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stefano_azevedo
from Pindorama (Brazil) on 2005-03-08 18:15 [#01526162]
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most say that idm is not good as it was in the 90s. but: best rich - drukqs (2001) best tom - ultravisitor (2004) best mike - bilious paths (2003) best luke - YosepH (2003) best ae or best plaid doesnt matter.
so id say the 00s are doing great too. but than:
RDJ album - 1996 and that was his best to date. Than we had some nice eps and than we had drukqs, the best idm album ever. Since drukqs:
-the shitie compilation 26 mixes; -the ridiculous smojphace; -the poor analord series and: how much will we wait till next richard's "best release till date"?
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adam
from londonidium (United Kingdom) on 2005-03-08 18:17 [#01526164]
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idm is stupid
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ambsace
from canaDUH. on 2005-03-08 18:17 [#01526165]
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ultravisitor has two of his best tracks, but on the whole i didn't like it. wank-a-licious.
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2005-03-08 18:19 [#01526167]
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you say that only because you weren't born in the 90's yet, am i right?
i agree on drukqs tho :)
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i_x_ten
from arsemuncher on 2005-03-08 18:23 [#01526170]
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enojoy your stolen music. thief
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rudster
from the glasgow on 2005-03-08 18:27 [#01526174]
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he will you know
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stefano_azevedo
from Pindorama (Brazil) on 2005-03-08 18:29 [#01526176]
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i was born in 88, but i just started listening idm in 2oo3, so you are somewhat right.
i_x_ten: my stolen music is the same as your bough, but ilicit
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adam
from londonidium (United Kingdom) on 2005-03-08 18:47 [#01526197]
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No it isn't, it's sub standard low grade perforated digital clonery devoid of ethics. If you weren't listening to mp3's on your mums Dell PC speakers you might develop a clue.
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adam
from londonidium (United Kingdom) on 2005-03-08 18:47 [#01526198]
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idm is dumb
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earthleakage
from tell the world you're winning on 2005-03-08 18:48 [#01526200]
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what's wrong with dell pc speakers, may i ask?
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rudster
from the glasgow on 2005-03-08 18:49 [#01526202]
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stefanos speakers
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Dannn_
from United Kingdom on 2005-03-08 18:50 [#01526203]
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luke, mike, and tom peaked waaaaay back, although I wish to add that I am not in the current ultravisitor slagging crew
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stefano_azevedo
from Pindorama (Brazil) on 2005-03-08 18:53 [#01526209]
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"Hi. I'm Sherriff Rudster (ret)"
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rudster
from the glasgow on 2005-03-08 18:59 [#01526216]
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John Bunnel is the godfather of law enforcement,
on a sidenote that is my Bluetooth name for my mobile
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stefano_azevedo
from Pindorama (Brazil) on 2005-03-08 19:01 [#01526221]
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a.k.a. Frank Butcher
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rudster
from the glasgow on 2005-03-08 19:03 [#01526224]
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i posted those pics ages ago
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zguru
from Lindale (Texas) (United States) on 2005-03-08 19:19 [#01526260]
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i think the definition has become blurry
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adam
from londonidium (United Kingdom) on 2005-03-08 19:21 [#01526268]
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i think the definition is not
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rettic
on 2005-03-08 19:24 [#01526274]
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bilious paths is awful.
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zguru
from Lindale (Texas) (United States) on 2005-03-08 19:24 [#01526275]
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then define it
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zguru
from Lindale (Texas) (United States) on 2005-03-08 19:32 [#01526290]
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is idm defined by a few artists/record labels? where do you draw the line.
example: squarepusher has some stuff that i would classify as more jazz than idm
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adam
from londonidium (United Kingdom) on 2005-03-08 19:35 [#01526293]
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idm is ridiculous
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zguru
from Lindale (Texas) (United States) on 2005-03-08 19:36 [#01526296]
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yes
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adam
from londonidium (United Kingdom) on 2005-03-08 19:37 [#01526297]
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exactly. what line?
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AlbertoBalsalm
from ReykjavÃk (Iceland) on 2005-03-08 19:38 [#01526299]
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IDM isn't a genre -AlbertoBalsalm
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uviol
from United States on 2005-03-08 19:49 [#01526317]
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IDM is the most loosey goosey genre ever because it attempts to include some sense of an ideology in addition to a 'sound'.
that's why the line's 'fuzzy'
soooo.....
Q: Is the Postal Service IDM? it sounds like it! A: No.
Q: Is Steve Reich IDM? It's intelligent! A: No.
Q: Is DJ Dara drum n' bass? A: Yes.
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dog_belch
from Netherlands, The on 2005-03-08 20:48 [#01526410]
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best rich - drukqs (2001) (WRONG it was "SAW 85-92" in, umm 1992)
best tom - ultravisitor (2004)(WRONG it was "Feed me weird things" in, umm 1996)
best mike - bilious paths (2003)(WRONG it was "Tango N'Vectif" in, umm 1993)
best luke - YosepH (2003) (WRONG it was "Big Soup" in, umm 1997)
best ae or best plaid doesnt matter.(WRONG it was "Incunabula" in, umm 1993)
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adam
from londonidium (United Kingdom) on 2005-03-08 21:23 [#01526441]
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let's draw the line there
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mappatazee
from ¨y¨z¨| (Burkina Faso) on 2005-03-08 21:33 [#01526445]
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Nobody likes you.
