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Are the British National Party still known today as a community of fascists? Or is this nostalgia? Was it a rumor? When and what was the last BNP public demonstration if there ever was one? Does the Anti-Fascist Faction of Ireland still exist? When was the last instance of them taking public action? Is neo-nazi and neo-nazi'ism seen pretty often in the UK? Does the faction "Combat 18" still exist? |
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i think they still have fascist party in italy. |
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BNP are still very much around but trying to shed their truthful image of a bunch of fascist racists for that of ... i don't have a clue.. people who are "hard on immigration" (ie drive them out, beating them with batons and whatever else) Anti-Fascist Faction of Ireland? Never heard of them. |
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in italy you can found forza nuova (new force °_°) and msi (they a lil less less than forza nuova) fiore (founder of FN) has got a huge businness in england (kinda hostels, hotels for immigrates...i'm not joking) |
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sadly, this is true for all of europe's countries... :( here in belgium, in the north of the country, there was a quarter of the votes (+/- 1.000.000, 10% of the total population...) for the ultra nationalist/xenophobic far-right party, (vlaams belang, ex-vlaams block) which is led by neo-nazis trying to be respectable, at the last regional elections... and they grow thanks to all the unhappy people voting for them by lack of alternatives. |
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One of the regulars at work has a home-made combat 18 sticker in his car's back window. Cunt. |
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Don't forget the national front. Yeah the BNP even managed to get some fucking seats in the local elections here. Plughole drainage. |
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Oh and you could have just said UK as we might as well not be a part of europe. We don't act like we are that is for sure. |
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The BNP are insignificant, but generate more coverage than they warrant. |
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20pct of the danes vote Danish Folk Parti, considered by many a racist and fascist party. They have root in Danish Front, which def is some nationalistic front. |
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It is your job to stop them. |
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im doing everything i can |
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Italy is basically being run by Neo-Fascists... fortunately, dude seems more into money than values or anything... but i'm expecting him to get his ass-kicked out of parliament rather swiftly, come next election.... the world is choosing, which side is your country on... oh, yes: Congrats Portugal! :) |
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he won't be able to run for parliament from jail anyway.. "the world is choosing, which side is your country on" not sure what you mean there, sorry. |
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it seems like this go around, people are being pushed out of the center, and are actually making ideological choices (whether the governments the people elect reflect these choices or not remains to be seen, but that's another matter entirely)... do we support the present "war on terror" and all the right-wing baggage and values, which such a war attaches itself to? USA: Yes, Canada: No, Spain: No, Portugal: No, Russia: Putin!!! (?!?!?!...?)... has the British election happened yet? in any case the answer looks like Yes, doesn't it?... oh well, hang in there friends... |
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The gov will stay in power at the election, but that's not because people support the war on terror, IMO, more that the alternatives are worse... :) Cygnus: I think the BNP et al are still very much seen as rascists, there was a very high-profile expose of the party a few months back which led to several people (including the cunt of a leader Nick Griffin) being arrested :) Brits are cynical as fuck anyway, so any extremists who claim their parties are now 'respectable & legitimate' are not taken too seriously. Although I live in a white middle-class area so what the fuck do I know about what England thinks. |
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yeah, i got the impression that Britain was suffering from a lack of a clear alternative... shame about that... i'm patiently waiting for someone to post that i am talking total smack... at which point i will say, "you know what? you're probably right. i know shit from shine-o-lah." |
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The US actually has a surprisingly low amount of fascists. We had a fascist party a few elections ago that didn't even get 1% (I believe). Oops, this isn't about us.. |
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well, maybe not by party name... but one can certainly make a case for a fact that many people with fascistic tendencies fit in quite nicely with the present republican party... certainly not all, but some... |
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erh... isnt the republicans fascists? |
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Man, I feel like that whenever I post in a 'serious' thread. I thought I was gonna get it in the pope thread :D |
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We would like to think republicans are fascist, and they come close, but aren't. I was thinking more like Pat Buchanan. |
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republicans are often mistaken as fascists. they aren't. they are just very conservative, right-leaning citizens. the majority of republicans ARE anglo-saxon and that often leads to a negative and incorrect assumption that they are racist. believe it or not there are liberal republicans. they are weird though. >> Brits are cynical as fuck anyway Is that 100% true? |
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the problem i have with conservative republicans is that they favor security over liberty, and are willing to give up their rights for security. i think that is bullshit and makes them undeserving of american citizenship. |
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Sometimes conservative republicans want to take away liberty just for the hell of it too, such as in gay marriage. |
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Well its the stereotype :) Compared to places like the US, definitely true, not sure compared to Europe... certainly our sense of humour is more cynical than most, I would say. |
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yup. that's 100% due to religious belief. and yes, it's wrong. they are also anti-stemcell research for 100% no reason at all. not even religious. yes one could truly argue that republicans are fascists. haha. |
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Hrm... Pat Buchanan does still have a TV show, though.... : / |
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yeah we recognize that stereotype in the US. that of british people being condescending and nervy. i don't buy into it cause i don't know any british people. |
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Although republicanism tends to be very strongly religion based whereas fascism is generally anti-religion...? |
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fascism A. A system of government marked by centralization of authority under a dictator, stringent socioeconomic controls, suppression of the opposition through terror and censorship, and typically a policy of belligerent nationalism and racism. B. A political philosophy or movement based on or advocating such a system of government. Oppressive, dictatorial control. yes, that's the republican party in a nutshell, i'd say. |
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modern day republicans are only mis-led by the promises of the administration. they are democratic at heart. |
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no, i don't think they are. i think at best they care more about business and look at the mutilated, corporatized version of democracy we have now and assume that's as good as it gets. most republicans believe that they are akin to the original republicans such as thomas jefferson, whose goal was basically to keep the government as small as possible. the neo-republicans of today have used this guise of "tiny government" to actually expand the government's powers to the bloated dictatorial system we now have, where the right-wing completely runs the show by themselves with unlimited power. so either they are so completely dumb that they really don't understand the obvious differences between the neo-republicans and the original ones (which i don't think is the case) or they care so much about money and/or their moralistic ivory towers that they look past the facts and intentionally continue with their selfish goals. ps - the democrats are total shit as well, but they have virtually no power anyway. |
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Republicans are NOT fascists. I agree with cygnus. THey have good intentions, but are dumb. The US is not under dictatorial control either. Sure, the government does things the people don't want, but if they go too far, the people have the ability to intervene. |
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i was referring to those in political positions - they know what they are doing. the masses who voted for bush are dumb. the government now tells people what they want, and even if the democrats step in, bush's attitude is tough shit. and he has the power to back it up. |
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I wouldn't say that Bush knows what he is doing... :/ But yes, most up there do. |
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i'm absolutely sure that cheney knows what he's doing. and i'm 90% sure bush understands all of it. they are successfully carrying out every aspect of the republicans' wet dream. it just keeps getting sweeter and sweeter for them. there's no doubt that they are doing all of the things they do completely deliberately. |
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