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         |  sadist
             from the dark side of the moon on 2005-03-24 15:11 [#01543050] Points: 8671 Status: Lurker
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 | can you tell me how much the performance sinks ? in percent ? thanks
 
 
 
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         |  Aesthetics
             from the IDM Kiosk on 2005-03-24 15:12 [#01543051] Points: 6796 Status: Lurker
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 | why would anyone simulate Windows on a Mac? 
 
 
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         |  Aesthetics
             from the IDM Kiosk on 2005-03-24 15:14 [#01543055] Points: 6796 Status: Lurker | Followup to Aesthetics: #01543051
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 | anyonesomeone
 
 
 
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         |  sadist
             from the dark side of the moon on 2005-03-24 15:14 [#01543057] Points: 8671 Status: Lurker | Followup to Aesthetics: #01543051
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 | i would want to avoid that kind of questions 
 
 
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         |  Aesthetics
             from the IDM Kiosk on 2005-03-24 15:15 [#01543059] Points: 6796 Status: Lurker | Followup to sadist: #01543057
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 | too late bro 
 
 
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         |  sadist
             from the dark side of the moon on 2005-03-24 15:15 [#01543061] Points: 8671 Status: Lurker | Followup to Aesthetics: #01543059
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 | fruity loops 
 
 
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         |  sadist
             from the dark side of the moon on 2005-03-24 15:16 [#01543062] Points: 8671 Status: Lurker
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 | enough ? 
 
 
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         |  Taxidermist
             from Black Grass on 2005-03-24 15:18 [#01543068] Points: 9958 Status: Lurker
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 | How bought the hundred so other good vsti that run on pc and not mac
 
 
 
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         |  Aesthetics
             from the IDM Kiosk on 2005-03-24 15:19 [#01543072] Points: 6796 Status: Lurker | Followup to sadist: #01543061
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 | that remark slipped out 
 
 
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         |  gl0tch
             from www.gl0tch.com     on 2005-03-24 15:23 [#01543085] Points: 2708 Status: Lurker
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 | dude, I wouldnt want to run Fruity on Virtual PC..  That would be retarded.  I'm not sure it would even be worth it
 if you were running Fruity through VPC on a Dual 2+ GHz G5
 with over 2 GB of ram.
 
 too many latancies going on there to be worth it.
 
 
 
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         |  sadist
             from the dark side of the moon on 2005-03-24 15:24 [#01543089] Points: 8671 Status: Lurker
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 | i mean ibooks are so fuckin cute... 
 i just cannot allow myself to change my software now -
 fruityloops is to good - but for the fact that i might
 change it in 2 years maybe... who knows - that's why i want
 to emulate it...
 
 but how is the performance ?
 
 
 
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         |  sadist
             from the dark side of the moon on 2005-03-24 15:29 [#01543094] Points: 8671 Status: Lurker | Followup to gl0tch: #01543085
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 | i think i'll cry 
 
 
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         |  sadist
             from the dark side of the moon on 2005-03-24 15:30 [#01543095] Points: 8671 Status: Lurker | Followup to gl0tch: #01543085
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 | but thanks for telling me that - that was my quetsion 
 
 
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         |  oscillik
             from the fires of orc on 2005-03-24 18:31 [#01543252] Points: 7746 Status: Regular
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 | for stuff that doesn't require real-time editing, it's not too bad
 
 but for something like FruityLoops it's totally unusable.
 
 I use it for CoagulaLight (since MetaSynth for Mac OS X is
 WAY too fucking expensive and uncrackable at the moment)
 :(
 
 
 
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         |  oscillik
             from the fires of orc on 2005-03-24 18:33 [#01543254] Points: 7746 Status: Regular
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 | oh and Virtual PC does seem to be the best x86 emulator for the Mac
 
 the others are slower and a bit more difficult to use, not
 to mention they don't have as many features as Virtual PC.
 
 it's still a shame Microsoft had to go buy Connectix out
 
 
 
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         |  lupus yonderboy
             from 1970. (United Kingdom) on 2005-03-24 18:44 [#01543264] Points: 1985 Status: Lurker
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 | definately. 
 performance is terrible. real time audio software is a total
 no go....you could get away with soundforge possibly. I'm on
 a 1.5gig powerbook with 1.5gig RAM running virtual PC 6 with
 windows 2000 and even browsing between windows is sluggish.
 
 BTW. you can run older versions of metasynth in OSX classic,
 but it's a bit buggy: if that helps. slsk might have it.
 
 
 
 
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         |  oscillik
             from the fires of orc on 2005-03-24 18:50 [#01543266] Points: 7746 Status: Regular | Followup to lupus yonderboy: #01543264
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 | i don't have Classic installed on my machine - i haven't used it for ages, and haven't needed to.
 
 I'm running VPC 7 on a 1.5GHz G4 with 1GB RAM and I have
 pretty much every version of Windows running on here.
 
 I've tweaked the hell out of Windows 2000, and Windows XP
 Pro and I've got them both running at reasonable speeds.
 
 If you can get hold of a program called XPLite, you can
 tweak it even more and get it to run a bit faster.
 
 
 
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         |  lupus yonderboy
             from 1970. (United Kingdom) on 2005-03-24 18:56 [#01543275] Points: 1985 Status: Lurker
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 | i fancy using cubase 5 again to run only midi into my mac but i think i might just buy some old piece of shit to do
 it..it's only midi. i'll keep my peepers peeled that prog
 tho. ta=]
 
 
 
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         |  sadist
             from the dark side of the moon on 2005-03-25 01:03 [#01543386] Points: 8671 Status: Lurker
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 | is i t true that you can only use original soft on macs ?? !!
 
 
 
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         |  johnl
             from Dublin (Ireland) on 2005-03-25 01:10 [#01543388] Points: 172 Status: Lurker
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 | Okay... Performance isn't that bad in Virtual PC. You could probably
 use Fruity Loops. But like. That'd be a waste of time, just
 like Fruity Loops.
 Invest some time in learning a more serious program like
 Reason or Digital Performer or Reason or Reason :)
 As for "original soft on macs", I presume this is a question
 as to whether or not software  can be pirated on Macs. It
 can be of course.
 Hope this helps,
 John
 
 
 
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         |  Taxidermist
             from Black Grass on 2005-03-25 02:15 [#01543400] Points: 9958 Status: Lurker
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 | I wouldn't suggest reason as a serious alternative to floops, unless you are making progressive house or techno or
 something along those lines. The sound design potential of
 fruityloops is exponentially higher than that of reason,
 although reason is exponentially more well designed a
 program than fruityloops.
 
 I would suggest cubase as an alternative to either programs.
 If you insist on getting a mac, which I would advise
 against, get cubase running on it. Its not that much of a
 leap from fruityloops, but allows you so much more. Although
 it doesn't have the fomula controller (which I think should
 be in everything).
 
 
 
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