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epohs
from )C: on 2005-04-08 20:57 [#01557691]
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IT WORKS MOTHERBITCHES!!
Ok, after fucking months of fucking around trying to get various wireless network cards to work with various flavors of linux, I decided to give Ubuntu a shot... the final shot. If this didn't work I was going back to windows.
It didn't work out of the box like they said it would. My specific card was listed in their supported hardware list and all of that.
So, I decided to log into their IRC support channel, and see if help was immediate. IT WAS! Seriously, a guy told me to PM him, then he proceeded to walk me step by step through the diagnosis and fixing process.. which took almost three hours. I can't believe someone from the linux community wasn't condescending or a complete dick. Dude went WAY out of his way to help me.
Anyhow, the installation process was seriously easy, and it seems to run nicely enough. At least as good as gentoo, if not slightly better.
For real, big thanks to everyone who suggested giving ubuntu a try. I'm so happy I could do backflips right now.
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r40f
from qrters tea party on 2005-04-08 22:04 [#01557724]
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wow, fantastic! glad to hear it worked out for you.
after my computer got screwed up again this afternoon, i decided to give ubuntu a shot. i just got it installed. it takes up a lot more disk space and it runs slower, but otherwise it seems all right so far.
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epohs
from )C: on 2005-04-08 22:07 [#01557725]
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what are your system specs? this computer is pretty old, and it's running nicely on here:
- P3 733Mhz - 640MB ram
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dog_belch
from Netherlands, The on 2005-04-08 22:08 [#01557726]
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After literally years of trying to force a Betamax tape into my Philips Video 2000 now finally JorgeSoft of Bremen have created a plastic "patch" which enables me to enjoy all the "much better" qualities of Betamax over the godless, not worth shit on a goose's arse, VHS, all playable on the convenience of my obsolete machine. The programmes I record are much better than the originals and everyone thinks I'm great.
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r40f
from qrters tea party on 2005-04-08 22:12 [#01557729]
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it's 733 but it has only 192MB ram.
not much seems to be customizable and it doesn't seem to have cd-burning software? i just figured out how to set up the cd software (ima noob, etc).
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2005-04-08 22:34 [#01557744]
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you burned away hours of precious life and for what?
nothing, mr. Shope. NOTHING.
your happiness is hollow and makes me weep on the inside..!
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epohs
from )C: on 2005-04-08 22:38 [#01557746]
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precious life?
really, i have nothing better to do.
it's a sad life i live.
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2005-04-08 22:40 [#01557749]
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no point in saying "well done" either then, really.
I'll try it anyway:
well done!
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epohs
from )C: on 2005-04-08 22:44 [#01557752]
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thank you, sir.
:')
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xf
from Australia on 2005-04-08 23:49 [#01557789]
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yeah, ubuntu's really heading in the right direction; it's certainly far from perfect, but it's shaping up quite well.
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nanotech
from Sukavasti Amitaba Pureland (United States) on 2005-04-09 00:22 [#01557794]
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fuck ubuntu, debian offers the same support (irc channels). ubuntu's the windows of linux. Hate them. If you got your card working in ubuntu; cool. If you would have taken the same troubleshooting path as you did with ubuntu (n00bing it up in the irc channels), with ANY other distro, not only would you not have had to load that crap on your box, you'd be able to keep a much better distro on it.
thumbs down.
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eXXailon
from purgatory on 2005-04-09 02:04 [#01557841]
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yeah you go try freeBSD then l33t h4x0r
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fleetmouse
from Horny for Truth on 2005-04-09 02:13 [#01557843]
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Epohs, if any Linux user ever condescends to you, let me know AND I WILL KILL THEM WITH NINJA MENTAL POWERS.
I'm using Windows only because of Reaktor but I'm going to install the hedgehog on a separate drive so we can be Linux buddies. XXX OOO XXX MCXMVIIQQQ
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fleetmouse
from Horny for Truth on 2005-04-09 02:34 [#01557854]
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omigod, no way. Ubuntu recognizes my Audiophile 24/96 card and installs the correct ALSA drivers. I wrestled with that for days in other distros. Fuck my shit. I am impressed.
