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Empiricus
from South Carolina (United States) on 2005-03-22 13:18 [#01540884]
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Hey, you dig Gang Gang Dance - what do you think about these guys? I just picked up their new one "Burned Mind" and I'm "listening" (i.e. being subjected) to it now. I fucking dig it!
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Empiricus
from South Carolina (United States) on 2005-03-22 13:36 [#01540904]
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On the subject of Gang Gang Dance, I just saw that they have a new album being released on April 25th entitled "God's Money". When I was at the Animal Collective show in Brooklyn last month an album or something was played over the sound system. I hope to God it was the new GGD because it was incredible.
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r40f
from qrters tea party on 2005-03-22 13:38 [#01540909]
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wolf eyes is really cool... that's really good album and i also recommend it. it's a really distinctive sounding noise record.
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Empiricus
from South Carolina (United States) on 2005-03-22 13:43 [#01540919]
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I was initially attracted to it because they sounded slightly more beat/rythmically oriented than most noise acts. Case in point is the track "Ancient Delay". Being a huge fan of really early eara SWANS, this got my attention.
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r40f
from qrters tea party on 2005-03-22 13:44 [#01540923]
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yeah, that's what i like about it as well - the noisy rhythms. it didn't make me think of the swans, though (i love their early stuff as well). i should listen to it again - i haven't in a while.
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Empiricus
from South Carolina (United States) on 2005-03-22 13:50 [#01540929]
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Like any Godflesh as well? Obvious SWANS influence. I have been listening to Pure since I was 15, but I have yet to pick up Street Cleaner.
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r40f
from qrters tea party on 2005-03-22 13:54 [#01540938]
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nah... i admit i've heard very little godflesh and everyone tells me it's great, but i just don't like what i've heard at all. not my thing.
i could see the influence, but the swans created their own world... nobody does it like they did. :) they've become one of my favorite bands rather quickly.
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Empiricus
from South Carolina (United States) on 2005-03-22 14:01 [#01540951]
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I agree with that. I have only been into SWANS for slightly over a year, but all the early stuff is in my top all-time albums list (especially Public Castration is a Good Idea).
Boom..............Ba Da............BOOM...............BA DA
Money........................is flesh......................
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r40f
from qrters tea party on 2005-03-22 14:03 [#01540957]
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i've heard of that but i don't have it yet. is that a live record?
i've got the FILTH / BODY TO BODY, JOB TO JOB cd... cop is next on my list :) FILTH is a masterpiece for sure. brilliant in concept and perfectly executed music - a fully realised extreme music. they really never got their due for that early stuff.
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Empiricus
from South Carolina (United States) on 2005-03-22 14:31 [#01541003]
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I can't believe you haven't heard that record!!! Public Castration was my first experience with SWANS and it totally floored me. This is SWANS at their slowest and most threatening. Intense. Scary intense. Get that record post-haste and tell me what you think!
Filth is very cool, almost danceable. However, Cop is probably my favorite studio recording. Filth is my second favorite tied with Greed/Holy Money.
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r40f
from qrters tea party on 2005-03-22 14:37 [#01541009]
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great! i will get it asap. :D
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2005-03-22 14:58 [#01541037]
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uh, awesome, i don't know wolf eyes yet, i'll check them out asap though, thanks!
and looking forward to that new ggd album!!
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DeadEight
from vancouver (Canada) on 2005-03-22 15:14 [#01541058]
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i dig Wolf Eyes quite a bit, but i'm not such a fan of Burned Mind... Stabbed in the Face is pretty awesome but the rest of the album was... i dunno, maybe a bit to rocky? if you like the beat-driven noise-thing, then maybe try to find Slicer or Lost Sockets... both older Wolf Eyes releases that have that sort of thing going on... but really there's plenty of awesome Wolf Eyes, Dread and Dead Hills are two other excellent WE releases, imo... heavy shit
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plantre
from United States on 2005-03-22 16:39 [#01541148]
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wolf eyes > merzbow
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DeadEight
from vancouver (Canada) on 2005-03-22 16:45 [#01541152]
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agreed
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DeadEight
from vancouver (Canada) on 2005-03-22 16:46 [#01541155]
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but then again, i can think of a lot of noise acts that i prefer over both Wolf Eyes and Merzbow...
