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Zombiekev
from Ardmore (United States) on 2002-02-09 05:07 [#00083805]
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this movie kicks ass
so does the soundtrack
and why does the guy turn into another person? metamorphisis? ???
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Frag
from New Jersey (United States) on 2002-02-09 05:49 [#00083814]
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Don't reveal anything. I haven't seen it all yet.
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Ubik
from United States on 2002-02-09 05:56 [#00083816]
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just try and reveal it... it still won't make any sense
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LeCoeur
from the outer edge of the universe (United States) on 2002-02-09 06:02 [#00083819]
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hehehe it reminded me of a european movie.....they tend to not make too much sense.....plus LYNCH....that dude is OUT there.....yup i be liking the lynch man (=
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Taoist Blockade
from Wales on 2002-02-09 06:07 [#00083822]
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I actually didnt like lost highway much. Mulholland drive was awesome though. Nothing will ever top Eraserhead though :)
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Zombiekev
from Ardmore (United States) on 2002-02-09 06:08 [#00083823]
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i could tell you a whole quick synopsis and you wouldn't understand it...
even with clues from friends i have trouble even starting at talking about this movie...
my guess is that it is a long dream/ coma
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Zombiekev
from Ardmore (United States) on 2002-02-09 06:10 [#00083824]
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i wanted to see Mulholland Drive, what's it like?
Eraserhead rocks, so dark it is.
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LeCoeur
from the outer edge of the universe (United States) on 2002-02-09 06:12 [#00083825]
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i have YET to see mulholland drive.....*kicks self*
eraserhead is sooooooo good....*prays one day it'll be on DVD*
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Taoist Blockade
from Wales on 2002-02-09 06:15 [#00083826]
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mulholland drive is actually like lost highway in many respects, I found it much more entertaining though. Its really fucked too, which is always nice in a movie :)
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Zombiekev
from Ardmore (United States) on 2002-02-09 06:24 [#00083830]
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a dvd would be great, i don't even care f it has extra stuff either
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Zombiekev
from Ardmore (United States) on 2002-02-09 06:25 [#00083831]
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sounds like my cup of tea
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LeCoeur
from the outer edge of the universe (United States) on 2002-02-09 06:32 [#00083835]
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heheh......i definately have to check it!
i tried to get erasehead on VHS....but alas found it was outta print.....thats just wrong
starts a letter writing campaign =]
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Zombiekev
from Ardmore (United States) on 2002-02-09 06:34 [#00083837]
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you can get bootleg copies on ebay very easily
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REFLEX
from Edmonton, Alberta (Canada) on 2002-02-09 08:16 [#00083877]
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Explination; heres what happens, its really just the 1 guy.. well both of them, its not supposed to be a converntional film. Its about these people that are intertwined somehow, and its how they all meet on the "Lost Highway" so to speak. Its not supposed to make perfect sense said Lynch.
Its like thoe space or horror movies with crazy monster and such, it could never happen, but its good to watch .. if you like that sort of thing.
This movie is one of those that would never happen ofcourse its just.. one big mystery.
Think of it like this.. the one line by Bill Pullman that makes you think it out to the final scene... to get it.. he says he doent like video cameras because he likes to remember things how they really happened..... get it... think about it hard.
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marlowe
from Antarctica on 2002-02-09 10:57 [#00083895]
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has anyone else noticed the 23 enigma making an appearance in the film? just like a BIG 23 enigma popping up in taxi driver
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Peter File
from the future!!! Ooooh chase me! on 2002-02-09 11:45 [#00083920]
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Ext. beach house A rotund man, dressed in the fashion of a Chandler detective, staggers out of the beach house as if he has been shot. As he approaches the camera, it becomes apparent that he is WALKING UPSIDE DOWN. He is followed by a SULTRY FEMME FATALE who is CARRYING A SLINGSHOT.
Man: Oh God, no!
The man falls over. He is now THE RIGHT WAY UP.
Femme fatale: I knew you'd come round eventually.
Close-up on the femme fatale
Femme fatale: They always do...
Cut back to the man. He has turned into DAVID HASSELHOFF.
Man: This DOESN'T MAKE ANY SENSE! Femme fatale: It's not supposed to! (Starts SPEAKING BACKWARDS) !noisnemid rehtona ni m'I
V/O: PLAYSTATION 2! THE THIRD PLACE!
