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redrum
from the allman brothers band (Ireland) on 2005-03-31 19:15 [#01548970]
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just woke up at 3am after 3hrs sleep, thought i might ask for help about a problem that's been bugging me for weeks now -
i used the 2.2 kernel for a very long time and only recently (when i found out it was what was giving me gip over large capacity HDs) tried to upgrade to 2.6.
2.6 however gives a gay message at bootup, telling me to append a correct "root=" option to my lilo.conf file - even though i have one (it works for 2.2 and 2.4)
2.4 boots. However, using it, when I'm listening to mp3s (streamed over samba) they pause sometimes for upwards of 20 seconds. This happens quite a bit..
I thought it might be a problem with samba's buffer - so i added the lines
SO_RCVBUF=8192 SO_SNDBUF=10240
to my smb.conf file. Did it help? Did it f[BLEEP]
so yeah, any linux gurus on the board who could help me? I've asked in other, more appropriate settings but to no avail.
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xf
from Australia on 2005-03-31 20:51 [#01549008]
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dude, how old is this linux distro you're using?
2.6 requires a whole swag of new userland tools (modutils, etc, for example). sounds like it'd be easier to blow away and install something new, or if you're smart enough to use something like debian, do a dist-upgrade.
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redrum
from the allman brothers band (Ireland) on 2005-03-31 20:56 [#01549009]
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yeah i'm using debian, however, unfortunately it'd have taken months longer to get my linux server connected to the college network than my winxp laptop, so i just got the laptop connected directly...
which is, in terms of usefullness.. useless.
i can't apt-get anything, can't wget anything, have to do everything through windows, it's a great pain.
i'm thinking of wiping debian and installing openbsd.
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redrum
from the allman brothers band (Ireland) on 2005-03-31 20:59 [#01549010]
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i just had a very interesting idea.......
i'm using your-freedom LAZY_LINK to use bittorrent and stuff - it runs a java proxy on your local machine which tunnels to the your-freedom servers. it can also handle requests from other computers on your LAN.....
so i could set up the linux box to go through that as a proxy. i hadn't thought of that... i'll get a max speed of 50kbps (compared to 1-2MBps i get on the college line) downloading, but still, it's connectivity...
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xf
from Australia on 2005-03-31 21:25 [#01549014]
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oh, right. is it woody, or potato?
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xf
from Australia on 2005-03-31 21:26 [#01549015]
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put another network card into your windows machine, and run internet-connection-sharing. use a cross over cable from the linux box to the windows box. run dhclient or pump on the linux box and it'll all magically work.
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xf
from Australia on 2005-03-31 21:28 [#01549017]
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and haha wtf, openbsd?
yeah, debian stable is backwards, but you're going back to last fucking century with openbsd. it has it's merits; it's firewalling stuff rocks, but jesus christ what a backwards operating system (i guess it's what you get when you audit _everything_).
try ubuntu. go and download the 'hoary pre-release' and do a server install. it's basically debian stable, but with regular 6 month release cycles, decent fucking packages, and great support. ubuntu primarily is a desktop-orientated distro but it works just as well on servers.
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xf
from Australia on 2005-03-31 21:30 [#01549018]
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(i should try putting all my responses in one reply)
if you're running woody/current stable, there are ways to get samba+2.6 running nicely on it but you need to rely heavily on "backports". depends what is easier for you - reinstalling (easier), or spending a day or so getting your current distro up to speed.
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redrum
from the allman brothers band (Ireland) on 2005-03-31 21:34 [#01549019]
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i think it's woody. whichever the older one is.
i have a wireless connection over which iwas gonna provide net support. i think i tried the windows connection sharing before but to no avail; i'll try again. your-freedom says i'm not allowed relay connections, even though it's enabled.. i think i've got to donate or something before they'll let me. i sent em an email anyhow.
and openbsd - how is it backward? perhaps it might be if you're into staring at pretty pictures on Gnome 2.8 or whatever release they're on now - but that's not for me. once the box serves up my files, i'm happy. and obsd is the securest OS to do that. it's a server OS, not a workstation OS.. the way linux was meant to be..
i really detest these desktop-orientated linux distros. sure, it's good to get people into free software and all that, but I think linux is a bad place to start:
when people take an OS like linux and try to make it "user-friendly", they hide the beauty of it. its beauty is in its text config files and lack of gui tools. wanna config something, you should know what file to open and what to type. things like bind are a bitch to config in such a way, but that's what webmin and those other http interfaces are for....
i just don't like em. they're.. ugly.
