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CS2x
from London (United Kingdom) on 2005-03-22 13:47 [#01540925]
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I just went to this release recently....
While there are a few stunning moments in lots of tracks (and Steinbolt/Iambic Poetry 9/50 Cycles never fail to turn me on) do any of you think the whole thing is a bit of a mess in terms of production, mastering, and general layout? I know it's meant to sound "live", and I can appreciate that-but I just find a lot of the elements throughout really annoying. Sometimes a track will be really enjoyable, and then a big wanky bass guitar solo comes in at 10db higher than anything else. Or something.
sorry for the irrelevant post.
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ecnadniarb
on 2005-03-22 13:49 [#01540927]
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Good topic...wank album.
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earthleakage
from tell the world you're winning on 2005-03-22 13:50 [#01540928]
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no, i think its good. i also think you get off ripping records apart with your over indulgent criticism which i find rather tiresome. can't you just enjoy something for what it is?
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tridenti
from Milano (Italy) on 2005-03-22 13:50 [#01540930]
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i've got ultravisitor, is a good album!
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r40f
from qrters tea party on 2005-03-22 13:51 [#01540931]
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there's a couple of good tracks, i guess... i don't like this album, though.
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ecnadniarb
on 2005-03-22 13:52 [#01540932]
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Wank topic...good album.
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elusive
from detroit (United States) on 2005-03-22 13:52 [#01540933]
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tetra sync is perfect
except when he shitfuks it at the end with that uuber loud and annoying bass note (like you're saying)
goid it kills EVERYTHING
F#@#T@
LOL TUBA
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ecnadniarb
on 2005-03-22 13:53 [#01540934]
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Wank topic...wank album.
THE END.
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CS2x
from London (United Kingdom) on 2005-03-22 13:55 [#01540940]
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earthleakage, yes I can enjoy music and I do enjoy Ultravisitor. But since this messageboard is supposed to be about discussing music, I think it is fine to criticize and discuss an album's merits, no?
And no, I couldn't do any better, and I still love Squarepusher.
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earthleakage
from tell the world you're winning on 2005-03-22 13:58 [#01540944]
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ok tell me whats the problem is with the production and the mastering and the general layout
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elusive
from detroit (United States) on 2005-03-22 14:00 [#01540949]
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let's criticize earth's music
see how he feels.
::puts defensive hat on::
LOL
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CS2x
from London (United Kingdom) on 2005-03-22 14:03 [#01540956]
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Things like this:
"tetra sync is perfect
except when he shitfuks it at the end with that uuber loud and annoying bass note (like you're saying)"
Are you really interested or is it just a case of wanting to catch someone out?
Anyway, I am not the only person who finds the mastering and production annoying here; I have read it plenty of times on here and WATMM. As for the layout-it simply drags on at almost 80 minutes, and I find tracks like "An Arched Pathway" or some of the bass guitar solo tracks boring irrelevant (although one or two are quite beautiful.)
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CS2x
from London (United Kingdom) on 2005-03-22 14:05 [#01540958]
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*boring and irrelevant
And please don't start getting insulting, it's only an album and people can criticize it as much or as little as they want.
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Atli
from ReykjavÃk (Iceland) on 2005-03-22 14:06 [#01540961]
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it's got some got tracks but i really don't like the mastering either.
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ecnadniarb
on 2005-03-22 14:07 [#01540963]
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It's funny the way you always seem to look for others to defend your view point or seek the agreement of others for having a particular viewpoint, just have your own viewpoints and be proud of your viewpoints if you beleive in your viewpoints.
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r40f
from qrters tea party on 2005-03-22 14:07 [#01540964]
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earth is the best buncha junkies that ever strapped on guitars and played one or two riffs in downtuned stupor for twenty minutes at a time. and now they're heralded as avant-garde masters. awesome.
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elusive
from detroit (United States) on 2005-03-22 14:08 [#01540966]
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CS2x, tetra sync has always been my fav.
from the moment i got that 20second clip like 3months before the album was out
i looped it ... more than you can imagine.
tetra sync blows me away, it's the "mt saint michaels" track of ultravisitor
it's just
the end
that bass is so loud and obnoxious ... it almost ruins it for me - i always have to turn it down before the bass hits ... its so loud !
