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offline OK on 2002-02-12 06:06 [#00086046]
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can someone define that for me please?

use examples if you want.

thanks


 

offline OK on 2002-02-12 06:07 [#00086047]
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i meant breakbeat sorry.


 

offline Taxidermist from Black Grass on 2002-02-12 06:09 [#00086048]
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a break. Its kinda hard to explain. Usually old school funk
beats that have been sampled and used to death (ie; Amen,
Funky Drummer). Do a websearch for 'Breakbeat Sample Wav
Download' and you should come up with a few examples that
would give you a better idea than and description.


 

offline OK on 2002-02-12 06:41 [#00086061]
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well i think i half get it.


 

offline IronLung from the 91fwy in soCAL (United States) on 2002-02-12 08:30 [#00086106]
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boom snap boomdaboom snap


 

offline nacmat on 2002-02-12 08:36 [#00086111]
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i couldnt tell exactly what breakbeat is... neither could
name some artists that do it... could anybody help with
that?


 

offline Bugpowder from Swansea (United Kingdom) on 2002-02-12 08:36 [#00086113]
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Best way to describe Breakbeat is Fat Boy Slim with alot
more scraches and drum riffs

I like it!


 

offline IronLung from the 91fwy in soCAL (United States) on 2002-02-12 08:37 [#00086114]
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Prodigy...Crystal Method...Hybrid


 

offline Bugpowder from Swansea (United Kingdom) on 2002-02-12 08:41 [#00086117]
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Prodigy?????Breakbeat??????

Ronisize, Fullcycle, Krust, Djsuv


 

offline jand from Braintree (United Kingdom) on 2002-02-12 08:52 [#00086122]
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The term comes from old funk records where the all the other
instruments drop out and just the drummer plays solo...

i.e. Time for a Break...

Early DJs found that kids would dance like shit to the break
and so in an effort to extend the action, so to speak,
they'd mix 2 copies of the records, with one playing the
breakbeat...and then the other and swicharound again and so
on....

Most famous example would be Funky Drummer by James
Brown...have a listen to the original & you'll hear the
break that lauched a thousand carreers...

Nowadays, instead of using 2 records, producers just sample
the required bars : say 1 or 2 bars of the break, and then
loop it....giving you a complete rhythm track to build
upon....

Thats the gist of it...



 

offline jand from Braintree (United Kingdom) on 2002-02-12 08:58 [#00086129]
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In terms of genre, Breakbeat is generally used to describe
tracks that are built around these sampled & looped drum
breaks...

People like me old muckers The Prodigy etc...

Further developments in using breaks come from cutting the
break into different parts and then resequencing the parts
in whatever order to create whole new rhytms...the breaks
are often speed up or down using Timestetching or Pitch
Shifting which creates whole new rhytmic textures ...

Notable examples of this are the obvious Amen break, which
forms the basis of most DnB , Jungle etc...(even AFX has
used it...)...but there are loads of others that get
used..Apache, Think etc...Generally named after the record
they come from...



 

offline IronLung from the 91fwy in soCAL (United States) on 2002-02-12 08:59 [#00086132]
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Wow....I would have never put Roni Size or Krust in a
"breakbeat" catagory...but hey...to each his own....



 

offline jand from Braintree (United Kingdom) on 2002-02-12 09:00 [#00086134]
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oh yeah...forgot to mention HipHop (how could I forget the
master, the originator???) ...thats the real root of using
Breakbeats for rhythm trax....

I'll get on with some work now...

Hope this helps...


 

offline jand from Braintree (United Kingdom) on 2002-02-12 09:02 [#00086136]
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The trouble is there is a genre called Breakbeat that cover
peeps like the Prodge, CM etc... but loads of other forms of
music rely on breaks also, altho they're not labeled as
"Breakbeat"...Roni Size, krust etc...all jungle/DnB relies
on break beats for the rhythm (tho they are, like I said,
generally a lot more creative and don't just "LOOP 2 Bars"
etc...)..



 

offline Archrival on 2002-02-12 09:18 [#00086141]
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Squarepusher uses BREAk beats to death.

amen break - The winstons

Melvin Bliss break is a very nice one.


 

offline jand from Braintree (United Kingdom) on 2002-02-12 09:26 [#00086149]
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Yeah, I think that where AFX got over his adversion to using
breaks...Tom J certainly hasn't got any quarms about using
the standards...(That said, a lot of Aphex rhythms are
recreations of classic drum loops..generally redone on a
drumM or Sampler)...


 

offline OK on 2002-02-12 17:24 [#00086466]
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thanks everyone.


 

offline Ceri JC from Jefferson City (United States) on 2002-02-12 20:40 [#00086647]
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Archrival: Squarepusher IS a breakbeat ;)


 

offline Chri5py from my Solarbear (United Kingdom) on 2002-02-12 23:36 [#00086873]
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Breakbeat Era... I love it!

I thought Break beats were fairly individual sharp drum
beats that get cleanly chopped up? Am I wrong?


 

offline kalaim badkaama from Apt 512 in Gilmour Orbiter (Re on 2002-02-12 23:48 [#00086890]
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Well. Breakbeat... Y trying to explain?
If you go to my mp3.com page, there's an explaination called
Kommando Gegen terrorismus. 8)
www.mp3.com/kalaim_bk.



 


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