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Taffmonster
from dog_belch (Japan) on 2005-04-08 16:31 [#01557223]
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i dont know man! im wasted. i was just saying america is portrayed as something its probably not over here just as uk is portrayed as business men with bad teethe and all thats hit etc the stereotypes go on!
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godataloss
from Cleveland (United States) on 2005-04-08 16:32 [#01557225]
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"i think you are missing the whole fact that it is not a parody. at least not as far as i can tell."
Of course its a parady. This is my point exactly. You WANT to believe its real because it is another dig on the old U S of A!
Fuck we are all mental! What culture isnt? but please do not think the actions of our goverment or the drivel of our popular culture as being emblematic of the people as a whole.
Who here isnt outside the mainstream of their respective culture/government?
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welt
on 2005-04-08 16:34 [#01557227]
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sure the usa has a culture. as it was already pointed out. jazz may have been made by african immigrants / slave, but by africans IN AMERICA. and it wouldnt have been possible anywhere else.
then there's the whole lifestyle "american dream" / individuality thing.
claiming america had no culture is just plain stupid.
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Taffmonster
from dog_belch (Japan) on 2005-04-08 16:34 [#01557228]
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thats what i wa strying to say! also i think the problem is the whole comedy thing. like we use irony and sarcasm alot and alot of americans do to but it just doesnt translate very well and the video did seem very serious i couldnt tell the sarcasm. its complex
lets just all huga nd go smoke a big fatty bum batty on the tube to camden!
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Taffmonster
from dog_belch (Japan) on 2005-04-08 16:36 [#01557231]
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the american dream is bullshit! sorry
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denniscpearce
from Canada on 2005-04-08 16:37 [#01557234]
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sir, i think you are overestimating the average american people.
especially the christians. what makes you think its a parody? people are having the same discussian here i hope you are joking. this is the singers website here apparently this is the director
what makes you think its not a serious thing?
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welt
on 2005-04-08 16:38 [#01557235]
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but it's something that distinguishes american culture. wheter the american dream may be a healthy ideal or not.
by the way, i'm drunk and i dont wanna discuss and i'm not sure if i'm speaking correct english, fuck u all.
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godataloss
from Cleveland (United States) on 2005-04-08 16:39 [#01557237]
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I heard that! Let's let weed be the universal ambassador to all cultures!
Im off to poop and dinner where I will doubtlessly indulge in too many cocktail, become my old beligerant self and log on and insult some more folks here.
I am american after all. Our rudeness is legendary as is our fine Kentucky home-grown.
Jah rastafari!
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hobbes
from age on 2005-04-08 16:40 [#01557241]
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"but please do not think the actions of our goverment or the drivel of our popular culture as being emblematic of the people as a whole"
I think you'll find no one is doing that here. I have plenty of american relatives, friends etc....i love chris ware, old school hip hop, nina simone, alice coltrane, plenty of american film directors, the list is endless...i even have a pair of shoes with the name of a cleveland basketball player on! (shame on me btw)
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Taffmonster
from dog_belch (Japan) on 2005-04-08 16:40 [#01557242]
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lol i get ya man ive had a few 2 ! its all good ! but i dont think people deny america has culture of course it does but the majority of its culture is built on the foundations of much olde3r cultures that never get such recognition and thats peoples beef. i think
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hobbes
from age on 2005-04-08 16:40 [#01557244]
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I'm not american btw. Where did you get that idea from?
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Taffmonster
from dog_belch (Japan) on 2005-04-08 16:43 [#01557247]
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lols orry man im half cut!
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hobbes
from age on 2005-04-08 16:45 [#01557252]
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Good on ya. No need to be sorry.
Toad in the hole
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mylittlesister
from ...wherever (United Kingdom) on 2005-04-08 16:46 [#01557253]
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i think it's te big, bold american tourists who give America a bad name too. especially with comments such as:
"england? is that somewhere near london" or anything other such "? is that somewhere near " statement.
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mylittlesister
from ...wherever (United Kingdom) on 2005-04-08 16:47 [#01557257]
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that was good, it cut out half my post...
...or anything other such "(country)? is that somewhere near (capital)?" statement
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Taffmonster
from dog_belch (Japan) on 2005-04-08 16:51 [#01557261]
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i have no bad feelings towards americans my only gripe is never anything against individuals (bush not included as he is a fuking being form hell itself lol) but when americans say they are irish is very silly! no offence but seriously irish ancestory doesnt make u irish!
love to the american brother sim off tow atch american films!
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welt
on 2005-04-08 16:53 [#01557267]
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hm, yeah. that might be a point.
the american constitution was developed by french and english philosophers.
the music is a result of different cultures' musics merging.
but then again there's something unique about american culture in the whole. whatever.
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hobbes
from age on 2005-04-08 17:00 [#01557274]
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"but then again there's something unique about american culture in the whole. whatever."
Of course there is, it's inevitable.
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godataloss
from Cleveland (United States) on 2005-04-08 18:52 [#01557409]
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I can see this Irish american is going to have to hurry up and get drunk in order to compete further in this thread.
Cheers!
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2005-04-08 19:29 [#01557484]
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it was almost the exact same conversation.. I remember actively screaming in that one.
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godataloss
from Cleveland (United States) on 2005-04-08 19:32 [#01557500]
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We're no longer screaming.
We're drinking and smoking weed raving about what great chaps we all really are.
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2005-04-08 19:37 [#01557520]
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oh good.
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godataloss
from Cleveland (United States) on 2005-04-08 19:46 [#01557556]
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nah- I prefer a good argument, but most Europeans are too elitist about Americans to actually consider a yank has somthing to say.
and the weed and vodka has finally subduded my coffee high of earlier today.
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hobbes
from age on 2005-04-08 19:49 [#01557567]
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Stop it! I can't even be bothered to give you examples as to why you are being paranoid again.
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2005-04-08 19:54 [#01557577]
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typical American paranoia.
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godataloss
from Cleveland (United States) on 2005-04-08 19:54 [#01557578]
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I'm sorry.
Being an American, I find it exceedingly difficult to feel accepted in mixed company.
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