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flea
from depths of your mind (New Zealand) on 2002-02-09 13:51 [#00083956]
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it's lovely in it's elusiveness...trying to give it meaning almost spoils it..but i think it mostly has to do with guilt...have you done something so bad that it makes you wish you were dead? or another person in another lifetime?..well that's the gist of it.....
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Resident Evil
from heat some coffee, mmm, mmm (Australia) on 2002-02-09 14:04 [#00083958]
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"eraserhead is sooooooo good....*prays one day it'll be on DVD*"
WTF!!! Eraserhead isn't on DVD is the states!?! Thats insanity!
It's out in Australia on DVD. The extras aint that special (Trailer, David Lynch Bio and Filmography) but who cares when it's DVD :-)
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Jarworski
from The Grove (United Kingdom) on 2002-02-09 14:24 [#00083963]
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The deal with Lost Highway, it's kinda like Fight Club.
Fuuuuggue
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GIR
from Easton on 2002-02-09 17:50 [#00084001]
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fight club had a fucked up ending..i didnt really like it....
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LeCoeur
from the outer edge of the universe (United States) on 2002-02-09 19:39 [#00084028]
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NO WAY..........grrrrrr
it's on DVD in Oz........waaaaaah i coulda picked it up whilst in Sydney.....i guess i'll have to check both E bay and some oversea's shoppes to see where i can get it.....i really want it. even on VHS.
thanks for the tip (=
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D-Hex
from Blue Springs Missouri (United States) on 2002-02-09 20:38 [#00084075]
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Im not good at figuring out movies. I still dont even know what happens in The Shining...
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corngrower
from the fertile grounds of Iowa, w (United States) on 2002-02-09 21:35 [#00084095]
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I really love the jazzy track on the soundtrack, think its track 4
I havn't listened to it in awile, forgot how good this soundtrack is!
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Zombiekev
from Ardmore (United States) on 2002-02-09 22:14 [#00084112]
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my friends and i discussed the film and we really think that it is a dream,
a dream where the guy gets into a shitload of trouble and goes to sleep wishing he was someone else, he wakes up and his wish came true.
its gotta be a dream
have you ever dreamed about something that you had talked to someone about,
for instance, maybe the character was talking to a friend about wishing you were another person.
its just a theory though
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Zombiekev
from Ardmore (United States) on 2002-02-09 22:16 [#00084113]
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its region 2 though
american dvd players only play region 0 and 1
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titsworth
from Washington, DC (United States) on 2002-08-26 07:46 [#00365271]
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anyone have any comments on richard pryor's performance as arnie in this movie? it was his last movie role.
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AE_King
from Australia on 2002-08-26 08:19 [#00365326]
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Lost Highway is great, although not as good as Mullholland Drive methinks...
Anyone seen Blue Velvet? I really wanna see this one dag nabbit. Twin Peaks is also very good (only seen the movie, not the series) and has a stellar soundtrack (like most of Lynchs movies :P).
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Jarworski
from The Grove (United Kingdom) on 2002-08-26 11:48 [#00365631]
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Richard Pryor is great in this movie, yes.
Blue Velvet is a classic, one of Lynch's top 2 movies I think.
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axion
from planet rock (Sweden) on 2002-08-26 13:40 [#00365676]
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the movie is funny
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axion
from planet rock (Sweden) on 2002-08-26 13:43 [#00365677]
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the lost highway is funny
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Dael
from the low end (Australia) on 2002-08-26 14:48 [#00365700]
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richard pryor is an absolute legend, I've grown up watching many of his earlier films like "stircrazy" and gotta say that he was very good at what he did, (and that's being a funny mofo,) it was great to see him in LostHighway, (something I never expected)
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corticalstim
from Canada on 2003-10-12 22:01 [#00900200]
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I watched this twice today (and several scenes multiple times) - and
have come up with a few theories.
Now - in order to understand my theories you cannot try and relate it
to the film in the order of events displayed - as I'm going to try and
show what my understanding of the actual order of events is.
There is only one man. Fred. He is in an unhappy marriage and is with
a wife with a mysterious past. He begins to suspect she is having an
affair, and follows her to the "Lost Highway Hotel" where he rents the
room 26, across from room 25 where she enters. When she leaves he goes
across the hall and kidnaps Dick Laurent and takes him to the desert
and executes him.
