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WooferAttack
from Milano (Italy) on 2002-02-11 11:30 [#00085147]
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What do you think about this kind of music? Do you like drill'n'bass a lot or not?
Honestly I like it but not so much, sometime I find it a little bit boring.
I hoped who AFX with new album changed this style of music but instead there are a lot of drill'n'bass songs on DRUKQS.
I find the song "WINDOWLICKER" much more innovative compared with many songs on DRUKQS.
WooÆ’er
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KEN
from BIRMINGHAM (United Kingdom) on 2002-02-11 11:33 [#00085152]
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i love drill and bass-the faster the darker the more gabbier the better-LETS HEAR IT FOR 'VENETIAN SNARES'!!!!
i dont really like windowlicker-its ok but...erm doesnt twist my melon as much as cock ver 10...know what i mean?
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Fernz
from A Scottish Wanker (United Kingdom) on 2002-02-11 11:48 [#00085168]
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Aaaah... Venetian Snares! :)
Drill and bass is great in small doses coz it all kinda sounds the same after a few hours. Personally I was expecting Drukqs to sound like 2 REMIXES BY AFX, Come To Daddy and Squarepusher's GO PLASTIC. Guess not then... :)
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nacmat
on 2002-02-11 12:01 [#00085182]
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i still not sure of what drill n bass is... but i like drukqs and windowlicker and go plastic and everything made by these fucking genious...
i am with big loada now and its fantastic
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nacmat
on 2002-02-11 12:02 [#00085183]
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BTW i need to find a good squarepusher site... any suggestions?
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Phresch
from fucking Trondheim (Norway) on 2002-02-11 12:05 [#00085185]
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drill'n'bass...hmmm. Distortion i prob. a key element...hard, fast, distorted beats.
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REFLEX
from Edmonton, Alberta (Canada) on 2002-02-11 12:24 [#00085197]
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Drill N Bass? It doesnt really take too much talent to make a lot of Drill N' Bass its taking something more simple and making that sound really good, that is hard to do .
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WooferAttack
from Milano (Italy) on 2002-02-11 13:52 [#00085288]
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I agreed.
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awt
from kristianstad (Sweden) on 2002-02-11 13:56 [#00085291]
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even thou its not hard to create it still has its moment. You know when you just want BBBRRRRRRRRRRRRRding. I guess almost all music has its moment.
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dave
from saskatoon (Canada) on 2002-02-11 14:11 [#00085304]
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i think it's really hard to make drill and bass, because if you just think of it as a bunch of snare rushes and crazy ness, sure it might sound simple but it's accually pritty compilcated, i like drill and bass because of the technicality , i played some for my frend who normally listens to rap and punk and he thought it was crazy shit that would make you go insane, ive tryed to make a good drill and bass song and ive found that it's really hard to make the beats sound right.
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od_step_cloak
from Pleth (Australia) on 2002-02-11 14:13 [#00085305]
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yair its hard. its piss easy to make crap drill tracks, you just boost the tempo and do randorm drums.
but thats crap. you have to know drum sequence structures pretty well to do decent stuff.
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wizards teeth
from Newcastle (United Kingdom) on 2002-02-11 14:17 [#00085311]
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I find using delay sometimes helps to meld sounds together
also using a sweeping effect from left to right
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aron
from saskatoon (Canada) on 2002-02-11 14:19 [#00085312]
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i like drill stuff.
programming is fucking easy! or for me at least. but i make crap drill tracks, heh. the melody is the hardest part for me. bye.
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Laserbeak
from Netherlands, The on 2002-02-11 14:44 [#00085321]
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I like variation. If you play one style for too long, it loses power. Drill'n'Bass is best used as the climax track I think. The genre itself is great IMHO...
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Chri5py
from my Solarbear (United Kingdom) on 2002-02-11 14:44 [#00085324]
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For any new people here or people who havent yet done so... why dont you guys rate Aphex releases in the explore section... Drukqs isnt THAT high yet there are alot of people who really love it here. Go on! Reflect your oppinion onto the site!
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Chri5py
from my Solarbear (United Kingdom) on 2002-02-11 14:45 [#00085325]
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please excuse my poor grammaaaaa
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marlowe
from Antarctica on 2002-02-11 14:48 [#00085326]
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why, is she ill? :D
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Chri5py
from my Solarbear (United Kingdom) on 2002-02-11 14:50 [#00085327]
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heh! Blackcurrent drink!
No, she had some nasty cream eggs for lunch so she's now got really rotten guts... It honks around here!
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Sido Dyas
from a computer on 2002-02-11 17:00 [#00085387]
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I agree with Woofer and reflex, it is much harder to create a innovative tune like Windowlicker.
Alltough Aphex drill n bass are much more complicated than anyone else and Squarepusher has made it his specialty.
I don't think much of venetian snares though, that shit is boring.
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Ophecks
from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2002-02-11 17:02 [#00085391]
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Yeah, Venetian Snares bores the shit out of me.
I'm working on a drill type track right now... it's not randomd drums, I'm plotting it out. I kind of like it.
