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OK, now whether or not one agrees with musicians selling their songs for advertising (or even composing songs for commercials), doesn't anyone else have a hard time enjoying some of his music after you've heard it on a commercial for Seafirst Bank or Pirelli Tires? The guy makes haunting, otherwordly music and then peddles it out to every stupid fucking corporation, like he was a common whore. I find it harder to let my imagination follow his songs once they've been put in a lame, narrow narrative context by corporate advertising. Anyone else have this problem or am I just betraying my outre punk roots? |
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Has an aphex twin song been in a goodyear commercial or something? The only one I know of is that anti-drug PSA. |
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ohh. pirelli. haven't seen it. |
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who cares if an artist sells their songs to a corporation? |
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To understand What Elvis is talking about, yu must learn and understand the "Punk Spirit"... Known as NOh FEE UUH TURh, in the ancient language Keupon. Take this young aprentice. here's the tools that'll help you on yer way. A pair of Dock martens, A beer, Sissors for yer hairz, ... good luck |
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I sell life insurance for the devil on weekends !!!!!!THE BARON HAS SPOKEN!!!!!!! |
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i hate corporate sell-outs; they should be subjected to extreme sexual violence at the hands of the proletariat and then chopped up and stuffed down the throats of swelling CEO motherfuckers |
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I think it's stupid when people stop liking the work of an artist simply because they sell some of their work to be used by a coorperation. It's their work and they can yeild it as they please, and I'm not gonna stop enjoying their work just for that reason. It's the same when people stop liking an underground artist when they start getting more well known. You should like them for their work, not how they chose to yeild it. |
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Has anyone heard the main theme song for eurosport news GB? I really like that song, its amazing! |
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I guess I shouldn't be surprised that noone bats an eye these days when an artist licenses his/her music for a commercial. When Nike used The Beatles' "Revolution" for a sneaker ad in the 80s, it caused a huge debate. Starting sometime in the early 90s, this whole business lost its stigma. Now, everybody does it. Everyone's been coopted. Everyone's sold themselves out. From William Burroughs doing a Gap ad to Chumbawamba selling Japanese whiskey. At least, Nick Drake & John Lennon died before they could see their timeless music pimped out to sell VWs and tennis shoes to yuppies. I happen to like Richard D. James "for his work" as corngrower says, but he can't expect me to HEAR the music the same way after I've associated it in my mind with tires or mutual funds. It is prostituting music that I consider sacred. And it aint like Richard James or Moby or any of these other shills needs another dime. I'm curious where those of you who aren't bothered by this practice think the line stops. Should it stop at Aphex Twin's obviously hallucinogen-inspired music being used to sell an establishment anti-drug campaign? Or maybe I'm missing the point and its funny & hip for ATs music to be used this way? Either way he profits off of right-wing anti drug hysteria. The joke, it would seem, is on us. |
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Ok lets review: "Hello jonny music maker i'm joe blow from some hudge company heres a load of cash can we use some of your song in a commercial?" answer 1: "Why no that would be wrong joe blow because my fans wouldnt like it if i made money by letting you use my song in a commercial, hell i dont actuallly think for myself my fans all do that, and i dont want to piss them off because i really care what they think! Sorry!" answer 2: "Shit i make music, u come to ME and offer ME money to use it in a commercial. Wow not a bad deal, geez i'm sure ANYONE would agree to this, if not they'd be stupid!" |
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who cares if he sells his music AFTER it made to a company.. what should really matter is if he let profitablity affect the music itself... like if he actually made a song w/ commercial interests in mind.. and let that affect it so he could sell it.. then its not a pure expression of art anymore.. its been tainted but if he makes the music HE wants to make, just for himself.. and then they happen to want to pay him so then can use it in an ad.. then who cares, the musics already been made, theres no way greed can affect it, know what i mean? IMO |
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if it sounds good its good if it sounds bad its bad |
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ya i agree JOB... |
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if for some reason a man threw cats at drums and the sound produced was to my liking then its a good song! |
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if a man sat down and for 50 years worked on a song that he put all his heart and soul into and sacrificed all his time to and it sounds bad its a bad song! |
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ummm who gives a crap maybe he's doing it on purpose so that use listeners will see it on TV and be like "whoa" and the other 99% of the population won't think a thing of it when they see the commercial. and i wonder how much they actually pay him to use it, im sure its not THAT much, who knows maybe he's doing it for like, subliminal reasons. Who gives a shit... |
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i know some guy comes to your door and offers you a wad of cash to use a song, this requires you to do what... sign a paper and hmm what else, nothing, maby send them the song. Geez if i could make cash like that u think i'd say no because of u weiners? |
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JOB are you a member of the GOP? does your father sell insurance? is your mother a suburban alcoholic? do you friends say "ya" a lot? or, worse, are you just imitating a dumb middle-class capitalist mindset? |
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HA!!haha... |
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no c its called, wow it sounds good so hmm its good, orrrr hey that sounds bad so its bad. I dont like making things more complicated then they have to be, and why should rdj care what we think? |
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I agree that selling music to corporations for them to use to help them sell things to people is little more than whoring your music... Greed very much affects it, because, like EElvis said, you will now associate that song with the ad (in addition to its original meaning to you). To me this cheapens the art form, bastardizes the song, sends a message of endorsement from the artist, who represents all of his/her fans, that these huge corporations are 'ok', or even 'cool', when in fact they are doing their best to homogenize the planet, make shitloads of cash, exploit some workers (that can be sweatshoppers OR the poor fuckers in the cubicles- someone you know maybe?), fuck up our environment, and have us believe that we are dependent upon them, that they are necessary! FUCKERS! Now, this may be a sweeping generalization, and Pirelli isn't exactly the devil incarnate, but the principle remains the same... So, who's your sugar daddy? Who's pulling your strings when you license a song out? Who's not being affected by greed? Pisses me right off. |
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"TO each his own" but yeah either way if you were put in his shows would u turn down easy money? honestly people. |
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The only song that's been messed up for me is "kesson daslef" after it was used in a "cops" type show I now get an image of a helicoptor spiralling away from a dead body. I prefered it when it was more abstract. |
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"to each his own" <--- try applying THAT to a western society and i would say "fuck you" if someone offered me lots of money to whore my music -- maybe you don't have but don't apply your own weakness to us... and like i said in a previous post, it is not the corporation's money he really gets, but the downtrodden and overtaxed and financially raped people's money that the fatcat CEo's etc live on. |
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rich dont give a fuck and neither do i |
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Why, are you rich? ;) |
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