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offline extremeelvis from San Francisco (United States) on 2002-02-17 07:25 [#00090799]
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OK, now whether or not one agrees with musicians selling
their songs for advertising (or even composing songs for
commercials), doesn't anyone else have a hard time enjoying
some of his music after you've heard it on a commercial for
Seafirst Bank or Pirelli Tires?

The guy makes haunting, otherwordly music and then peddles
it out to every stupid fucking corporation, like he was a
common whore.

I find it harder to let my imagination follow his songs once
they've been put in a lame, narrow narrative context by
corporate advertising.

Anyone else have this problem or am I just betraying my
outre punk roots?



 

offline kalaim badkaama from Apt 512 in Gilmour Orbiter (Re on 2002-02-17 07:31 [#00090801]
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...


 

offline xlr from Boston (United States) on 2002-02-17 07:32 [#00090802]
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Has an aphex twin song been in a goodyear commercial or
something? The only one I know of is that anti-drug PSA.


 

offline xlr from Boston (United States) on 2002-02-17 07:33 [#00090803]
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ohh. pirelli. haven't seen it.


 

offline thegroover from Canada on 2002-02-17 07:39 [#00090804]
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who cares if an artist sells their songs to a corporation?


 

offline kalaim badkaama from Apt 512 in Gilmour Orbiter (Re on 2002-02-17 07:48 [#00090805]
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To understand What Elvis is talking about, yu must learn and
understand the "Punk Spirit"... Known as NOh FEE UUH TURh,
in the ancient language Keupon.
Take this young aprentice. here's the tools that'll help you
on yer way.
A pair of Dock martens, A beer, Sissors for yer hairz, ...
good luck



 

offline BaronVonPickleF from United States on 2002-02-17 08:02 [#00090807]
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I sell life insurance for the devil on weekends !!!!!!THE
BARON HAS SPOKEN!!!!!!!


 

offline marlowe from Antarctica on 2002-02-17 10:34 [#00090820]
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i hate corporate sell-outs; they should be subjected to
extreme sexual violence at the hands of the proletariat and
then chopped up and stuffed down the throats of swelling CEO
motherfuckers


 

offline corngrower from the fertile grounds of Iowa, w (United States) on 2002-02-17 21:48 [#00091254]
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I think it's stupid when people stop liking the work of an
artist simply because they sell some of their work to be
used by a coorperation. It's their work and they can yeild
it as they please, and I'm not gonna stop enjoying their
work just for that reason. It's the same when people stop
liking an underground artist when they start getting more
well known. You should like them for their work, not how
they chose to yeild it.


 

offline Darth manchu from Cambridge (United Kingdom) on 2002-02-17 21:51 [#00091258]
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Has anyone heard the main theme song for eurosport news GB?
I really like that song, its amazing!


 

offline extremeelvis from San Francisco (United States) on 2002-02-19 04:37 [#00093515]
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I guess I shouldn't be surprised that noone bats an eye
these days when an artist licenses his/her music for a
commercial. When Nike used The Beatles' "Revolution" for a
sneaker ad in the 80s, it caused a huge debate. Starting
sometime in the early 90s, this whole business lost its
stigma. Now, everybody does it. Everyone's been coopted.
Everyone's sold themselves out. From William Burroughs doing
a Gap ad to Chumbawamba selling Japanese whiskey.

At least, Nick Drake & John Lennon died before they could
see their timeless music pimped out to sell VWs and tennis
shoes to yuppies.

I happen to like Richard D. James "for his work" as
corngrower says, but he can't expect me to HEAR the music
the same way after I've associated it in my mind with tires
or mutual funds. It is prostituting music that I consider
sacred.

And it aint like Richard James or Moby or any of these other
shills needs another dime.

I'm curious where those of you who aren't bothered by this
practice think the line stops. Should it stop at Aphex
Twin's obviously hallucinogen-inspired music being used to
sell an establishment anti-drug campaign? Or maybe I'm
missing the point and its funny & hip for ATs music to be
used this way?

Either way he profits off of right-wing anti drug hysteria.
The joke, it would seem, is on us.



 

offline JOB from St. John's (Canada) on 2002-02-19 04:45 [#00093522]
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Ok lets review:

"Hello jonny music maker i'm joe blow from some hudge
company heres a load of cash can we use some of your song in
a commercial?"

answer 1:
"Why no that would be wrong joe blow because my fans wouldnt
like it if i made money by letting you use my song in a
commercial, hell i dont actuallly think for myself my fans
all do that, and i dont want to piss them off because i
really care what they think! Sorry!"

answer 2:

"Shit i make music, u come to ME and offer ME money to use
it in a commercial. Wow not a bad deal, geez i'm sure ANYONE
would agree to this, if not they'd be stupid!"