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redrum
from the allman brothers band (Ireland) on 2005-03-31 21:35 [#01549020]
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and i'm referring to desktop-based linux distros with my last comment, not webmin.
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xf
from Australia on 2005-03-31 21:38 [#01549021]
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woody was released about 2 1/2 years ago, potato was around before that.
ok - look into backports.org - get "samba" and the "2.6" stuff. you familiar with adding repo's to sources.list?
ok - openbsd is backwards because the team basically audit _all_ the code, so you're left with tools and daemons which basically have the features and functionality that most linux distros had maybe 5, or 6 years ago. i absolutely loathe using it for a server outside of a machine _only_ doing firewalling. samba on it is shit, imho, not to mention really, really fucking slow. if you want to go bsd - go freebsd.
and yeah, i agree re: pretty gui configuration crap. that said, i am the author of a webmin-like tool which i'm hoping to release anyday soon, now... :)
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xf
from Australia on 2005-03-31 21:39 [#01549024]
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btw, ubuntu doesn't have pretty stupid gui configuration shit for configuring crap.
it's basically debian, but without the stupid politics and regular releases. if you're familiar with debian, it's like a dream come true. if you install it using the 'server' install (it's an option when you install), it'll basically throw on a basic system minus x-window, gnome, et al.
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redrum
from the allman brothers band (Ireland) on 2005-03-31 21:44 [#01549025]
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interesting.
but on the obsd point - i was at a talk given in my college by the head of the obsd project (yer man who was kicked off fbsd) and they were describing their auditing and how they make the code much more secure. it's incredibly complex and streamlining stuff. and they said that the stuff they do this to has no functionality removed as a result.. meh. i'll check out ubuntu anyhow..
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redrum
from the allman brothers band (Ireland) on 2005-03-31 21:46 [#01549027]
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and on the original point -
it seems that when i enable internet connection sharing on one device, the other device drops dead (we're talking LAN / Wireless here), so that option's out the window. ah well.
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xf
from Australia on 2005-03-31 21:47 [#01549028]
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haha, theo de raadt?
oh man you've been tainted.
yes, it has no functionality removed, but that's because they're still auditing the code that was released years ago. it's a long, painful process, you see.
given good sysadmin skills it's not exactly leagues more secure, anyway.
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redrum
from the allman brothers band (Ireland) on 2005-03-31 21:48 [#01549030]
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they're ripping off the fucking gnu manifesto and calling it their own on their fucking homepage
i don't like this one bit
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redrum
from the allman brothers band (Ireland) on 2005-03-31 21:49 [#01549031]
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(ubuntu)
and yea it was theo de raadt. i was impressed :)
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xf
from Australia on 2005-03-31 21:55 [#01549032]
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they are? url?
theo's ego is more famous than theo.
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xf
from Australia on 2005-03-31 21:57 [#01549034]
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oh, sorry, right, on the front page. shrug. not like it's a fact they're keeping secret or anything, and there probably are distinct differences.
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x0hx
from Lysdexia (United States) on 2005-03-31 22:33 [#01549041]
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I'd wait for next week to roll around to get Ubuntu The final ver. is out then You can order free CD's on their site too No S/H even I'd recommend Knoppix or Kubuntu as well Kubuntu is the KDE version of Ubuntu
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xf
from Australia on 2005-03-31 22:37 [#01549043]
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Kubuntu for a server, over Ubuntu? Wha...? :)
And it doesn't matter a whole lot, really; things a frozen now, so you'll get more or less the same shit via the pre-release CD (and the upgrades are only an apt-get away).
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x0hx
from Lysdexia (United States) on 2005-03-31 22:49 [#01549047]
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No... Ubuntu = Gnome Kubuntu = KDE So many flavors So little time If you wanna run a pure or dedicated server there's much more customized distro's for that I'm sure
But Linux is the fastest for that, IMHO
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