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fleetmouse
from Horny for Truth on 2005-04-13 13:26 [#01563947]
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I have a 160 gig drive with a 10 gig XP install - the rest of it is logical drives in an extended partition.
I want to install Ubuntu but past experience tells me that Linux doesn't want to boot from a logical drive in an extended partition.
So I have a spare 120 gig drive I can set up as slave - would it be possible to put the boot loader on the 160 gig master and isntall Ubuntu on the 120 gig slave?
Excuse the techiness - I know there are friendly Linux people hereabouts.
obMusicalChat: untilted
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r40f
from qrters tea party on 2005-04-13 13:43 [#01563966]
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i am sorry to report that i don't know the answer to your question... my advice is don't install it because windows is waaay better. ;) where' shope?
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epohs
from )C: on 2005-04-13 13:45 [#01563970]
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fleetmouse is much more knowledgable about linux than i am.
i work by trial & error.
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fleetmouse
from Horny for Truth on 2005-04-13 14:01 [#01563994]
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Trial and error, eh? That's just crazy enough to work. Thanks!
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virginpusher
from County Clare on 2005-04-13 14:21 [#01564007]
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hahaha! that fits your avatar!
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fleetmouse
from Horny for Truth on 2005-04-13 22:29 [#01564452]
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That wasn't too painful - fastest most auto-configuring Linux install ever. So yeah apparently you can install on a slave as long as you let it write the bootloader to the master drive's mbr. Good old trial and error, what what?
I just had to install XMMS and configure it to use ESD and now I'm listening to some choons.
This is the first Linux install that recognized my M-audio 24/96 right away.
:: nerd bliss ::
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x0hx
from Lysdexia (United States) on 2005-04-14 01:29 [#01564481]
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Hav u tried Slax?? That shit is FHAT! Fits on a mini-CD, too
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epohs
from )C: on 2005-04-14 06:37 [#01564664]
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yeah, so far as i can see ubuntu is pretty awesome.
Rythmbox + gstreamer0.8-mad (for mp3 support) seems to be pretty good too. I've never really gotten XMMS's volume controls to work consistently, although, i think they did work pretty well in SuSE.
Synaptic is pretty much the shit too.
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Bob Mcbob
on 2005-04-14 06:42 [#01564668]
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haha father jack ;)
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Taxidermist
from Black Grass on 2005-04-14 06:45 [#01564670]
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I have problems accepting an operating system as a better alternative to another, if I am forced to think about it.
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r40f
from qrters tea party on 2005-04-14 06:46 [#01564671]
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the crazy volume controls going crazy all the time is a nightmare for sound recording. maybe i should try this rhythm box thing...
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fleetmouse
from Horny for Truth on 2005-04-14 06:51 [#01564675]
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There's a quote on the XMMS site to the effect of how much they hate ESD. I haven't had trouble but generally I leave XMMS all the way up and control the volume from the system volume - that way I don't get deafened if some other program decides to beep at me or set off a siren.
Synaptic is awesome indeed - all this is based on Debian apt-get, right? I've been able to locate and install everything I like from packages instead of pissing about compiling from tarballs.
Not sure how they're able to put together such an awesome distro for free - I'm going to donate them some moneys.
McBob - yeah everyone loves Father Jack - I wish the CBC would recycle the episodes again. I miss 'em.
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r40f
from qrters tea party on 2005-04-14 06:55 [#01564679]
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yeah, synaptic is great except it gives me errors it shouldn't. i have to figure out what i screwed up in the filey thing. i know it's probably my fault, though. but the program is great otherwise.
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fleetmouse
from Horny for Truth on 2005-04-14 06:59 [#01564683]
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Different OSes have different strengths - Windows's strength is that it's polished and easy to use, and everything mostly works out of the box. And there's tons of commercial grade software for it.
Linux's strength is that it's stable and secure, it's free, there's tons of great free software available including development tools, so people with the talent and inclination can become co-creators of the platform. And if Ubuntu is any indication it's starting to give Windows a run for its money in the polished and easy to use department too.
I think people who are snobby and insecure about how they run difficult leet software give Linux a bad name. But it's really good once you get up the learning curve and know a few tricks. It ain't rocket science.
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fleetmouse
from Horny for Truth on 2005-04-14 07:01 [#01564685]
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There's a single-slider volume control on the top toolbar panel that is borken. I don't know what that's about. I use the applications -> sound and video -> volume control and it works fine. Depending on the complexity of your sound card it can take some headscratching to figure out what control does what. They oughtta work on that.
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fleetmouse
from Horny for Truth on 2005-04-14 07:03 [#01564688]
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error parsing string "filey thing"
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epohs
from )C: on 2005-04-14 07:03 [#01564689]
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Yeah, it's all debian based, just more up to date and prettied up for teh noobs.
I'm dropping a donation as well.
This is also the first time I've really spent significant time in gnome, and I'm liking it. Quite a bit less cluttered than KDE.