 

offline AMinal from Toronto (Canada) on 2002-02-19 04:57 [#00093525]
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who cares if he sells his music AFTER it made to a
company..

what should really matter is if he let profitablity affect
the music itself...

like if he actually made a song w/ commercial interests in
mind.. and let that affect it so he could sell it..
then its not a pure expression of art anymore.. its been
tainted

but if he makes the music HE wants to make, just for
himself.. and then they happen to want to pay him so then
can use it in an ad.. then who cares, the musics already
been made, theres no way greed can affect it, know what i
mean?

IMO



 

offline JOB from St. John's (Canada) on 2002-02-19 05:03 [#00093529]
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if it sounds good its good

if it sounds bad its bad


 

offline AMinal from Toronto (Canada) on 2002-02-19 05:07 [#00093531]
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ya i agree JOB...



 

offline JOB from St. John's (Canada) on 2002-02-19 05:09 [#00093532]
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if for some reason a man threw cats at drums and the sound
produced was to my liking then

its a good song!


 

offline JOB from St. John's (Canada) on 2002-02-19 05:09 [#00093533]
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if a man sat down and for 50 years worked on a song that he
put all his heart and soul into and sacrificed all his time
to and it sounds bad

its a bad song!


 

offline elusive from detroit (United States) on 2002-02-19 05:12 [#00093534]
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ummm

who gives a crap

maybe he's doing it on purpose so that use listeners will
see it on TV and be like "whoa" and the other 99% of the
population won't think a thing of it when they see the
commercial.

and i wonder how much they actually pay him to use it, im
sure its not THAT much, who knows maybe he's doing it for
like, subliminal reasons.

Who gives a shit...


 

offline JOB from St. John's (Canada) on 2002-02-19 05:18 [#00093536]
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i know

some guy comes to your door and offers you a wad of cash to
use a song, this requires you to do what... sign a paper and
hmm what else, nothing, maby send them the song. Geez if i
could make cash like that u think i'd say no because of u
weiners?


 

offline marlowe from Antarctica on 2002-02-19 05:24 [#00093538]
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JOB are you a member of the GOP? does your father sell
insurance? is your mother a suburban alcoholic? do you
friends say "ya" a lot? or, worse, are you just imitating a
dumb middle-class capitalist mindset?


 

offline AMinal from Toronto (Canada) on 2002-02-19 05:32 [#00093543]
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HA!!haha...



 

offline JOB from St. John's (Canada) on 2002-02-19 05:36 [#00093546]
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no c its called, wow it sounds good so hmm its good, orrrr
hey that sounds bad so its bad. I dont like making things
more complicated then they have to be, and why should rdj
care what we think?


 

offline acyl18 from new haven (United States) on 2002-02-19 05:39 [#00093549]
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I agree that selling music to corporations for them to use
to help them sell things to people is little more than
whoring your music... Greed very much affects it, because,
like EElvis said, you will now associate that song with the
ad (in addition to its original meaning to you). To me this
cheapens the art form, bastardizes the song, sends a message
of endorsement from the artist, who represents all of
his/her fans, that these huge corporations are 'ok', or even
'cool', when in fact they are doing their best to homogenize
the planet, make shitloads of cash, exploit some workers
(that can be sweatshoppers OR the poor fuckers in the
cubicles- someone you know maybe?), fuck up our environment,
and have us believe that we are dependent upon them, that
they are necessary! FUCKERS!

Now, this may be a sweeping generalization, and Pirelli
isn't exactly the devil incarnate, but the principle remains
the same...

So, who's your sugar daddy? Who's pulling your strings when
you license a song out? Who's not being affected by greed?
Pisses me right off.


 

offline JOB from St. John's (Canada) on 2002-02-19 05:40 [#00093550]
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"TO each his own"

but yeah either way if you were put in his shows would u
turn down easy money? honestly people.


 

offline Ceri JC from Jefferson City (United States) on 2002-02-19 08:35 [#00093670]
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The only song that's been messed up for me is "kesson
daslef" after it was used in a "cops" type show I now get an
image of a helicoptor spiralling away from a dead body. I
prefered it when it was more abstract.


 

offline marlowe from Antarctica on 2002-02-19 10:53 [#00093745]
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"to each his own" <--- try applying THAT to a western
society

and i would say "fuck you" if someone offered me lots of
money to whore my music -- maybe you don't have but don't
apply your own weakness to us...

and like i said in a previous post, it is not the
corporation's money he really gets, but the downtrodden and
overtaxed and financially raped people's money that the
fatcat CEo's etc live on.


 

offline KEN from BIRMINGHAM (United Kingdom) on 2002-02-19 11:41 [#00093780]
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rich dont give a fuck and neither do i


 

offline Ceri JC from Jefferson City (United States) on 2002-02-19 11:50 [#00093790]
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Why, are you rich? ;)


 


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