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Chihiro
from twins land on 2005-06-04 16:28 [#01622880]
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do you reckon music has to has a structure to appeal? do you think it's necessary for a piece of music to have that to be beautyfull?
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axion
from planet rock (Sweden) on 2005-06-04 16:29 [#01622881]
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yes of course!
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mappatazee
from ¨y¨z¨| (Burkina Faso) on 2005-06-04 16:32 [#01622882]
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fuck my ass!
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DeadEight
from vancouver (Canada) on 2005-06-04 16:41 [#01622886]
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no.
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_gvarek_
from next to you (Poland) on 2005-06-04 16:45 [#01622887]
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I love structured repetition in music, but it`s not necessary. And what about improvisation?
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2005-06-04 16:49 [#01622893]
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structure no structure..doesn't matter as long as it sounds good :)
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penexpers
from Toronto (Canada) on 2005-06-04 16:50 [#01622894]
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spot on
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Gwely Mernans
from 23rd century entertainment (Canada) on 2005-06-04 16:53 [#01622895]
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structure is good.
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DeadEight
from vancouver (Canada) on 2005-06-04 16:56 [#01622898]
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the question wasn't which do you prefer, it was do you think it's necessary.
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CS2x
from London (United Kingdom) on 2005-06-04 16:59 [#01622900]
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It depends on the track. Any structure, not matter how loose, can sound good if the composer has a good handle over things imo. However, I think a track can fall apart if the structure is annoying or unsatisfying (however much I love "Spokes" by Plaid, I've always found some of the tracks to have really irritating structures.)
My favorite pieces are those 20-minute floaty ambient pieces from the 70s by bands like Tangerine Dream. Personally, if the structure of a piece is too predictable, I find it boring.
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Taxidermist
from Black Grass on 2005-06-04 20:45 [#01623019]
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Music always has a structure. Are you asking whether it needs to be 4/4? If its not structured, then its noise (I mean that literally, not the 'oh crap... thats not music, thats more like noise' kinda way that plastic people use).
Noise can be enjoyable too. Its just not music.
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DeadEight
from vancouver (Canada) on 2005-06-04 21:48 [#01623026]
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so would you not classify a drone as not music?
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earthleakage
from tell the world you're winning on 2005-06-04 22:00 [#01623031]
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i was about to say exactly the same thing. music by definition is structured.
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Taxidermist
from Black Grass on 2005-06-04 22:12 [#01623032]
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Well, if its a drone from a natural source, or generated accidentally I would consider it a noise. But if it was programmed, and uses a certain ammount of skill or experience from the person making it, then it has a structure. Generally, the programmer/musician is structuring the noise to sound the way they want. It might not be 4/4, but its still a structure.
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