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Xeron
from London (United Kingdom) on 2005-06-16 17:31 [#01634920]
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thats good, the storage sites will come in handy for your sandwiches :).
the reason i was so shocked at the price was because playboat kayak are usually between 500 and 800 pounds.
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Xeron
from London (United Kingdom) on 2005-06-17 02:51 [#01635348]
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Ceri JC are you going to get into freestyle kayaking then?
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2005-06-17 03:07 [#01635363]
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If I move back home to Wales, I won't be far from Symonds Yat, which is where I used to do most of my white water canoeing. I'd also be 10 minutes from a decent surf canoeing bay, so I'd probably get a canoe. What sort of canoe would you recommend for 50:50 surf and WW canoeing?
I'm still involved in sea scouting so I can use their boats as well, but they're all getting on a bit now. They've even got some old fibreglass surf canoes (very straight/sharp profile- hard to turn but fast as feck).
I can do 2 sorts of roll with the paddle (I forget the names, but one where you hold the paddle normally, the other where you grip one blade, as well as the shaft) and a hands free one.
Any photos of me WW canoeing would be at my scouthall, I'll have a look next time I'm there for some.
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Xeron
from London (United Kingdom) on 2005-06-17 03:19 [#01635370]
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Wow you can do a hand roll, screw roll and a palata roll, V.good.
I've been to Symonds Yat, great for practicing eddy hopping.
I'd recomend a surf kayak, get a low volume one though. They usually have little fins/fixed rudders on the underside to give you stability and speed on the wave. The low volume will mean you can still do tricks.
Careful with the fribreglass ones as they shatter pretty easily. They make them out of carbon fibre now as it's lighter and stronger than fibre glass.
If it were me i'd get a play boat kayak but i'm a a sucker for tricks. Try learning some old skool paddle tricks, they're really fun to learn and quite pretentious.
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2005-06-17 03:47 [#01635399]
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If you canoe up the river from the launch point at symonds yat (rather than down to the rapids) there's a good rock you can climb up and seal launch off provided the river is reasonably deep.
I agree Symonds is a great training ground for eddy hopping. It's not much cop during flooding though as the whole thing becomes flat (but reasonably quick) as the rapids are fairly small.
When I belonged to a canoe club we used to play canoe polo occassionally. Playing without paddles is a good fitness exercise as well as a good laugh. Playing with paddles is fun once you get the hang of popping the ball onto the blade and it looks trick, but it hurts when you get a blade in the face in a scramble for the ball.
I've never WW'd in fibreglass, only plastic, but I surf canoed in fibreglass. I've never been in a carbon canoe, are they pricey?
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2005-06-17 03:52 [#01635403]
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We also used to do a game where you would see who could do the most hand rolls constantly without having to bail/x-rescue. Dive over, roll back up on the other side and repeat. Knackering and funny if you mistime your gulp for air whilst you're up :) I could only do about 5/6, but one guy there who was really into kayaking could go for ages.
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Xeron
from London (United Kingdom) on 2005-06-17 10:34 [#01635943]
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lol. sounds like a hell lota fun. Carbon fibre is expensieve (formula one cars are made out of it).
Try learning how to bounce the paddle on the surface of the water and catching it. Also perfect your Shudder Rudders as they look really cool. Get a general feel of the paddle eg. rolling it, catching it, swinging it round your neck etc. After sometime you'll be able to do paddle trick sequences almost seamlessly, Very old skool :)
We used to have a pretty handy weir at Chelsea but since they turned off the turbines at Chelsea Power Station it's disapeared. Shame, there you could really practice your high brace turns.
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Xeron
from London (United Kingdom) on 2005-06-18 13:45 [#01637273]
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Child810: has your kayak arrived yet?
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goDel
from ɐpʎǝx (Seychelles) on 2005-06-18 14:06 [#01637299]
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no kayaking here, but rowing instead.
me: (picture taken at a 4.5km race...and i won!!!)
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Xeron
from London (United Kingdom) on 2005-06-18 14:09 [#01637303]
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well done, that why the title said "and watersports in general"
Rowing is a sport whereas kayking is a past time.
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Xeron
from London (United Kingdom) on 2005-06-20 04:55 [#01638452]
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I hope all you budding Water Sports enthusiast out there are going to be taking advantage of th Great weather, today i'm going to go for the full vert,.
