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offline Xeron from London (United Kingdom) on 2005-06-16 17:31 [#01634920]
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thats good, the storage sites will come in handy for your
sandwiches :).

the reason i was so shocked at the price was because
playboat kayak are usually between 500 and 800 pounds.


 

offline Xeron from London (United Kingdom) on 2005-06-17 02:51 [#01635348]
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Ceri JC are you going to get into freestyle kayaking then?


 

offline Ceri JC from Jefferson City (United States) on 2005-06-17 03:07 [#01635363]
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If I move back home to Wales, I won't be far from Symonds
Yat, which is where I used to do most of my white water
canoeing. I'd also be 10 minutes from a decent surf canoeing
bay, so I'd probably get a canoe. What sort of canoe would
you recommend for 50:50 surf and WW canoeing?

I'm still involved in sea scouting so I can use their boats
as well, but they're all getting on a bit now. They've even
got some old fibreglass surf canoes (very straight/sharp
profile- hard to turn but fast as feck).

I can do 2 sorts of roll with the paddle (I forget the
names, but one where you hold the paddle normally, the other
where you grip one blade, as well as the shaft) and a hands
free one.

Any photos of me WW canoeing would be at my scouthall, I'll
have a look next time I'm there for some.


 

offline Xeron from London (United Kingdom) on 2005-06-17 03:19 [#01635370]
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Wow you can do a hand roll, screw roll and a palata roll,
V.good.

I've been to Symonds Yat, great for practicing eddy
hopping.

I'd recomend a surf kayak, get a low volume one though. They
usually have little fins/fixed rudders on the underside to
give you stability and speed on the wave. The low volume
will mean you can still do tricks.

Careful with the fribreglass ones as they shatter pretty
easily. They make them out of carbon fibre now as it's
lighter and stronger than fibre glass.

If it were me i'd get a play boat kayak but i'm a a sucker
for tricks. Try learning some old skool paddle tricks,
they're really fun to learn and quite pretentious.


 

offline Ceri JC from Jefferson City (United States) on 2005-06-17 03:47 [#01635399]
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If you canoe up the river from the launch point at symonds
yat (rather than down to the rapids) there's a good rock you
can climb up and seal launch off provided the river is
reasonably deep.

I agree Symonds is a great training ground for eddy hopping.
It's not much cop during flooding though as the whole thing
becomes flat (but reasonably quick) as the rapids are fairly
small.

When I belonged to a canoe club we used to play canoe polo
occassionally. Playing without paddles is a good fitness
exercise as well as a good laugh. Playing with paddles is
fun once you get the hang of popping the ball onto the blade
and it looks trick, but it hurts when you get a blade in the
face in a scramble for the ball.

I've never WW'd in fibreglass, only plastic, but I surf
canoed in fibreglass. I've never been in a carbon canoe, are
they pricey?


 

offline Ceri JC from Jefferson City (United States) on 2005-06-17 03:52 [#01635403]
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We also used to do a game where you would see who could do
the most hand rolls constantly without having to
bail/x-rescue. Dive over, roll back up on the other side and
repeat. Knackering and funny if you mistime your gulp for
air whilst you're up :) I could only do about 5/6, but one
guy there who was really into kayaking could go for ages.


 

offline Xeron from London (United Kingdom) on 2005-06-17 10:34 [#01635943]
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lol. sounds like a hell lota fun. Carbon fibre is expensieve
(formula one cars are made out of it).

Try learning how to bounce the paddle on the surface of the
water and catching it. Also perfect your Shudder Rudders as
they look really cool. Get a general feel of the paddle eg.
rolling it, catching it, swinging it round your neck etc.
After sometime you'll be able to do paddle trick sequences
almost seamlessly, Very old skool :)

We used to have a pretty handy weir at Chelsea but since
they turned off the turbines at Chelsea Power Station it's
disapeared. Shame, there you could really practice your high
brace turns.


 

offline Xeron from London (United Kingdom) on 2005-06-18 13:45 [#01637273]
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Child810: has your kayak arrived yet?


 

offline goDel from ɐpʎǝx (Seychelles) on 2005-06-18 14:06 [#01637299]
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no kayaking here, but rowing instead.

me:
(picture taken at a 4.5km race...and i won!!!)


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offline Xeron from London (United Kingdom) on 2005-06-18 14:09 [#01637303]
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well done, that why the title said "and watersports in
general"

Rowing is a sport whereas kayking is a past time.


 

offline Xeron from London (United Kingdom) on 2005-06-20 04:55 [#01638452]
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I hope all you budding Water Sports enthusiast out there are
going to be taking advantage of th Great weather, today i'm
going to go for the full vert,.

The Thames is going to be really fast today dew to the rain,
fast flowing river only means more thrills.