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adam
from londonidium (United Kingdom) on 2005-03-08 21:56 [#01526452]
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I do, so that's one more than you already
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thecurbcreeper
from United States on 2005-03-08 22:33 [#01526458]
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Incunabula
ewwwwwwwwww
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b0nk
from 1969 in the sunshine (United States) on 2005-03-09 00:04 [#01526469]
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if idm is "dead" then whats next?
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imdex
from Argentina on 2005-03-09 00:07 [#01526470]
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just... we are technotronic makers!
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Taxidermist
from Black Grass on 2005-03-09 00:35 [#01526474]
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Naw. I would say that IDM really sucked early 90's peaked once when afx released Select Ambient Works Volume Two, and then peaked again in 2000 when Æ released EP7. After EP7, IDM seemed to kind of shatter itself, and really can't be discussed specifically as IDM anymore. Now it seems to be Drill n bass, ambient, glitch, microsound, microhouse, industrial, acid, etc. I guess if you like stuff like drill n bass then it might have peaked for you around 96, cause thats when it was still fresh, and so many people were releasing great albums.
So far for me, it seems to be 98-02 that was the time for this music, cause thats when a lot of the seminal glitch albums were released; LP5, Geometry, EP7, Lipswitch, Brown Out, Vocal Studies and Uprock Narritives, Now You Know... just to name a few.
I don't really ever look at the future with dread, or the past with too much admiration, cause I know there is always going to be some amazing music comming out.
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Atli
from ReykjavÃk (Iceland) on 2005-03-09 01:47 [#01526486]
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it's never gonna "peak" because people can never agree on what is good and what isn't. some say that draft suck others say that it's a masterpiece. that's the way of idm (and yes, it's a silly name but people use it anyway).
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obara
from Utrecht on 2005-03-09 02:29 [#01526504]
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"best ae or best plaid doesnt matter"
- with that one innocent little faggin remark you signed death sentence for yourself
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Taxidermist
from Black Grass on 2005-03-09 02:34 [#01526507]
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I love it when people post their opionion, and then other people tell them their opinion is wrong because opinions differ. Its like saying someones voice is ugly because peoples voices are different.
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obara
from Utrecht on 2005-03-09 02:41 [#01526510]
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Taxis i know but Stefano says bulllshit - that sentence is like having a poopy on everything Plaid or Ae did.
well, maybe it's just the case that i will accept such an opinion from anyone here except Stefano - cause he just doesn't faggin know what he's talking about.
i just get pissed off reading his posts - mostly
alright, i'm calm now
i'm gonna count to 10 next time before i decide to comment his opinions
[aaarrgh]
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obara
from Utrecht on 2005-03-09 02:46 [#01526513]
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oh, silly me, i thought that was a follow up to me, oops :P
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Taxidermist
from Black Grass on 2005-03-09 03:22 [#01526530]
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Yeah. Its all good. That was a pretty funny rant though :)
I think stefano_azevedo's poor taste in 'best albums' should really speak for itself. Yoseph is good, but doesn't even hold a birthday candle to musipal (which, imo, is luke viberts shining moment).
Anyways I am kinda started to get tired off all the flaming for the sake of flaming that seems to go on in here. If somebody actually has a point to make, then make it. I think its kind of funny when you are agreeing with someone, and they go around and take one little word you say, and then turn it around, making it into a 10 post argument because they didn't read your first post properly.
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obara
from Utrecht on 2005-03-09 03:43 [#01526546]
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you mean that recent Reason thread ? i fav+'d it cause i consider trying reason. comparing software is kinda difficult, cause it all depends on various things.
well i didn't really mean to bash Stefano-San - i got pissed with that post cause i immediately thought about Plaid - spokes album - and how i can't stop listening to it for its structures, mixing [...] and how great album that is
and not IMO only, so...
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Taxidermist
from Black Grass on 2005-03-09 03:57 [#01526554]
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Not just the reason thread. That was a good example though. Those pro-reason people were attacking people who didn't rave about reason, not becuase they dissagreed on the program really, but because the other people didn't 100% agree with them. Its the way this mb has always been, but its stupid. I used to do that from time to time, but I decided I didn't need to anymore, so I have pretty much stopped, cause it was stupid.
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redrum
from the allman brothers band (Ireland) on 2005-03-09 04:43 [#01526578]
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this is a shit thread.
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2005-03-09 06:19 [#01526650]
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yes.
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Skink
from A cesspool in eden on 2005-03-09 06:23 [#01526653]
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i am resisting the urge to play devils advocate.
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2005-03-09 06:26 [#01526656]
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yes.
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Skink
from A cesspool in eden on 2005-03-09 06:28 [#01526657]
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Yes what???
Or am i missing something.
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2005-03-09 06:32 [#01526664]
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yes, you are resisting the urge to play devil's advocate.
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Skink
from A cesspool in eden on 2005-03-09 06:37 [#01526671]
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