The Thames is going to be really fast today dew to the rain, fast flowing river only means more thrills.
Go out and enjoy yourselves :)
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child810
from boston (United States) on 2005-06-28 20:12 [#01647113]
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Yeah I picked up my kayak last weekend. It's sweet. Only got to take it out once though. I'll take some pics soon. It's nice and stable, and light. Can't wait to go out for a longer trip.
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2005-06-29 04:09 [#01647280]
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I dunno, kayaking can be a sport. My brother won a long distance race and I won a slalom at.
One the subject of watersports, my gf is showing an interest in windsurfing. I took her sailing for the first time a couple of months ago and she picked it up really quickly. Hopefully she'll get into windsurfing and we can go halves on a board. One of our mates has a few boards and a vans so we might get to do a weekend's windsurfing at some point this summer.
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2005-06-29 04:09 [#01647281]
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*I won a slalom at* = 'I won a slalom at a regatta.'
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Xeron
from London (United Kingdom) on 2005-06-30 12:10 [#01649059]
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I've always wanted to try windsurfing but it's a treck to the ocean and pointless on a river.
I've nearly got the vert nailed, it's really cool when your just there vert in the water for ages. Try handrolling on your week side ;)
I was around your area the other day, Bristol Open Day. If I do get in i'm just going to be kayaking all 5 years of my course :)
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Xeron
from London (United Kingdom) on 2005-07-02 06:10 [#01650592]
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Thats kool! makesure you take them and post them quick :P ;)
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Xeron
from London (United Kingdom) on 2005-11-07 09:04 [#01771990]
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oh just a bump with pictures of me sailing, none for kayaking yet though :(
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2005-11-07 09:20 [#01771994]
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I've windsurfed on lakes a few times, but I agree it's not much fun without waves (it is 'surfing' after all...)
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mimi
on 2005-11-07 09:25 [#01771996]
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i bought waterskis at a garage sale several weeks ago but then it got too cold to go out! now i have to wait for next summer :(
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2005-11-07 09:31 [#01772000]
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A full length wetsuit, cag and a beer gut should see you skiing all year round. I've not waterskied as such (I'm rubbish on normal skis too), but having done it on a windsurfing board (being towed by a powerboat) in midwinter, it's definately tolerable.
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Xeron
from London (United Kingdom) on 2005-11-07 09:32 [#01772002]
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you could always migrate ;)
anyway here's a more recent pick of me:
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2005-11-07 09:33 [#01772003]
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Are you using one of those "mini trapeze" handles on the shroud?
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mimi
on 2005-11-07 09:33 [#01772005]
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hrmm..i do not think i can afford to get a wetsuit anytime soon, at least not before the lakes freeze but it's something to think about if i really take to this stuff next summer.
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Xeron
from London (United Kingdom) on 2005-11-07 09:35 [#01772007]
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we managed to capsize those bosuns twice- a record!
and I came 3rd in a slalom contest over the summer; HRH the Duke of Edinghborough gave out the prizes-i've met the Queen's husband.
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Xeron
from London (United Kingdom) on 2005-11-07 09:37 [#01772009]
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no i'm being naughty and actually hanging on the shroud- the winds were strong that day and everybody else had reefed up their sails. Cowards.
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2005-11-07 09:45 [#01772013]
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Reefing is for saps and people with no self control; the sailing equivalent of traction control. The mainsheet works both ways- if you can't hold it/it's going too fast, LET THE BLOODY THING OUT. There's no need to reef the sail and lose power during times when the wind drops for a few seconds.
I hang off the shrouds too. Really hurts in saltwater if the shrouds are frayed at all :)
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Xeron
from London (United Kingdom) on 2005-11-07 09:49 [#01772016]
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exactly- except I really hate letting out the sail while close hauling (the reason we capsized lol). The power and exhilaration of going on the side is awesome. I remeber once having to sit on the outside of the hull in a topper cause I was close hauling to the extreme (I sailed quite a bit sitting on the side). Totally wicked.
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2005-11-07 09:59 [#01772029]
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I'd not recommend dumping it (let go completely, very suddenly) if that's what you mean caused you to capsize ;-)
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Xeron
from London (United Kingdom) on 2005-11-07 13:54 [#01772238]
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no, actually what caused us to capsize was a slacking in the wind resulting in our height above the water and our mass being positioned on one side to accumalativly come crashing down and causing the bosun to capsize ontop of us. Saying this I did nearly manage a spectacular dry capsize- I literally high jumped from sitting down and managed to grab the outside of the hull (the bow started to begin to vert), my weight and the algae though made me slide off :(.