Go out and enjoy yourselves :)


 

offline child810 from boston (United States) on 2005-06-28 20:12 [#01647113]
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Yeah I picked up my kayak last weekend. It's sweet. Only got
to take it out once though. I'll take some pics soon. It's
nice and stable, and light. Can't wait to go out for a
longer trip.


 

offline Ceri JC from Jefferson City (United States) on 2005-06-29 04:09 [#01647280]
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I dunno, kayaking can be a sport. My brother won a long
distance race and I won a slalom at.

One the subject of watersports, my gf is showing an interest
in windsurfing. I took her sailing for the first time a
couple of months ago and she picked it up really quickly.
Hopefully she'll get into windsurfing and we can go halves
on a board. One of our mates has a few boards and a vans so
we might get to do a weekend's windsurfing at some point
this summer.


 

offline Ceri JC from Jefferson City (United States) on 2005-06-29 04:09 [#01647281]
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*I won a slalom at* = 'I won a slalom at a regatta.'


 

offline Xeron from London (United Kingdom) on 2005-06-30 12:10 [#01649059]
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I've always wanted to try windsurfing but it's a treck to
the ocean and pointless on a river.

I've nearly got the vert nailed, it's really cool when your
just there vert in the water for ages. Try handrolling on
your week side ;)

I was around your area the other day, Bristol Open Day. If I
do get in i'm just going to be kayaking all 5 years of my
course :)


 

offline Xeron from London (United Kingdom) on 2005-07-02 06:10 [#01650592]
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Thats kool! makesure you take them and post them quick :P ;)


 

offline Xeron from London (United Kingdom) on 2005-11-07 09:04 [#01771990]
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oh just a bump with pictures of me sailing, none for
kayaking yet though :(


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offline Ceri JC from Jefferson City (United States) on 2005-11-07 09:20 [#01771994]
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I've windsurfed on lakes a few times, but I agree it's not
much fun without waves (it is 'surfing' after all...)


 

offline mimi on 2005-11-07 09:25 [#01771996]
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i bought waterskis at a garage sale several weeks ago but
then it got too cold to go out! now i have to wait for next
summer :(


 

offline Ceri JC from Jefferson City (United States) on 2005-11-07 09:31 [#01772000]
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A full length wetsuit, cag and a beer gut should see you
skiing all year round. I've not waterskied as such (I'm
rubbish on normal skis too), but having done it on a
windsurfing board (being towed by a powerboat) in midwinter,
it's definately tolerable.


 

offline Xeron from London (United Kingdom) on 2005-11-07 09:32 [#01772002]
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you could always migrate ;)

anyway here's a more recent pick of me:


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offline Ceri JC from Jefferson City (United States) on 2005-11-07 09:33 [#01772003]
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Are you using one of those "mini trapeze" handles on the
shroud?


 

offline mimi on 2005-11-07 09:33 [#01772005]
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hrmm..i do not think i can afford to get a wetsuit anytime
soon, at least not before the lakes freeze but it's
something to think about if i really take to this stuff next
summer.


 

offline Xeron from London (United Kingdom) on 2005-11-07 09:35 [#01772007]
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we managed to capsize those bosuns twice- a record!

and I came 3rd in a slalom contest over the summer; HRH the
Duke of Edinghborough gave out the prizes-i've met the
Queen's husband.


 

offline Xeron from London (United Kingdom) on 2005-11-07 09:37 [#01772009]
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no i'm being naughty and actually hanging on the shroud- the
winds were strong that day and everybody else had reefed up
their sails. Cowards.


 

offline Ceri JC from Jefferson City (United States) on 2005-11-07 09:45 [#01772013]
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Reefing is for saps and people with no self control; the
sailing equivalent of traction control. The mainsheet works
both ways- if you can't hold it/it's going too fast, LET THE
BLOODY THING OUT. There's no need to reef the sail and lose
power during times when the wind drops for a few seconds.

I hang off the shrouds too. Really hurts in saltwater if the
shrouds are frayed at all :)


 

offline Xeron from London (United Kingdom) on 2005-11-07 09:49 [#01772016]
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exactly- except I really hate letting out the sail while
close hauling (the reason we capsized lol). The power and
exhilaration of going on the side is awesome. I remeber once
having to sit on the outside of the hull in a topper cause I
was close hauling to the extreme (I sailed quite a bit
sitting on the side). Totally wicked.