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xf
from Australia on 2005-04-09 04:12 [#01557877]
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er, how the fuck is ubuntu better than debian, or vice-versa? both projects are very involved with each other; they have virtually the same fucking package trees for gods sake.
debian's mentalities are stagnant as shit though; it's great if you're willing to run unstable and set everything up manually, but you can achieve exactly the same thing with ubuntu and it's loads easier.
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xf
from Australia on 2005-04-09 04:14 [#01557878]
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sorry, ubuntu _is_ better in debian in terms of actual release cycles, software support and ease of use. it's a polished debian, if you will, but yes, you can achieve the same with sid if you're willing to put the work in. the key to adoption here, is that most people don't want to put the work in, or plain don't know how to.
you're not a debian developer by any chance, are you? i can't see why anybody from a user perspective would claim debian to be "better", unless they're heavily involved.
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epohs
from )C: on 2005-04-09 09:48 [#01558108]
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SUPERPALS !
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xf
from Australia on 2005-04-09 10:07 [#01558122]
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BUDDIES, not SUPERPALS
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epohs
from )C: on 2005-04-09 13:41 [#01558307]
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yeah, this machine is primarily for me to play around with, but i also would like for it to work.. meaning that when i want to accomplish something, it helps to make forward progress. that just wasn't happening with gentoo. i'm sure this was due to my lack of linux knowledge... but that's the problem, isn't it? should you have to be a linux developer to be able to make it work?
for all i read about how amazing the gentoo forums are, i was unable to get sufficient help. i wasn't rude, and i tried to provide all the information that i could, but if the know-how was there, they sure weren't forthcoming with it.
i'm sure i could've made my wireless card work with gentoo if i was familiar with everything that i needed to do, but i wasn't. and nobody was helping.
i decided to give one more flavor a shot before i abandoned linux, and ubuntu was the flavor people were raving about the most, so i went with it. and, i immediately stumbled across someone who was willing to spend the time with me that i needed.
that's pretty much it. i may not have the most streamlined installation possible, but it's now doing everything that i wanted it to do, so i'm happy.
and, comparing ubuntu to windows isn't quite fair from my admittedly naive point of view. i was under the assumption that debian was dedicated to using the most open software they can... which is pretty much the antithesis of microsoft's philosophy.
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elusive
from detroit (United States) on 2005-04-09 19:21 [#01558626]
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ububtu is cool new version just came out, too
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xf
from Australia on 2005-04-09 19:59 [#01558641]
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i hate the entire mentality of gentoo. it's for people who are bored and have nothing better to do; everything takes fucking _ages_, from configuring various things, to compiling every goddamn thing in the operating system.
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xf
from Australia on 2005-04-09 20:00 [#01558644]
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actually, i don't hate it; it makes sense in some situations, for sure, but i personally do not seee the sense in it for a desktop operating system.
claims that it runs faster are pure bullshit, too; perhaps a percent or two with various optimisations that will probably introduce additional stability, maybe. not worth it.
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r40f
from qrters tea party on 2005-04-09 20:03 [#01558649]
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i've got to say, ubuntu is working out really well thus far. once i figured it out a bit, it got easier. it isn't crashing like the other gui i had. i like it all right.
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elusive
from detroit (United States) on 2005-04-09 23:37 [#01558730]
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i agree with xf,
im no where near a huge linux freak
but my friends who use it, im like ... why?
it's like "oh, i need to install a media player"
ok, well im gonna spend 8 hours compiling this media player so 8hours from now i can finally listen and watch my videos.
erm, ok?
for an extra 5% performance?
no thanks , if i want something i want it now
my friends with gentoo have it on relatively faster boxes,so why do they go thru so much for a simple 5% (if) performance boost?
BUT WAIT DOOD, they exclaim,,, ON THIS FASTER BOX IT COMPILES FASTER SO ... SO THERE!!!!!!!!
ok
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