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flea
from depths of your mind (New Zealand) on 2002-02-11 19:50 [#00085484]
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Drill'n'Bass is good when done well, there's some crap drill stuff out there too..KID606..just cant get into his shit..and I don't know if Alec Empire qualifies as Drill'n"Bass but that man REALLY needs to overhaul his loop and sample collection..it's probably because I don't like the punk rap shit laid allover the 606 and Atari stuff
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D-Hex
from Blue Springs Missouri (United States) on 2002-02-11 20:05 [#00085492]
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Woofer, it took balls to admit that you didnt like drill and bass much, and im with you. I liked squarepusher for a while, and lately i just have no intrest in listing to his noisy ass, except for iambic5poetry of course. Aphex, Boards of Canada, Plaid, they know how to make unique beats without the noise, ya know?
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corngrower
from the fertile grounds of Iowa, w (United States) on 2002-02-11 21:54 [#00085585]
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Some drill n' bass is good, but too much is too much. I don't really like tracks which are pure 'hard core' drill 'n bass, but it is good when mixed in well with good melodies.
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big
from lsg on 2002-02-11 22:03 [#00085595]
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i'd say that over-all i'm more into the girl-tracks, like fingerbib,
now, isn't that a confession?
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Ophecks
from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2002-02-11 22:08 [#00085605]
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I LOVE drill and bass, but not too hardcore... not Venetian Snares-hardcore. Complex beats that don't drown the melodies, I love that.
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REFLEX
from Edmonton, Alberta (Canada) on 2002-02-11 22:52 [#00085640]
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If its AFX Drill N' Bass or AFX simple stuff like Caustic Window Or AB3 im 100% going for the simple stuff.. I think it has more igmagination.
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Zombiekev
from Ardmore (United States) on 2002-02-12 00:06 [#00085741]
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drill and bass rocks i love the constant changing frenzy that is smashed into my brain!
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dave
from saskatoon (Canada) on 2002-02-12 00:11 [#00085752]
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yeah drill & bass also gives you different drums rythems that keep you on your toes
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OK
on 2002-02-12 05:17 [#00086036]
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woofer are you kidding?
windowlicker is the archetype of a typical crap song. i'm not saying is crap i just think that rdj was aiming for that when he made it: the perfect crap song
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pachi
from yo momma (United States) on 2002-02-12 06:57 [#00086067]
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Datach'i does that sort of thing. not very serious, though.
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Archrival
on 2002-02-12 07:19 [#00086077]
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I make both trip hop and some drill n base stuff. I think its much harder (it takes longer time with the drum part) to make drill n base than regular hip hop beats.
I like both though.
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Archrival
on 2002-02-12 07:19 [#00086078]
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Windowlicker and Cock Ver10 both rocks.
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WooferAttack
from Milano (Italy) on 2002-02-12 08:05 [#00086098]
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First of all Windowlicker is a really innovative song without any kind of stereopyte. It isn't drill'n'bass, it isn't ambient, it isn't techno, etc...
Th rhythm is really particular with a lot of change, there's a nice soft voice who give special deep effect to the song.
At 4'48" start my fav sound of the song really very aggressive and rumorous, now the song become slow but harsh with a great beat.
I find this track unique without any comparation with others songs, it has a own style. imho.
I can say to Richard, yeah...I love your perfect crap song (but isn't my favourite).
WooÆ’er
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OK
on 2002-02-12 08:17 [#00086101]
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well i don't think it's innovative...
it's like an overproduced pop tune... (andrew WK) hahaha..
that doesn't mean i don't like it.. i think it's great
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WooferAttack
from Milano (Italy) on 2002-02-12 09:48 [#00086166]
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Who is Andrew WK?
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Fernz
from A Scottish Wanker (United Kingdom) on 2002-02-12 09:53 [#00086170]
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I find making drill n bass much easier if you slow the BPM's way down when making the drumloops til you're happy then speed it back up again.
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Fernz
from A Scottish Wanker (United Kingdom) on 2002-02-12 09:54 [#00086172]
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And Andrew WK is some guy who released two very crap singles which apparently "saved rock". I smell shit...
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eXXailon
from purgatory on 2002-02-12 10:18 [#00086178]
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the drums are quite easy to create but it's the melody that requires you to have some imagination. listen to mt saint michel and notice all the 100's of little details RDJ has put into the song.
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big
from lsg on 2002-02-12 13:40 [#00086277]
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isnt it just a electric guitar that comes in at that point of windowlicker, isn't it just a electric guitar on come to daddy that's been geniusly modified afterwords
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awt
from kristianstad (Sweden) on 2002-02-12 15:02 [#00086322]
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I think the hardest part about making drill n bass is to match a good melody. You actully need some connection with the drums and the rest of the song to make it realy good.
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OK
on 2002-02-12 17:18 [#00086463]
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take mt. saint miche.. the beat isn't created only by drums... there ara gaps of melody (ies) that create the effect of drumming. like at the end of the track but not gaps aplied to all...
if you listen mt. saint mich. without headphones at the end it sounds like drumming... with headphones it just sounds like you're going to need a head replacement
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