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stefano_azevedo
from Pindorama (Brazil) on 2005-04-09 19:04 [#01558615]
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i wonder why they always come with extra-tracks.
i read recently that the new paulo coelho's book (brazilian best seller bitchass) had to be released first on Iran than on the rest of the world. Thats because of iranian copyrights law - if the book is released in any other country before, they dont need to pay the copyrights. i think something like that betwen music market, japan and extra tracks.
or please sb give me the correct answer
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mappatazee
from ¨y¨z¨| (Burkina Faso) on 2005-04-09 19:12 [#01558621]
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to increase demand for them.
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stefano_azevedo
from Pindorama (Brazil) on 2005-04-13 17:34 [#01564176]
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wouldnt be clever increasing demand also on rest of world?
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uzim
on 2005-04-13 17:41 [#01564183]
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i've heard that cds are more expensive in japan...
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vlari
from beyond the valley of the LOLs on 2005-04-13 17:44 [#01564186]
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it is to make the domestic releases more attractive than the imports of same release.
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hobbes
from age on 2005-04-13 17:44 [#01564187]
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Like a lot of other things.
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stefano_azevedo
from Pindorama (Brazil) on 2005-04-13 17:56 [#01564198]
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imports would be cheaper than the domestic ones?
if so, is the japanese industrie that pay for the extra track.
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vlari
from beyond the valley of the LOLs on 2005-04-13 18:01 [#01564206]
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Perhaps. I only know why there are bonustracks on (some)japanese editions. I haven't investigated the economic side of it, but it makes sense that the label license the tracks, and push the price that little bit extra. Who knows? There might be some fellow from Japan here who can shed some light on this matter.
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brokephones
from Londontario on 2005-04-13 18:26 [#01564246]
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I think vlari is right. As far as imports being cheaper, I don't think that they would be. All they would need to do is electronically send the art assets and tracks over to the Japanese manufacturer, whereas with the import route you would need to ship all the shrinkwrapped albums across the ocean physically. Due to the huge size of the Japanese music industry, it is cheaper for them to press their own domestic versions within their own infrastructure.
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Neto
from Ecatepec (Mexico) on 2005-04-13 18:35 [#01564252]
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a friend told me that a friend of him visited Japan, and this guy checked in various stores that the japanese releases were cheaper than the imports (the ones that usually we have). Because of this, the japanese labels DEMAND for a bonus for their market so they can release the cd's to save money for imports and to guarantee every title will be sold out after some time.
Beside, I think it has become some sort of "tradition", with every new release I always think "is there a bonus track (or something else) in the japanese edition?"
By the way, EVERYTHING is expensive in Japan.
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hobbes
from age on 2005-04-13 18:38 [#01564256]
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Yes that more or less sums it up.
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TokyoJo
from London now, not Tokyo anymore on 2005-04-14 16:42 [#01565537]
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Its the other way around - imports are nearly always cheaper than domestic releases.
Domestic releases usually come with extra tracks, and usually also have extra liner notes in japanese, with band biog and often translated lyrics. They also have an obi (belt) that wraps around the side of the box and says the artist and release name in japanese (usually katakana for foreign artists). I guess the extra tracks and liner notes justify the higher price.
Nothing in Japan makes sense. Take it from someone who has lived there for years -you have to stop questioning why things are they way they are and just accept it - otherwise the whole country would drive you mental.
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vlari
from beyond the valley of the LOLs on 2005-04-14 16:44 [#01565539]
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Thanks for clearing this mess up :)
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2005-04-14 16:45 [#01565540]
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how was the switch from Tokyo back to London?
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hobbes
from age on 2005-04-14 16:46 [#01565546]
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That's more or less what neto said, sir.
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TokyoJo
from London now, not Tokyo anymore on 2005-04-14 16:47 [#01565547]
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two shots of happy, one shot of sad
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2005-04-14 16:48 [#01565549]
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tentacle hentai?
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TokyoJo
from London now, not Tokyo anymore on 2005-04-14 16:49 [#01565552]
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neto said "the japanese releases were cheaper than the imports". This is wrong, the imports are cheaper than japanese releases.
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TokyoJo
from London now, not Tokyo anymore on 2005-04-14 16:51 [#01565555]
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i'm not that kind of girl
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hobbes
from age on 2005-04-14 16:53 [#01565560]
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I missread him then. :) I caught the bit about extra tracks being on japanese releases to interest the local customer over the cheaper import version and that was it. Now that i read it, you're right, he didn't really say that.
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Drunken Mastah
from OPPERKLASSESVIN!!! (Norway) on 2005-04-14 16:55 [#01565564]
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I think it's a result of japanese people trying to figure themselves out, and then going mad from it...
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TokyoJo
from London now, not Tokyo anymore on 2005-04-14 16:56 [#01565566]
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You have brought shame on the message board and i demand you commit ritual hara kiri suicide right now
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hobbes
from age on 2005-04-14 16:58 [#01565573]
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I demand to be killed by hideshi hino!
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2005-04-14 16:59 [#01565576]
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I demand nothing of you and that is why you're madly in love with me.
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hobbes
from age on 2005-04-14 17:03 [#01565582]
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No i won't look into your eyes!
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stefano_azevedo
from Pindorama (Brazil) on 2005-04-15 18:25 [#01566799]
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japanese culture is weird, it surely contains some irrational fascinating enchanted logic. ill never understand it before living some years in japan.
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hobbes
from age on 2005-04-15 18:28 [#01566802]
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Why don't you, penexpers and CS2x create a new forum elsewhere?
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stefano_azevedo
from Pindorama (Brazil) on 2005-04-15 18:39 [#01566813]
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wait... done.
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hobbes
from age on 2005-04-15 18:40 [#01566817]
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Link please!
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stefano_azevedo
from Pindorama (Brazil) on 2005-04-15 18:48 [#01566827]
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