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r40f
from qrters tea party on 2005-04-14 07:09 [#01564696]
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error parsing string? don't know it.
i thought the volume slider on the bar is the same program as Volume Control? they both open the same dialog. the sound is totally fucked up for me. it randomly (read: for reasons i don't understand) attenuates the sound and gets extremely quiet, then the input levels get extremely loud, then the main gets really really loud... i guess depending on what programs i try to use. i just think it's really counter-intuitive. when i had windows, the software had my soundcard configured almost perfectly out of the box - i never had to set a level on the software. it was beautiful.
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fleetmouse
from Horny for Truth on 2005-04-14 07:10 [#01564697]
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Yes! It's also the first time Gnome hasn't been a sluggish resource hog. They really worked on Nautilus - it used to be painfully slow reading big directories.
I used to like KDE for the more responsive desktop but I always ended up using GTK based apps - I guess because the QT widget libraries are not fully free, the better programmers tend to work with GTK.
Anyhoo nice to have the desktop and apps all under one roof, so to speak.
I haven't felt the urge yet to use IceWM or Windowmaker, which is surprising.
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fleetmouse
from Horny for Truth on 2005-04-14 07:17 [#01564705]
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I mean I don't know what filey thing you're talking about. Did you randomly traipse through system directories modifying and deleting files? La la la la, I liek to change things, la la la la... :D
About your volume control - go system -> preferences -> multimedia systems selector - are you using ESD for the default sink? ("Sink" is their odd term for where the sound gets output, I think)
Then go applications -> sound and video -> volume control -> file -> change device and select the name of your sound card instead of the chipset name. That's what I had to do to get the controls for my Audiophile to show. In the volume control you may also ahve to go edit -> preferences to select what controls you want displayed.
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r40f
from qrters tea party on 2005-04-14 07:29 [#01564725]
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woah! you are awesome. thanks a lot for your help.
as for the error filey thing, i was poking around in root and i saw this thing labelled "err_maximizer.s0 - never delete" and obviously i knew it had to be a nerd trick so i deleted it.
but seriously, it has to do with the sources.list for extra repositories. i just have to fool around with it some more so that it doesn't give me errors when i try to install certain programs. i'll figure out and ill find my frog.
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fleetmouse
from Horny for Truth on 2005-04-14 07:38 [#01564736]
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chmod 777 /usr/bin/hopkin
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fleetmouse
from Horny for Truth on 2005-04-14 07:39 [#01564738]
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oh that was bad, I mean chmod 755.
that's probably how you lost him in the first place.
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elusive
from detroit (United States) on 2005-04-14 07:45 [#01564747]
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told ya, ubuntu rox
my buddy told me about it im like
0_0
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r40f
from qrters tea party on 2005-04-14 07:55 [#01564764]
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i think hopkin is probably stuck under a chip somewhere. anyway, i just straightened out the thing i needed to fix and now i'm hackin around again. ;)
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fleetmouse
from Horny for Truth on 2005-04-14 08:06 [#01564778]
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You and your friend are: the man
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epohs
from )C: on 2005-04-14 08:06 [#01564779]
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locate hopkin
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epohs
from )C: on 2005-04-14 08:11 [#01564786]
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Bourne Again Shell will find my frog.
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r40f
from qrters tea party on 2005-04-14 08:13 [#01564789]
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he's probably encased within the slimy folds of mr blobby's flabby underside.
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fleetmouse
from Horny for Truth on 2005-04-14 08:19 [#01564799]
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ps I'll grep my frog
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r40f
from qrters tea party on 2005-04-14 08:20 [#01564800]
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hahah - the last couple of jokes were way over my head, but i still like them.
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epohs
from )C: on 2005-04-14 08:21 [#01564801]
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*Rolling On The Floor Laughing My Pocket Protector Off
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epohs
from )C: on 2005-04-14 08:40 [#01564843]
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Rythmbox is the default "Music Player" in ubuntu, I think. (screenshot)
It seems to be a pretty good player, although I haven't messed with it a whole lot.
It doesn't support mp3 by default though (cause it's a closed format), so you gotta use synaptic to install gstreamer0.8-mad.
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r40f
from qrters tea party on 2005-04-14 08:41 [#01564847]
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hm, i don't seem to have it installed for some reason.
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epohs
from )C: on 2005-04-14 08:46 [#01564849]
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wierd.. when you right-click on an mp3 and choose to 'open with', it should be listed as "Music Player", I think.
Although, I'm not at home so I can't look at my machine.
The guy that helped me get my wireless card working had me set up synaptic to search the entire universe.. which may've allowed me to install things that are masked by default.
Other than that, I'm running a pretty much basic install of hoary.
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epohs
from )C: on 2005-04-14 08:48 [#01564852]
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What applications does ubuntu try to open an mp3 with?
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fleetmouse
from Horny for Truth on 2005-04-14 22:52 [#01565815]
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This makes me think of a story in a 4th grade reader about a little boy named Ubuntu who gets lost in the wilderness and uses his survival skills to get to safety.
The teacher assigns questions:
1) What does Ubuntu do when he sees the lion's tracks? Why?
3) How does Ubuntu find water in the wilderness?
2) What applications does Ubuntu try to open an mp3 with?
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fleetmouse
from Horny for Truth on 2005-04-14 22:53 [#01565817]
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God I'm stupid. I could never be a teacher with my poor counting skillz.
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