 

offline Ceri JC from Jefferson City (United States) on 2005-11-07 09:59 [#01772029]
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I'd not recommend dumping it (let go completely, very
suddenly) if that's what you mean caused you to capsize ;-)


 

offline Xeron from London (United Kingdom) on 2005-11-07 13:54 [#01772238]
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no, actually what caused us to capsize was a slacking in the
wind resulting in our height above the water and our mass
being positioned on one side to accumalativly come crashing
down and causing the bosun to capsize ontop of us. Saying
this I did nearly manage a spectacular dry capsize- I
literally high jumped from sitting down and managed to grab
the outside of the hull (the bow started to begin to vert),
my weight and the algae though made me slide off :(.


 

offline Xeron from London (United Kingdom) on 2006-01-03 08:27 [#01810913]
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you will alll LOVE


 

offline euphonicfilter from illadelphia (United States) on 2006-01-03 08:40 [#01810941]
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i enjoy sailing, kayaking, canoeing, and fishing...


 

offline euphonicfilter from illadelphia (United States) on 2006-01-03 08:42 [#01810947]
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LOL...that video is great!


 

offline Xeron from London (United Kingdom) on 2006-01-03 08:44 [#01810952]
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I know- I can't wait to go to |Arkansas and do that.

I've done it before on a small scale though.


 

offline euphonicfilter from illadelphia (United States) on 2006-01-03 08:46 [#01810957]
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id do it while skiing...not a good enough kayaker to trust
id be ok through that though


 

offline Ceri JC from Jefferson City (United States) on 2006-01-03 08:47 [#01810958]
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Ha ha, I've done that (wind drops and then you can't shift
your weight back in quick enough). Spectacular if you're out
on a trapeze. Gotta keep one eye on the ripples on the water
to read the wind before it drops.

I'm going to be doing a lot more watersports again now I've
moved back to Wales.


 

offline Xeron from London (United Kingdom) on 2006-01-03 08:51 [#01810965]
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:D- may come and visit you if my club decides on another
trip :P. Check out the link- you'll laugh your head off.

I never thought of reading the ripples, thanks for the tip.-
I'd probably be too enthralled at the speed we're going at
to take much attention ;)+ capsizing a bosun is quite a bit
of a joke.


 

offline Ceri JC from Jefferson City (United States) on 2006-01-03 09:14 [#01810997]
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RE: The ripples, it appears as darker areas of water, moving
at a faster pace over the surface than the normal
(tidal/general water flow) ripples. You can also use it to
gauge when wind is about to hit and get ready to lean, so it
doesn't catch you off guard (as well as the vice/versa
method already described)


 

offline Xeron from London (United Kingdom) on 2006-01-03 09:19 [#01811006]
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cool- thanks, wealth of knowledge you truly are.


 

offline Ceri JC from Jefferson City (United States) on 2006-01-03 09:29 [#01811013]
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Don't mention it. I was only taught that a couple of months
back, it seems like such a fundamental bit of theory, but so
many people, myself included, go years without picking it
up.


 

offline earthleakage from tell the world you're winning on 2007-12-08 21:01 [#02152326]
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if u wanna fake yr death, make a fuckin effort


 

offline mylittlesister from ...wherever (United Kingdom) on 2007-12-08 21:02 [#02152329]
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i hope you saw 'have i got news for you?' tonight - many
canoe related laughs.


 

offline earthleakage from tell the world you're winning on 2007-12-08 21:05 [#02152331]
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i love brooker. i wanna have his babies. dee has decided not
to be a tit anymore and that's great. it's never been
better.


 

offline mylittlesister from ...wherever (United Kingdom) on 2007-12-08 21:09 [#02152335]
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and the teaming up of ian hislop and russell brand was
fairly hilarious/uncomfortable.

paul merton is always good - need to hear him more on 'just
a minute'


 

offline earthleakage from tell the world you're winning on 2007-12-08 21:15 [#02152339]
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merton does 50% of jams as just clement freud who is just as
good if not better. i have last 3 series, if u want some
just say.


 

offline mylittlesister from ...wherever (United Kingdom) on 2007-12-08 21:20 [#02152344]
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i need some smoke to really enjoy it.

a night of smoking, then just a minute, followed by
petercook&dudley moore = a good night!


 

offline earthleakage from tell the world you're winning on 2007-12-08 21:28 [#02152346]
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jam is STILL the best show on 4. i hope it carries on after
i kill parsons.


 

offline mylittlesister from ...wherever (United Kingdom) on 2007-12-08 21:30 [#02152349]
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haha, everyone hates parsons, but there needs to be
something bad about the show.


 

offline earthleakage from tell the world you're winning on 2007-12-08 21:34 [#02152351]
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he reminds me of forsyth on SCD. oblivious to his own
pointless embarrassing anecdotes mainly based upon senality.


 

offline oyvinto on 2007-12-08 21:41 [#02152360]
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i'm planning on buying a kayak of the wide and stable type,
to go fly fishing in semi-slow rivers. something like the
dagger delta perhaps.


 


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