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we all know that afx is very influent and of course very talented, but... can someone explain in what ways he actually innovated when it comes to music? (or did he?) also, ive heard SAW II refered to as being extremely influential... why was it so important? im afriad i haven't been into electronica long enough to be able to follow the advances, and what (if any) afx has been responsible for.. |
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None, you'll soon learn there is tons of shit better than AFX out there. TONS of it. Aphex is more like the gateway into other music. |
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Aminal: Richard D. James {aphex twin, causitc window, polygonwindow, AFX, the aphex twin, RDJ} is known to be very influential because he started out at a young age, around 14 making his own equipment, modifin' original equipmen and bought equipment to get the pefrect "analogue sounds". He was coming out with music that was totally different from all the other well known electronic at the time. With various releases he cought peoples attention, because well... sometimes it was just SO different and in cases such as Ventolin, just so damn weird. Not only that, but he used different styles, such as acid, or hardcore, even metal on Come To Daddy, ambient, really fuckin' weird stuff. He did not spawn the music known as "IDM" Kraftwerk and some other crazy band did, but I cant remember his name, he was/is in jail now. He only promoted it a lot. I guess you could say he made it well known. As for SAWII because ambient is usually something done only by people who stick to ambient, he just made this double CD Ambient Works II and it was a hit. A classic in the ambient community. It just showed that it can be done, and that simplicity doesnt mean boring. |
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the fact that hes a "gateway" into other music is important...he took experimental electronic music..and brought it to the masses..well..as close to the masses as its going to get..but thats still pretty important...i think its pretty safe to say that most of the people who are into this type of music ..and a lot of the newer artists making it...got into it through aphex so yeah...there is a lot out there that is better than aphex right now...but you have to remember..he was laying the blueprints for a lot of current "idm" 10+ years ago... |
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But he wasnt. Kraftwerk was. |
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i believe that your opinion is quite absurd aperson :) simply because if it weren't for him... you would not be wasting your time writing crap like "there is tons of shit better than AFX out there"... umm right. getting back to the subject.... aphex influenced me... he influenced my friends, he influenced punk, emo, Radiohead, everyone!! but let's not go on w/out saying that Aphex was influenced by a fuck-load of people too. I think what inspires him is what counts. He cares about his real friends more than he does about anything else. That's why he makes his music, isn't it? |
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He just says that me makes music for himself... he is a prick in real life for sure. But whatever who cares. |
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Oh really? What's to say that because RDJ wasn't there Richard Devine would have a different style. Now Squarepusher might've taken a different path if it weren't for RDJ, but I seriously doubt it influenced most of the 'IDM' scene. |
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i see... thanks so did he invent "drill n bass"? or that sort of "aphex acid" type music? (sorry, i dont know if it even has a proper title...) but i mean taht really harsh sounding, fast type of music... or, did he pioneer any specific techniques taht u can think of? |
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Being a gateway is very important... he does everything well. The Beatles of electronics! BOC have NO range, Autechre have NO range... you get slow, beautiful songs from BOC and, well... AUTECHRE tracks from Autechre... can't really describe them. ;-) But they certainly aren't very varied... Aphex is just a cornucopia of styles, THAT'S what really gets my attention from artists, their willingness to do EVERYTHING. You won't see Autechre do a ''Milkman'' or a ''Little Funny Man'', because they're pretentious chicken shits. :-) He HAS been a gateway for me, into other styles... and that's BECAUSE he's done so many styles!!! That's fucking important! |
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i think he best utilized all the "idm" styles without making it sound dumb or used to sound stupid. |
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well yeah...kraftwerk are at the root of pretty much all forms of electronic dance music..i mean that aphex was taking influences from people like kraftwerk and brian eno..and making something that was different from things that had come before as well as the stuff that was being heard at that time...and a lot of the people who became associated with the whole "idm" thing later on in turn were influenced by aphex...squarepusher for example |
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Squarepusher was doing the Drill N' Bass before AFX was, and acid music was around far before AFX was too.... Kraftwerk pretty much invented "IDM" {as much as I dislike that term}, Aphex Twin just helped people get to know it and its surroundings, people like him a lot and say that he influenced him, but I highly doubt that there are tons of people out there into making records because he is alive. |
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Chcuk Berry was the root of The Beatles... he was the innovator. Of course, the Beatles stomped him into dust, no contest. Aphex is ten times better than Kraftwerk... much more exciting and fun. I always find a way to drag the Beatles into everything. ;-) |
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Just read the FAQs I am, there are so many facts I had no ideia of. Hah yes my sweet Kraftwerk that -Robot song is still damn great and they are still kicking it. |
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true...squarepusher was doing drill n bass before aphex..but he was doing other things that led up to doing drill n bass ...he even says in interviews that aphex inspired a lot of his early work...he said that a lot of his early tracks were reworks of old afx tracks and more recently..people like cex admit that their entry into this type of music was through aphex of course no one was influenced solely by aphex...he was just one of many influences for a lot of artists |
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this is kinda off track a bit but i noticed how one of you said something about bringing IDM to the masses...or about as close to the masses at it will get... that reminded me that someone on here the other night said that aphex was too 'mainstream' for that person...i think thats a load of crap...i had never heard aphex or of any IDM before 12th grade... my friend got me into aphex, not tv or radio, nothing mainstream... but aphex definately is a gateway to other IDM, he influenced me to listen to squarepusher, autechre, the orb, b.o.c., plaid, etc........... |
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ive never heard of the term "idm" before aphex twin.. and NO ONE i know has heard of the term "idm" before.. (even 2 djs i know!) and (i think ive mentioned this about a hundred times on this MB, but:) i found out about Aphex on my own on the internet, through squarpusher... i dont know anyone else who listens to him.. only 2 people have even heard of him.. |
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i meant: i only KNOW 2 people taht listen to him.. |
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Someone mentioned that Aphex was inspired by other musicians. I remember reading in an interview RDJ saying that he never listened to anything when he was younger, and these days he only rarely listened to Squarepusher and Luke Vibert and that was it. Might have my facts mixed up, but that kind of makes it sound like he didn't take on many musical influences at all... |
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yeah...when he was real young tommo...but when he got older he got into dance music..like kraftwerk and whatnot...he lists a bunch of artists in the aritificial intelligence comp liner notes..he also went to a lot of raves..he talks about writing down the names of records a certain dj played in that interview he did with grant in urb |
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i still prefer Ae over Aphx |
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the biggest things RDJ brought to electronic music were verstality and ability to not take anyoe or anything seriously including himself...before him electronic music was getting stuck in a kind of rut and the only variety was the bpm's on the drummachines...RDJ brought in the extremems that were lacking..extremely harsh abrasive stuff sitting side by side with gentle quiet and pretty tunes though might be common place now they weren't back then.. |
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afx is the man period. and probably aphex did drill and bass years before sp. but didn't release until later. |
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agree with everything.... almost i think autechre are very good too, not as varied? ok maybe but equally evolutive (if this exists) |
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i reall ydon't think autechre has evolved. the just started using weird sounds... the music sounds like the same to me. only that i liked it better with the older sounds. |
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i see we have totally different taste... well thats good... as lecoeur would say it makes the world go round |
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