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Simple music is so much harder to create than complex music...FACT Analord is good, Analord is great. I think this fact may be lost on some (certainly not all) non music makers. The old saying 'Through enough shit and some will stick' is true when it comes to complexity of music. Hi. |
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Hi ya lee! I do agree. It is harder to create because sometimes there are less things to analyze. Makes it difficult to create something simple that people accept and readily appreciate |
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the problems may come from the fact that musicians that make complex music can't always do what they want with it : i mean they loose control cause it becomes sometimes even too complex for them ; also complex structures are often use to hide a lack of melodies... i also really enjoy minimalist every now and then |
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jesus I don't know.. I think a really good melody is one of the hardest things to create. not a melody. anyone can poop out a melody, but a truly great melody is hard as fuck. is that the direction you're heading in? |
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The only direction I am heading in is bed :) I don't make music. |
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yay for opinionated generalizations! :D |
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people worship the skill involved with art. i'm not sure why. maybe it's the easiest thing for them to understand - musicianship, technical skill. perhaps it's easier for the non-artist to understand years of honing one's craft rather than the unexplainable moment of inspiration that often trancends everything an artist knows. but i assert, as always, that technique and complexity are NOT required in great art. |
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It's not an opinionated generalisation. Your face doesn't fit here, go and melt cheese on it. |
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i think you mean generalised opinions |
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I agree with qrter about melodies, that's one of the biggest challenges. It's hard to measure, obviously, there are different degrees of simplicity and complexity. To compare would be just too general. I dunno about other people, but as soon as I started making music, I started thinking like a musicologist, technical aspects became important. It was nothing to do with it being the easiest thing to appreciate. Combo, if you were implying that minimalist music is easy to make, you're wrong. |
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When I started making music I began thinking about making cheese on toast, with pre melted cheese...and then I thought "I know, let's chop an 808 State sample the fuck up and use it" and so the track "Needlefix was born"....everything from that point got worse and I ceased making music 6 weeks ago after suffering a mental breakdown caused by excessive musicology. |
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is still on my zebox page which hasn't been touched in about 2 years. |
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you have stop-started making music more times than I can vomit. |
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No last time was the last time. I have to concentrate on other things now, like my career as a world famous modern artist |||||||I|LUV|U||||||| |
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you've done some good stuff though in that period. |
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That's kind of you say but if I am being honest 98.2343% was shit and when I started making what I liked not one person liked it :P |
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you say that everytime, you old dog you! |
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Well I do luv u (not in a gay way [unless you are open for experimentation {that was a joke}]) |
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Just remember when you made it. It 'Rocked'! I''ve enjoyed loads of your music. |
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your parentheses make me blush..! |
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As ave i. Mr. Lee should continue at it. We should start a petition thread and post in it until he makes more music :) |
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I'll be honest, your production and ability to choose sounds that fit together is ace. However your melodies are shit. |
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I could've sworn I posted in this thread. |
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" Simple music is so much harder to create than complex music...FACT" i don't agree on this i think :) |
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wait, good complex music is harder to make that good simple music...fact :) |
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good music is harder to create than bad music, or not. |
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yes, sorry, good to my ear :-) |
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don't apologize, i'm just kidding around. :) |
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well, it's true..who can tell what's good and what's bad music.. i certanly can't, i just know what sounds good to me :) |
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i can by using a scientific process that has been in practice for decades. it's called rocks/rots. here's an eg: ROCKS! - the melvins - analord - black converse rots. - whitesnake (big time) - ripped analord binder and sleeve - green converse as you can see, it applies to virtually anything in life and is 100% accurate every time. |
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i'll try to memorize this in the morning. thank you mister! |
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it can be drawn into any marble notebook with any standard pen (blue, black or red) and works especially well before fourth period or during chemistry class. |
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haha :) thanks again! |
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ive dabbled a little in created some tunes, but ive never thought about it when i am doing it, ive always just...dabbled - sometimes if you put to much thought into art, it comes out to overboard or you hate the stuff all together. i know a lot of writers and the most successful ones get as much as they can out and try to write at least all of the time, without thinking to hard on the actually material. |
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what kind of music do you make? |
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you don't need much technical skill to be a successful writer though :) |
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that's true. any hack can get a great job as a rock journalist, for example. |
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i dont make music at all, ive dabbled in some electronic stuff and some rock or acoustic guitar stuff, i used to sing for a garage band when i was younger, but we just used to play that generic punk metal nirvana blah blah stuff, ive grown out of that - but my friends who were in that band with me have not, but theyve evolved as writers. |
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Brilliantly simple and simply brilliant, I present to you the |
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i like punk, metal, nirvana... was your band any good? do you have any recordings? |
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that reminds me we don't have a decent music magazine overhere. but i doubt anyone beside me and maybe 3 other people really cares about that.. |
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this is exactly the sort of music i'd expect from r2d2grey8bit! nice! :) |
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perhaps the four of you could start one? everybody and their mother has their own zine in the states (i don't, though). some of the d.i.y. indie zines are very weird and cool. i've been known to peruse them in the music stores and i bought a very obscure-but-great one regularly for a long time. |
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i agree about the melody thing. it is very hard to write a good melody, but is oh so rewarding when you do so. |
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nope, ive got the link to the band (well 2 bands) that used to be my band - we never saved anything we recorded, its all on some tape somewhere. well my band split into two different ones, one punk band which is fucking great, but there website is down, so i only have the myspace link, and the other metal - who are also great but..some of their stuff is just alright. |
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i don't agree but i wouldn't air a preference either way... if i didn't have awesome pop choons i'd shoot myself in the face... they are important... |
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heh, yes, there are zines just about everything here, but we have a real small market - a country of 2 million people and usually no more that 30 people come to alternative music gigs so i doubt this would work out..maybe if i had a good job with lots of free time and nothing better to do..i used to buy quite a number of various magazines but if i wanted to get something about alternative music i had to get a british or american one. people like lenny kravitz and r.e.m. here. |
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so far i've listened to this first bugs and rats song and i'm excited because this is an underground band that totally fucking rocks and that's extremely uncommon. but surely their comments about selling out are more of a joke? their apparent divide+conquer attitude is kind of a deterrent to me. |
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no ! i think minimalist music is very hard to make, harder than a lot of complex music ! |
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sometimes it's the opposite, tho |
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