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elusive
from detroit (United States) on 2005-03-22 14:09 [#01540968]
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i like the long production work of it.
i can turn it on and let it play through and roam about the house ... doing chores and the sort.
it's a pretty good background-listening album
you can just let it play and go about your business
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brokephones
from Londontario on 2005-03-22 14:10 [#01540969]
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I can understand how some parts can be considered overly self-indulgant, but I enjoy the album anyway. My favorite track on the album is 50 Cycles.
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CS2x
from London (United Kingdom) on 2005-03-22 14:14 [#01540972]
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Yeah, I love his nonsense rap during that (or perhaps it makes sense and I don't get it) along with the wicked dark drones. Listening to that in the car at night is a stunningly dark and powerful experience.
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dog_belch
from Netherlands, The on 2005-03-22 14:15 [#01540975]
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A flawed yet often diverting pot pourri of bass guitar and computers.
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elusive
from detroit (United States) on 2005-03-22 14:18 [#01540979]
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i hate the extreme loud parts of 50cycles
how it flashes in and out
hurts my ears :(
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CS2x
from London (United Kingdom) on 2005-03-22 14:19 [#01540980]
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Yeah, during the breakdown in that I always have to turn it down. That fucking screeching distortion.
But then the bass riff enters and his ramblings start and it mutates into pure brilliance imo.
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impakt
from where we do not speak of! on 2005-03-22 14:21 [#01540983]
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I've actually masturbated to tetra-sync more than once :\
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elusive
from detroit (United States) on 2005-03-22 14:21 [#01540984]
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tetra sync or 50
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acid_polic3
from london (United Kingdom) on 2005-03-22 14:46 [#01541023]
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love it.
i think it has a slightly earthy feel, not really full on electro rave up style of old. i just hope he moves forward after this,but then again no need to hope, sire jenkinson does so most often.
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mrgypsum
on 2005-03-22 15:30 [#01541072]
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i like it a lot, i think he tried something new mixed with something old, as in something new - classical music spliced with jazz and cut together with fast beats
mixed with something old - squarepushers sound - its been the same since feed me wierd things, but i didnt expect him to change his sound
he is a great artist, up there with rdj and the like.
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E-man
from Rixensart (Belgium) on 2005-03-22 15:53 [#01541093]
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i think the bad production you describe is what i really love about this album...
the headroom present in most track allowing sounds to burst may be annoying at first, but it makes the album really alive imo, sounding not so static...
it's like badly overproduced pop-music is quickly tiring for the ear because volume doesn't vary much, it is fatiguing because of the loudness and boring because of the lack of movement.
you may not like it, but saying thing like it's badly mastered (do you even really know what it means?) or badly produced is a bit stupid.
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weatheredstoner
from same shit babes. (United States) on 2005-03-22 16:21 [#01541133]
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I think its a great album, one of his best. Very conceptual and different from everything else i've ever heard, even though it draws from lots of influences. I enjoy the crappy mastering, the whole album just has a nice feel to it.
Finally I'll say this: IT'S NOT A HEADPHONE ALBUM! An IDM record thats not suitable on headphones? HOLY SHIT
Bring that shit outside and put it on some nice speakers.
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ymenard
on 2005-03-22 18:19 [#01541222]
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Come to Daddy ain't much a headphone album imho. I mean I was listening to it, and it struck me how mono-ish 90% of the album is. Behind the layers and layers of fucked up sounds for it's time, it's very simplified for it's productions. Sounds are panned perhaps 25% each way of center, and it's very natural and flowing the way the elements are presented (percussions, ambiants, synths, etc...)
Still, there are some magical moments in that production, where for like, 5 seconds, sometimes even half a second Richard will fuck up the whole thing and send the entire track, or perhaps half of the elements into some weird filter only a guy like him could program, and the entire thing goes WHOA! into the stereo seperation for an incredible effect.
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evolume
from seattle (United States) on 2005-03-22 18:27 [#01541227]
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that guy is such a jerk. i heard he punched pomme de terre's mom in the mouth or something!
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