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_awt_
from Malmö (Sweden) on 2005-06-01 16:07 [#01619338]
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heya, im graduating in 2 weeks and therefore my kind mother has decided to buy me an p4 laptop, 3,2ghz, 1024ram with a 100gb harddrive.
Im planning to use this laptop 90% for music making, sounds like a good idea ?
I know there are more powerfull computers out there these days and allot of people have recommended me mac's, the problem is that this laptop is bought with one of those "special offers" from my mom's work, so I had to choose from a few different packages.
That sucks offcourse but I choosed the most powerfull package and now im hoping to turn that into an proper (or good) music making computer.
I know that I will need to optimize xp for music making, i have several guides for that so it shouldn't be a problem, im also aware that i will need to get an good external soundcard but besides from that, does anyone have any tips for tweaking this computer into an problem free clean music making comp ?
I will listen to every advice, i have never owned a laptop before so if there's anything special i need to think about when it comes to the format of this thing then tell me.
Also, what do you think of the spec's ? is that enough !? if not i guess im screwed but to my eyes it looked suprisingly good for a latop.
Another tricky part is soundcards, I dont have a shitload of cash so i wont be buying any of these super elite studio standard cards or anything, im thinking in the line of edirol, m-audio or so, been looking at firewire410 but heard that it's micpreams was pretty crap, and even if i dont want to pay a shitload i still would like decent stuff.
Have anyone used edirol's fa-66 ?, the fa-66 seems to fill my needs but at the same time i like the idea of the fw410 to have two headphone out's with seperate controllers, would be fun to make some stuff with a friend at times and so.
Any other card recommended in that style ?
im suprised if anyone can take reading all this, but im quite exited about this so it actualy felt good just writing.
Anyway, i will listen to all recommendations
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isnieZot
from pooptown (Belgium) on 2005-06-01 16:16 [#01619353]
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if you want to buy an external soundcard buy one with USB 2.0 or firewire. usb 1.0 MAY cause some troubles if you want to record allot of tracks at one time. also, the harddrive is kinda important for making music. I dunno how many rpm your hard drive is but most are 4500 or something? that MAY also give you some troubles. you can connect an external (faster) hdd if it would give you troubles.
and for keeping your laptop stable I recommend: -don't surft with it on the net (or as safe, little as possible)
-don't use cracks (or as few as possible :) ) -when playing live. put your laptop on something that absorbs vibrations. a piece of rubber or something.
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isnieZot
from pooptown (Belgium) on 2005-06-01 16:17 [#01619354]
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also a p4 laptop, 3,2ghz, 1024ram with a 100gb harddrive. is more then enough for music production.
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_awt_
from Malmö (Sweden) on 2005-06-01 16:30 [#01619377]
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ah thanks a bunch, ive been looking at various hard drives ately as this one was only a 100gb, i felt that i needed some more if not least for backing projects up.
The rpm of the hard drive on the laptop im getting is 4200rpm =/ at the edge of too little then i guess.
Either way I was looking at various proper external drives so im sure that wont be a problem, those little fuckers are sinking in prize damn fast too it seems.
Also, for the audiocard I was planning to get either a fw card or usb2.0, Ive heard by tech geeks that usb2.0 is a bit sharper then firewire but on the other hand ive not found that many usb2.0 supported cards and i will only have 4usb ports on the laptop so perhaps going with a firewire card would be the best.
Luckely I wont afford a new card untill another month so i got some time to think and look up various cards, haha, waiting sucks.
The past years ive been on an 1.6ghz, 512ram old basic computer with ME! and it have been working fine (can you belive that, no) besides from the power, it cant drive the amount of stuff i want etc wich is quite frustrating, so if im being realistic, configure this laptop into a proper music making comp shouldn't be half as hard as configuring the old fucker ive worked with for so long.
Either way, im nervous about it so wish me good luck =D! ow and thanks for the tips, especially the hard drive part as i did not really know about that, was only planning to get an external one for more space.. so now i need to check up drives more properly too, loads of endless fun!
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mc_303_beatz
from Glasgow, Scotland on 2005-06-01 16:35 [#01619386]
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I've got 40Gb, fine by me!
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2005-06-01 16:40 [#01619396]
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erh... you shouldn't get a p4 processor for a laptop. pentium is a desktop-processor, which means it makes lots and lots of heat when it operates at 3,2 ghz, which it never does in a laptop due to the heat. Intel M is what you want. They'll have lower hz specs, but they are buit differently, so they perform as good as a desktop 3,2 ghz would in a desktop in a laptop.
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virginpusher
from County Clare on 2005-06-01 16:42 [#01619399]
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Whats the story on those field recorders we were discussing. I am going to need one
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_awt_
from Malmö (Sweden) on 2005-06-01 16:47 [#01619404]
Points: 2202 Status: Regular | Followup to Drunken Mastah: #01619396
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I didn't want to know that!
I cant change the order or anything now, so i hope this wont be as bad as it sounds.
fuck! hmm, im not listening more to you now! =D
Ill just have to wait untill i get it and see how it behaves, if it feels bad i guess ill have to return it or something, i really dont hope so though..
why did you do this =)
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2005-06-01 16:50 [#01619406]
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it won't be very bad, it just won't be 3,2 ghz unless you keep it in the freezer... I'm not sure how much lower the speed will be, but it probably isn't all that much...
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_awt_
from Malmö (Sweden) on 2005-06-01 16:54 [#01619412]
Points: 2202 Status: Regular | Followup to Drunken Mastah: #01619406
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i see, ill go by the saying "if it feels good it is good" and ill just hope it feels good.
I will have what you said in mind though, perhaps i will buy one of those new super slim usb freezers!
now im in the mood for icecream!
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virginpusher
from County Clare on 2005-06-01 16:55 [#01619414]
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ANSWER ME~!!!!
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2005-06-01 16:56 [#01619417]
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just make sure you never put it on a flat surface without any access to air, and it should be ok...
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_awt_
from Malmö (Sweden) on 2005-06-01 17:01 [#01619420]
Points: 2202 Status: Regular | Followup to Drunken Mastah: #01619417
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i see, thanks a bunch for the tips, i suddently feel that i know allot more about laptops then i did 30 minutes ago!
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2005-06-01 17:02 [#01619422]
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you're welcome...
and.. answer virgin! hahaha!
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_awt_
from Malmö (Sweden) on 2005-06-01 17:08 [#01619432]
Points: 2202 Status: Regular | Followup to virginpusher: #01619399
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man, i was looking for a thread or something around here from you to me, missed your message in this thread, and thought you where retarded as you where writing to me on soulseek haha.
Now it's my turn, stop talking in the phone, answer me!
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stilaktive
from a place on 2005-06-01 17:20 [#01619467]
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"-don't use cracks (or as few as possible :) )"
that doesnt compute for me.
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cie jiks mawp
from motion to descend (Australia) on 2005-06-01 18:34 [#01619658]
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i have the firewire 410. the sound quality is fantastic. i recall the day i pulled out an audigy platnium card and connected the m-audio and donning headphones and it sounded very pure. I do get a bit of crackling every now and then specially when i use it for video editing. Overall it seems solid and its great aspect is its portability. The blue LED light is way to fucking bright on the front tho.
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stilaktive
from a place on 2005-06-01 18:46 [#01619673]
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that might just be the video driver thingies. i have a 410. i had that problem as well, yet when i ran cubase on Direct X it worked fine. then i got the new quicktime and everything seemed fine.
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