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brokephones
from Londontario on 2005-03-23 15:54 [#01542042]
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Do you love dub? Perhaps you merely 'like' dub? Do you dislike dub? Do you rub a dub dub?
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Taxidermist
from Black Grass on 2005-03-24 03:12 [#01542490]
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Dub is a world unto itself. Its above being liked or disliked.
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redrum
from the allman brothers band (Ireland) on 2005-03-24 03:12 [#01542491]
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it's okay i guess. doesn't particularly move me.
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Matvey
from Kiev (Ukraine) on 2005-03-24 03:17 [#01542492]
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i don't get it. can't catch the "groove", in general.
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Bob Mcbob
on 2005-03-24 03:42 [#01542505]
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i thought 'dub' was one of those words that didnt really mean anything...
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tallyho
from Vladivostok (Russia) on 2005-03-24 03:46 [#01542507]
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i used to think the same thing until i heard this album
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Matvey
from Kiev (Ukraine) on 2005-03-24 03:49 [#01542508]
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i'll check it. i heard about that King Tubby, he is a legend or so.
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tallyho
from Vladivostok (Russia) on 2005-03-24 04:00 [#01542511]
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oh yeah, give it a try. Augustus Pablo's stuff is good... very groovy and soothing. :)
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Taxidermist
from Black Grass on 2005-03-24 05:09 [#01542529]
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Rhythm and Sound is very good.
The versions is spectacular.
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virginpusher
from County Clare on 2005-03-24 06:02 [#01542545]
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That statement is true
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Bob Mcbob
on 2005-03-24 06:33 [#01542567]
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seriously, what is dub?
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Matvey
from Kiev (Ukraine) on 2005-03-24 07:03 [#01542586]
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i can't explain by means of typing letters.
i don't know, for short.
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pOgO
from behind your belly button fluff on 2005-03-24 07:14 [#01542601]
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There's a dub night in swansea every saturday and monkey !
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pOgO
from behind your belly button fluff on 2005-03-24 07:14 [#01542602]
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* at monkey
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2005-03-24 07:16 [#01542604]
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I like Dub. Quite a tricky genre to do your on tracks in.
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Bob Mcbob
on 2005-03-24 07:17 [#01542606]
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is it like a poppy sort of hip hop? with poetry?
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2005-03-24 07:25 [#01542614]
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It's more like an electronic kind of reggae. The signature thing is "dub delay/echo", usually a spring delay and usually a fairly repetative bassline that is present throughout most of the track. Do a P2P on king tubby, lee perry, mad professor or scientist. Original tracks were remixes/mashups of other tracks, eg new rhythm track or vocals, etc. Often uses "real" instruments (bass guitars, drums, etc.), but you get the odd synth in there too.
IMO, trip hop and illbient were both born out of dub.
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Bob Mcbob
on 2005-03-24 07:31 [#01542625]
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Ha, thats what i thought ska was!
what is ska then!
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2005-03-24 07:41 [#01542631]
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I'd say, "The bastard offspring of brass bands and punk". My cousins (who are mods- as in the scooter riders, not forum oderators :-) are into it. Punk with horns.
Only well know Ska track I can think of is "The impression that I get" by The Mighty Mighty Bosstones.
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godataloss
from Cleveland (United States) on 2005-03-25 11:17 [#01543653]
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"I'd say, "The bastard offspring of brass bands and punk". My
cousins (who are mods- as in the scooter riders, not forum oderators :-) are into it. Punk with horns. "
Yes- No Doubt invented ska- you ignorant fucker.
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godataloss
from Cleveland (United States) on 2005-03-25 11:26 [#01543658]
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Dub started in jamaican radio studios. Dub stands for "overdub" where sounds and effects were added to recording by radio dj's the original Turntablists.
Ska also started in Jamaica decades ago.
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axion
from planet rock (Sweden) on 2005-03-26 13:13 [#01544448]
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i like Lee Perrys Super Ape
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j4ck
from United Kingdom on 2005-03-26 13:34 [#01544455]
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yeah, lee perry the original upsetter
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B123
from The wicked underbelly (Australia) on 2007-03-14 07:05 [#02062104]
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Just watched Mad Professor on the weekend at a music festival.
Fuck I love dub..
Anyone else get down? Aih mon.
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Chin Bwoy Phat
from London (United Kingdom) on 2007-03-14 07:11 [#02062108]
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dub is a bit like reggae with no or very little lyrics. it's usually got some kind of marijuana connotations and is very mellow and repetetive and good to get stoned to. very deep basslines and lots of reggae type echos all over the place.
there is also electronic dub like rhythm and sound and fenin etc, which are also similar to the above, but done on synths etc. and usually not so many weed references.
i like both, but prefer true, old style dub.
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B123
from The wicked underbelly (Australia) on 2007-03-14 07:15 [#02062110]
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I like music without lyrics.
Mad Proff had an MC with him, but luckily he just added the occasional fill and "ahh yah" Nothing better than an MC who isn't too over bearing.
