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KADO
from The Belafonte (United Kingdom) on 2005-04-17 09:47 [#01568151]
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Does anyone know if it is possible to disengage rewire when playing a track? I want to run Cubase and Ableton together but be able to open a different track in one of them, without stopping the sequencer in the other.
Any Ideas/Abuse welcome
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plaster
from splitska 10 on 2005-04-17 10:15 [#01568183]
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lol,what?
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plaster
from splitska 10 on 2005-04-17 10:16 [#01568186]
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as i understood...
you want to play a certain channel from one of the apps,let's say u got a drum track in ableton and you just want to preview it without hearing the other sounds?
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KADO
from The Belafonte (United Kingdom) on 2005-04-17 10:41 [#01568208]
Points: 1484 Status: Regular | Followup to plaster: #01568183
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Sorry if my initial post was confusing...it may just get worse...
Im playing a live set, I have 6 tracks I want to play, the elements of the tracks are shared between cubase and ableton live.
As I reach the end of a track I would like to disengage the rewire to cubase, leaving the elements in ableton running or visa versa.
That way I can load up the next track in cubase, resynchronise with ableton and start bringing in elements of the next track into the mix. Is this a really bizarre way to perform or do most people just set up one huge sequencer file?
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plaster
from splitska 10 on 2005-04-17 11:43 [#01568277]
Points: 4173 Status: Regular | Followup to KADO: #01568208
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ahh...live play. :)
well,the setup you have can be a roulette,because cubase can freeze,so i advise you to make it simple and easier for you.
just imagine you are now on stage and u have a live set,okay everything sounds nice untill you have to load parts from the other track in order to make an transition.
basicly a whole bunch of ppl who perform live usually export all the channels (into loops) from tracks and load em to ableton.
seriously,it will save you processor power and freezing ur laptop or pc cos you wanted to load a big file in cubase or live.
ableton is made for that...he alone is more that enuff for live play,so i sudgest you bounce all your channels from tracks and load em to ableton.
once u got everything loaded in u got 2 options...either make an altering arrangement to the tracks u will play press start and twiddle with knobs, or make small loops with which mark one position in a track.
let's say...u can make an intro,start of the track,break and so on.
basicly that's the most fun part with ableton...jamming. i know to export each channel with a sounds looped in like 2 to 4 bars and improvise on the go.
by that you will understant how the arrangement works and it will bring some new ideas to the fortcoming tracks.
jamming is (imo) the best possible way to understand the principles of music arrangement.
hope i made some things easier for you?
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Anus_Presley
on 2005-04-17 11:48 [#01568281]
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what about when a cat sees it's rreflection
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KADO
from The Belafonte (United Kingdom) on 2005-04-17 11:51 [#01568289]
Points: 1484 Status: Regular | Followup to plaster: #01568277
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Thanks for the advice plaster :) You are right cpu is critical to it being succesful, a system crash in front of a crowd would be rather bad.
Some of the sounds in my track depend on live effects tweeking that can't be captured properly in a loop (Reverb, dely tails etc). Hopefully they will be compatible with ableton aswell.
I will spend some time transferring everything into loops and have a go at it...I recently bought an evolution x-session controller which is good for jamming in ableton....I will let you know how I get on.
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plaster
from splitska 10 on 2005-04-17 12:22 [#01568305]
Points: 4173 Status: Regular | Followup to KADO: #01568289
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i used to export for like 2 hours per track..each channel,that being about 50 of em.
umm...if you have effects,just export the sound as much as it needs to have all of the fx on it...nothing to worry about.
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plaster
from splitska 10 on 2005-04-17 12:23 [#01568309]
Points: 4173 Status: Regular | Followup to Anus_Presley: #01568281
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my dog doesn't know who is in the mirror...i think it's the same as katz.
they probaly think it's another creature infront of them.
try asking your cat?
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Taxidermist
from Black Grass on 2005-04-17 18:57 [#01568561]
Points: 9958 Status: Lurker | Followup to KADO: #01568289
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A simpler sollution that running them as separate programs, and just load all the elements into different cubase songs that are open at once, and have the first ableton song muted in the mixer, with the rewire chanel it is running through on a low setting... then, as you are going to start the next song, unmute ableton, start turning up its channel, and progressively bring the channels that are sequenced in cubase down to nothing. Not only does this allow you to seamlessly crossfade (if done correctly), it adds the benifit of beatmatching your song for you. Unfortunately, you would have to pause for a second to start the third song, or else your cubase session might freeze up, and you risk loosing communication with your soundcard, or having one sound frozen in your audio buffer, or countless other bad things. Not good for a live setting. Another solution, would be to have a minute or so filler track cued up in winamp, so that when you want to stop the cubase song, and want to load the next one, you can just press play in winamp, then close the first cubase song and get everything cued up for the next cubase/reason volley.
That is how I would do what you seem to want to do.
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Taxidermist
from Black Grass on 2005-04-17 19:00 [#01568563]
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Or you could do the same as plaster suggested with ableton. Maybe I should read past the first post next time :S
If you want a seamless mix though, you could also do the winamp thing, only in between each ableton song.
Or you could have two songs worth of loops set up in ableton, and just arrange it through the first to the next.
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KADO
from The Belafonte (United Kingdom) on 2005-04-18 01:35 [#01568680]
Points: 1484 Status: Regular | Followup to Taxidermist: #01568561
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That sounds like a good system to use. I never thought of using winamp for filler tracks, that would work well, giving me plenty of time to cue up the next track. I will try the multiple song loading thing aswell, hopefully my cpu will handle it.
Cheers for the advice :)
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