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Xeron
from London (United Kingdom) on 2006-01-03 08:27 [#01810913]
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you will alll LOVE
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euphonicfilter
from illadelphia (United States) on 2006-01-03 08:40 [#01810941]
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i enjoy sailing, kayaking, canoeing, and fishing...
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euphonicfilter
from illadelphia (United States) on 2006-01-03 08:42 [#01810947]
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LOL...that video is great!
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Xeron
from London (United Kingdom) on 2006-01-03 08:44 [#01810952]
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I know- I can't wait to go to |Arkansas and do that.
I've done it before on a small scale though.
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euphonicfilter
from illadelphia (United States) on 2006-01-03 08:46 [#01810957]
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id do it while skiing...not a good enough kayaker to trust id be ok through that though
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2006-01-03 08:47 [#01810958]
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Ha ha, I've done that (wind drops and then you can't shift your weight back in quick enough). Spectacular if you're out on a trapeze. Gotta keep one eye on the ripples on the water to read the wind before it drops.
I'm going to be doing a lot more watersports again now I've moved back to Wales.
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Xeron
from London (United Kingdom) on 2006-01-03 08:51 [#01810965]
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:D- may come and visit you if my club decides on another trip :P. Check out the link- you'll laugh your head off.
I never thought of reading the ripples, thanks for the tip.- I'd probably be too enthralled at the speed we're going at to take much attention ;)+ capsizing a bosun is quite a bit of a joke.
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2006-01-03 09:14 [#01810997]
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RE: The ripples, it appears as darker areas of water, moving at a faster pace over the surface than the normal (tidal/general water flow) ripples. You can also use it to gauge when wind is about to hit and get ready to lean, so it doesn't catch you off guard (as well as the vice/versa method already described)
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Xeron
from London (United Kingdom) on 2006-01-03 09:19 [#01811006]
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cool- thanks, wealth of knowledge you truly are.
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2006-01-03 09:29 [#01811013]
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Don't mention it. I was only taught that a couple of months back, it seems like such a fundamental bit of theory, but so many people, myself included, go years without picking it up.
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earthleakage
from tell the world you're winning on 2007-12-08 21:01 [#02152326]
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if u wanna fake yr death, make a fuckin effort
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mylittlesister
from ...wherever (United Kingdom) on 2007-12-08 21:02 [#02152329]
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i hope you saw 'have i got news for you?' tonight - many canoe related laughs.
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earthleakage
from tell the world you're winning on 2007-12-08 21:05 [#02152331]
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i love brooker. i wanna have his babies. dee has decided not to be a tit anymore and that's great. it's never been better.
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mylittlesister
from ...wherever (United Kingdom) on 2007-12-08 21:09 [#02152335]
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and the teaming up of ian hislop and russell brand was fairly hilarious/uncomfortable.
paul merton is always good - need to hear him more on 'just a minute'
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earthleakage
from tell the world you're winning on 2007-12-08 21:15 [#02152339]
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merton does 50% of jams as just clement freud who is just as good if not better. i have last 3 series, if u want some just say.
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mylittlesister
from ...wherever (United Kingdom) on 2007-12-08 21:20 [#02152344]
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i need some smoke to really enjoy it.
a night of smoking, then just a minute, followed by petercook&dudley moore = a good night!
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earthleakage
from tell the world you're winning on 2007-12-08 21:28 [#02152346]
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jam is STILL the best show on 4. i hope it carries on after i kill parsons.
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mylittlesister
from ...wherever (United Kingdom) on 2007-12-08 21:30 [#02152349]
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haha, everyone hates parsons, but there needs to be something bad about the show.
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earthleakage
from tell the world you're winning on 2007-12-08 21:34 [#02152351]
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he reminds me of forsyth on SCD. oblivious to his own pointless embarrassing anecdotes mainly based upon senality.
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oyvinto
on 2007-12-08 21:41 [#02152360]
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i'm planning on buying a kayak of the wide and stable type, to go fly fishing in semi-slow rivers. something like the dagger delta perhaps.
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