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Empiricus
from South Carolina (United States) on 2005-03-22 21:48 [#01541321]
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I have 4 Merzbow albums and I really dig two of them. 1930 and Merzbird are really good if taken as auditory sculpture. Especially 1930.
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Empiricus
from South Carolina (United States) on 2005-03-22 21:51 [#01541322]
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A lot more "noise" oriented than GGD, but I know you like this type of stuff a little as well. You a SWANS fan perchance?
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Empiricus
from South Carolina (United States) on 2005-03-22 21:52 [#01541324]
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How about you DeadEight, have you heard the good news? SWANS have risen. Seriously, are you a SWANS fan?
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2005-03-23 07:43 [#01541583]
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thanks, i'll be getting those! and thanks for that other thing - that things is totally amazing..im really thrilled with that :)
empiricus, i already checked out wolf eyes collaboration with smegma and it sounded awesome - not really noise but real nice stuff (i've only listened to it once so i can't comment on it quite yet, but it sounded real nice on first listen).
as for swans, im no expert but i like some of their album a lot!
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Empiricus
from South Carolina (United States) on 2005-03-23 14:43 [#01541948]
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Awesome
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DeadEight
from vancouver (Canada) on 2005-03-23 17:05 [#01542128]
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i've always wanted to get into the Swans, but i'm a bit intimidated by their catalogue... i've heard some of the post-Swans stuff like Angels of the Light and Jarboe, but that's about it...
what do you think is the best place to start?
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Empiricus
from South Carolina (United States) on 2005-03-23 21:56 [#01542430]
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Easy. Get "Public Castration is a Good Idea" (live - my personal introduction to the masters) or the reissue on Young God records, the CD which includes 3 albums "Cop/Fool/Holy Money. If you dig those two pick up Filth/Body to Body, Job to Job and/or Children of God (more melodic and starting in the more goth/acoustic direction that I'm not so enthralled with personally) You will either hate them or be totally changed.
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Empiricus
from South Carolina (United States) on 2005-03-23 22:11 [#01542435]
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Now, mind you I like the heavy as a motherfucker, I'm going to blow my brains out on network television in prime-time type SWANS shit. If you're not suicidal, this stuff, in proper doses, will make you question your continued existence. That being said, anyone not already seriously predisposed to voluntary self-extermination should experience it at least once.
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Amnesiac
from ERIE (United States) on 2005-03-23 23:27 [#01542450]
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i like the album he did with black dice
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Amnesiac
from ERIE (United States) on 2005-03-23 23:28 [#01542451]
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or they, is it a group or a guy?
impossible to know these days
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DeadEight
from vancouver (Canada) on 2005-03-23 23:29 [#01542452]
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it's a "they": Aaron Dilloway, John Olson, and Nate Young
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mashnote
from mol (Belgium) on 2005-03-24 08:16 [#01542670]
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i saw Smegma last week. It was an incredible show: weird, funny and hypnotic at the same time.
wolf eyes are great, especially dead hills, etc.. live they're awesome too, they're touring europe again in june i think. check them out.
and gang gang dance are touring too, with Excepter (!!).
so many good shows in the near future..
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r40f
from qrters tea party on 2005-03-24 08:24 [#01542677]
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the later-period swans is as intense as the early stuff, but in an opposite way. i love their later works at least as much as the early stuff. but at first listen, it really sounds like two different bands. it's the two opposite sides of the same coin.
so check out what empiricus says, but also listen to The Great Annihilator cd.
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r40f
from qrters tea party on 2005-03-24 08:25 [#01542678]
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Children of God is the turning point of the two periods and it is a great album, but it is one of the most difficult to get into, imo. it's really a challenging listen, whereas their other albums were much more obvious.
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2005-03-24 10:00 [#01542783]
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ohh awesome!! any dates and venues yet??
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mashnote
from mol (Belgium) on 2005-03-24 10:31 [#01542811]
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i don't know about exact dates/venues except for the belgian one. sorry.
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2005-03-24 11:21 [#01542854]
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np, thanks for saying, i'll keep my eyes open..i was trying to find something on google, but i can't even find their official site :)
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mashnote
from mol (Belgium) on 2005-03-24 14:56 [#01543030]
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http://www.wolfeyes.net/
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