I have a Mad Proff set where he plays with Lee Scratch Perry and LSP doesn't stop jammin for 2 hours!!! Its just like LEEEEE shut up!
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FlyAgaric
from the discovery (Africa) on 2007-03-14 08:14 [#02062124]
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<3 dub!
really lovin' the black uhuru dub sessions. their reggae sounds great too.
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ijonspeches
from 109P/Swift-Tuttle on 2007-03-14 08:38 [#02062136]
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hah im just listening to black uhuru when i saw this thread,
"solidarity" just gotta love it
i used to download loads of dub from napster, but the best things were the ones i bought 10 years ago, like black uhuru in dub and the mad proffessor ones.
in general i prefer the dub versions from reggae songs over dub tracks, cant really tell why
on one of the mad professors there was sort of a drum and bass track, which has been the first thing i heard in this direction and that opened another door
this music really is made for big soundsytems, where the bass steadily moves you around like the waves of the ocean...
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Brisk
from selling smack at the orphanage on 2007-03-14 08:53 [#02062148]
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Yes, I like dub very much.
Dub reggae (old and new) and especially dub techno work for me. I mainly listen to it at home, generally when i'm working. Much like ambient music, you can either absorb yourself in the sounds, or simply use it as background music for when you need to concentrate on other things. This is the beauty of mellow, repetitive music.
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futureimage
from buy FIR from Juno (United Kingdom) on 2007-03-14 09:00 [#02062152]
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Need some of it desperately! I've got a guide to dub in a magazine so I'll buy a lot of that next time I need some.
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OK
on 2007-03-14 10:32 [#02062200]
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i like dub
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dave_g
from United Kingdom on 2007-03-14 10:54 [#02062209]
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Dub is great
Cow theif skank by Lee Perry is a track you MUST hear.
I think my fav+ dub album is 14 dub blackboard jungle by Lee Perry boomkat has samples but surprise, surprise, no stock!
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rad smiles
on 2007-03-14 16:01 [#02062281]
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king tubby is so awesome! dub gone crazy is a good compilation. and king tubby meets rockers uptown. perfection.
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rad smiles
on 2007-03-14 16:03 [#02062284]
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also what would lee perry's roast fish collie weed and cornbread be considered? its not really dub. the production on that album is scary amazing great.
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2007-03-14 18:22 [#02062351]
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i love dub.
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LuminousAphid
from home (United States) on 2007-03-14 19:09 [#02062373]
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corn fish dub is the version for that song I believe. it's on arkology reel 3, last track.
on topic, i love dub, but only when I'm in the right mood. I've been looking for some really smoky, trippy dub for a while now but all I can find is either old-style dub or techno-dub, neither of which have the quality I'm looking for. I know of a couple tracks, like "bumper ball dub" off of No Protection (Mad Prof vs. Massive Attack) or "Alter Echo Dubtometry" from Dubtometry (by DJ Spooky, I think with Lee Perry). Anyone know of any really smoky, laidback, druggy dub that I could mellow out to? basically i want to feel like i'm high but i don't have any weed.
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2007-03-14 19:12 [#02062374]
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you checked this yet?
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LuminousAphid
from home (United States) on 2007-03-14 19:15 [#02062376]
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i will do that, sir
also, i love dub
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2007-03-14 19:16 [#02062377]
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also, if i were you i'd check both those keith hudson records..specially playing it cool..mmm..oldschool though..
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LuminousAphid
from home (United States) on 2007-03-14 19:18 [#02062379]
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alright.
also to anyone who is still interested in this threat, matisyahu did an album with dub versions of a bunch of his stuff. i know matisyahu is kind of knobbish, but some of it is actually pretty good new-school dub
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LuminousAphid
from home (United States) on 2007-03-14 19:21 [#02062380]
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which two?
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2007-03-14 19:25 [#02062381]
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this one
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this one
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AphexAcid
from Sweden on 2007-03-15 08:59 [#02062546]
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What is 'illbient'?
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2007-03-15 09:01 [#02062547]
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brooklyn hip hop thing innit
dj spooky and stuff like that yo
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AphexAcid
from Sweden on 2007-03-15 09:06 [#02062551]
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Dj Spooky?
I think I've heard his stuff.
So it's about hiphop?
But what about the 'ill', and what's the 'bient' has got to do with it?
Connections with ambient? I can't stop thinking of some sort of dark, ill, eerie ambient:ish something. With a beat, perhaps
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2007-03-15 09:08 [#02062552]
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yeah, there can be ambient layers..dubbish smokish hip hop beats..
sensational would fit into this thing as well i think.
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AphexAcid
from Sweden on 2007-03-15 09:10 [#02062553]
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dubbish smokish hip hop beats..
I like that.
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2007-03-15 09:16 [#02062555]
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spooky
sensational&antipopconsortium
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AphexAcid
from Sweden on 2007-03-15 09:19 [#02062557]
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Thanks
I'll check it out
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dave_g
from United Kingdom on 2007-03-18 10:24 [#02063569]
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If anyone is intersted, Lee perry is playing at the jazz cafe in camden next weekend.
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