though; I'm basing this info off of an article I read a long time ago. |
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I just recently learned the word memes from www.vhemt.com... I derived my meaning by how it was used in context since I didn't look it up. Your description was pretty good and interesting. |
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I mean www.vhemt.org not com |
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This topic is pronounced "batch" right? Because I just baked a fresh batch of chocolate chip cookies, they're scrumptious. |
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CERI - yup i was referring to his style - i guess it is a mixture of impressionism and 20th century... to be pedantic, the era around mozart's time is called "classical", after baroque and followed by romantic |
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i absolutely love bach and slowly i am working through playing all the 48 preludes and fugues, it gives me a real buzz, bach and afx r quite similar, i love semiquaver patterns, bach is good brain music, i own both cd's to the the 48 prelude and fugues and try to listen to it every day, its good stuff!!!!! |
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badinerie is beautiful |
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i also love clementi |
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'Concerto for Two Violins in d' by Bach is amazing, i'm slowly working my way through classical compsers at the moment, luckily my library has lots of classical cd's. |
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*bump* bach's music make my panties wet. he is fuckin awesome |
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