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Taxidermist
from Black Grass on 2005-03-11 01:38 [#01529152]
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Argh. There is way too much of this comming out nowadays. But aside from the occasional concept album by mr funk, this genre has seemed to homogonize itself all too completely. Its really present when you look at labels like planet-mu, who were releasing some really interesting stuff for a while. Now all that seems to come out of it is boring distorted breaks. Jega's geometry was breathtaking, but the new one, varience has some amazing and beautifull songs on it, but they all get throttled when the breakcore song after it turns up. And billbious paths was something I think most people wouldn't mind ignoring (well, at least I wouldn't). Anyways, I just wanted to rant about that.
->)-PEACE-(<-
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-crazone
from smashing acid over and over on 2005-03-11 02:00 [#01529155]
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"Jega's geometry was breathtaking, but the new one, varience has some amazing and beautifull songs on it"
you're probably right..but how do you know?
and breakcore doesnt bore me yet..
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Neto
from Ecatepec (Mexico) on 2005-03-11 02:07 [#01529156]
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when you reach this point, I highly recommend a healthy dose of cheesy euphoric trance music
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CS2x
from London (United Kingdom) on 2005-03-11 02:10 [#01529157]
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In England it's called drill 'n' bass, isn't it?
Well, I agree the genre is getting a bit stale, but only because too many people are mashing up samples and breaks and forgetting the other side of things imho. I think many albums in that style are wicked fun, but things need to move forward and get more musical and perhaps even more extream; loads of those albums sound like one another with similar mashups and DSP-trickery-hows about some interesting musical elements, or synth work, or even live playing thrown in? Squarepusher's "Go Plasitc" and Venetian Snare's Chrome album (forgot the full title) show me that there's a lot of potential yet.
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Matvey
from Kiev (Ukraine) on 2005-03-11 02:10 [#01529158]
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come on, it's just because you play it not loud enough!!!
PUMP UP THE VOLUME!!!
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Taxidermist
from Black Grass on 2005-03-11 02:32 [#01529169]
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Yeah. I like the chrome cylinder album, and that crazy german sounding title album... but most snares stuff is kind of boring IMO. As well, kid 606 occasionally breathes some life into it, but there is only so much cpr one can take...
I was just kind of sad about the direction Mu has been taking, and wanted to vent.
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furoi
from Udine (Eriko Sato's undies) (Italy) on 2005-03-11 02:57 [#01529174]
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i thought drill'n'bass is just without distorted snare drums
anyway there is a stagnation of the music lately zzzzzz
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CS2x
from London (United Kingdom) on 2005-03-11 03:04 [#01529177]
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I'm getting bored of all the ragga samples being thrown in. And random samples just thrown into insane breaks with seemingly no thought, period.
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CS2x
from London (United Kingdom) on 2005-03-11 03:04 [#01529179]
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Actually the above is a lie. There's nothing better to rave to than that kind of stuff, imho.
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Bob Mcbob
on 2005-03-11 03:20 [#01529188]
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waitaminute... drill n bass is breakcore? you mean americans have renamed another of out words?
Bastards!
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DJ Xammax
from not America on 2005-03-11 03:28 [#01529192]
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No.
Drill'n'bass = highly complex beats of any kind
Breakcore = hardcore breaks, usually a distorted kick thrown in
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furoi
from Udine (Eriko Sato's undies) (Italy) on 2005-03-11 04:28 [#01529223]
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i told that!
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Taxidermist
from Black Grass on 2005-03-11 04:57 [#01529238]
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Breakcore is the word Mike Paradinas uses to describe the heavy break style music that has been popular lately. Stuff like vsnares and shitmat and what have you...
I like gabba when its done correctly, but I don't like the random sounding overly complex breaks.
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E-man
from Rixensart (Belgium) on 2005-03-11 07:40 [#01529367]
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lol @ highly complex beats of any kind! is it really suposed to mean something? i'm perplexed, drill'n' bass must be a very old genre!
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tallyho
from Vladivostok (Russia) on 2005-03-11 07:42 [#01529371]
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...or metal.
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DJ Xammax
from not America on 2005-03-11 08:19 [#01529384]
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I was merely describing it in a nutshell. I suppose it sounds a bit vague, hopefully Bob isn't as big a pedant as you.
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weatheredstoner
from same shit babes. (United States) on 2005-03-11 08:27 [#01529390]
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Um, I dont like breakcore but Bilious Paths is ace. And I wouldn't consider Geometry to be breakcore at all.
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somejerk
from south florida, US (United States) on 2005-03-11 08:51 [#01529426]
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drill = lots of stutters in the drums breakcore = really fucking mashed up, crunchy shit
personally, i'm more into jazzcore..
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virginpusher
from County Clare on 2005-03-11 08:56 [#01529431]
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drill contains fluxuation in higher BPM
breakcore usually tends to have a set pace as drill can really be all over the map
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acid_polic3
from london (United Kingdom) on 2005-03-11 09:00 [#01529435]
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aicd is better. but kid606 isnt breakcore imo , it's too light hearted, love him all the more that , whos till kill sound is very amusing stoned.
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i_x_ten
from arsemuncher on 2005-03-11 09:31 [#01529459]
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yes his last two albums have been stupid fun, and highly enjoyable
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hedphukkerr
from mathbotton (United States) on 2005-03-11 10:41 [#01529497]
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i just picked up p.s. i love you and well.... p.s. i love it sorry, bad pun
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magicant
from Canada on 2005-03-11 10:45 [#01529501]
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YES.
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boobah
from pants on 2005-03-11 11:02 [#01529518]
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speaking of planet-mu, is anyone else here a big fan of TIM EXILE ??
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isnieZot
from pooptown (Belgium) on 2005-03-11 11:07 [#01529526]
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the line between drill&bass and breakcore is pretty thin. but drill&bass has "complex" breakbeats with a more coherent structure then breakcore. something like druqks for example. or stuff that squarepusher does. or The Flashbulb. this has complex beats with a clear structure and elements that "normal" songs have. like: melody,bass, etc,...
Breakcore is drill&bass taken a step further. and is usally mixed with hardcore or ragga. also most of it (not all of it) has lesser (or no) melody and focusses more on the breaks and rythems. it is also noisier then drill&bass. and features a distorted bassdrum. (not always ofcourse)
ps. calling Geometry a breakcore album is an insult btw. where exactly do you hear the "core"? it isn't even drill&bass.
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furoi
from Udine (Eriko Sato's undies) (Italy) on 2005-03-11 11:37 [#01529565]
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i agree i told you!
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thecrimsonguard
from ∞ (United States) on 2005-03-11 11:48 [#01529577]
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boards of breakcore?
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Exaph
from United Kingdom on 2005-03-11 11:55 [#01529582]
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i agree that its kinda boring - more just painful to me but at the end of the day if you dont like it just ignore it; planet mu may change their output when money starts getting tighter.
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weatheredstoner
from same shit babes. (United States) on 2005-03-11 16:23 [#01529925]
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Breakcore is for all the goth kids who don't want to be goth anymore and they got bored with Skinny Puppy and trance music but still wanted to keep their scary counterculture image but only ended up creating a new easily defineable genre that is just as annoying and gay as goth.
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DJ Xammax
from not America on 2005-03-11 16:31 [#01529929]
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Where did you get this incredibly veracious information from?
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Messageboard index
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