A day (or two) later he goes to a party with his wife, and talks to
one of Rene's friends (Andy i believe) and asks him about a certain
person (ignore the Mystery Man at this point - i will explain later).
Andy states he is possibly a friend of Dick Laurent's. Fred says "
Isn't Dick dead?" which is a terrible mistake, because Andy knows that
Fred doesnt know Laurent. Andy is now suspicious of Fred, so Fred then
kills him (sometime after the party). This leaves Fred with his
suspicious, mysterious wife, who he then brutally murders. Shortly
afterwards (the next morning possibly) Fred notices the police pulling
up the road, he runs to his car and a chase begins down the "lost
highway." Eventually Fred is caught and is sentenced to death in the
electric chair.
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corticalstim
from Canada on 2003-10-12 22:02 [#00900201]
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aargh! stupid copying from notepad :-/
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corticalstim
from Canada on 2003-10-12 22:02 [#00900202]
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I watched this twice today (and several scenes multiple times) - and have come up with a few theories.
Now - in order to understand my theories you cannot try and relate it to the film in the order of events displayed - as I'm going to try and show what my understanding of the actual order of events is.
There is only one man. Fred. He is in an unhappy marriage and is with a wife with a mysterious past. He begins to suspect she is having an affair, and follows her to the "Lost Highway Hotel" where he rents the room 26, across from room 25 where she enters. When she leaves he goes across the hall and kidnaps Dick Laurent and takes him to the desert and executes him.
A day (or two) later he goes to a party with his wife, and talks to one of Rene's friends (Andy i believe) and asks him about a certain person (ignore the Mystery Man at this point - i will explain later). Andy states he is possibly a friend of Dick Laurent's. Fred says "Isn't Dick dead?" which is a terrible mistake, because Andy knows that Fred doesnt know Laurent. Andy is now suspicious of Fred, so Fred then kills him (sometime after the party). This leaves Fred with his suspicious, mysterious wife, who he then brutally murders. Shortly afterwards (the next morning possibly) Fred notices the police pulling up the road, he runs to his car and a chase begins down the "lost highway." Eventually Fred is caught and is sentenced to death in the electric chair.
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corticalstim
from Canada on 2003-10-12 22:03 [#00900203]
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As he is imprisoned he begins to go slowly insane from the guilt of his crimes. He develops an alternate personality (which is almost the exact opposite of his actual one) in his mind to try and mask his guilt, "remembering in his own way" his life before he commited the crimes. Slowly the reality of events starts to seep into his fantasy world (Rene as Alice, similar dialogue sequences, and Mr. Eddy/Laurent).
He then dies in the electric chair (essentially, this is shown in the final car chase scene -which actually takes place half-way through the actual events- where we see his face contorting and bright flashing lights).
Now, as for symbols. The Mystery Man is a mental guide figure that exists in Fred's brain, he doesnt physically exist, as we never actually see him converse with another person other then Fred, or be refferred to by anyone other then Fred (this is even valid in the party scene where Fred asks Andy about the man in the black jacket, as there is another man beside The Mystery Man wearing a black jacket who Andy could see). The Mystery Man leads Fred to commit his murders. The video tapes are also ficticious items created by Fred's mind. They are pieces of the actual events escaping from his surpressed memory, which seep through to haunt him. The cabin represents his mind or subconcious, and possibly his brain as a whole. It is where The Mystery Man resides, and it ignites in flame when Fred is killed in the electric chair.
So. Those are my theories. There are a few missing pieces which i havent accounted for, but the points i have made are my main ones. If anyone wants to chat about it, I'd be happy to dive deeper into some more specific details of the movie. :)
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corticalstim
from Canada on 2003-10-12 22:18 [#00900209]
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hmmm... i guess i should maybe talk about the "Dick Laurent is dead." factor. we must first acknowledge that the first time this happens it is The Mystery Man's voice on the intercom, whereas the second time we see Fred talking over it. I think this scene could mean several things: 1. Fred's concience is trying to talk to him through his denial. 2. Fred's evil guide figure (Mystery Man) is informing him that his first task is completed (killing Laurent). 3. Lynch wants to add another degree to the story to make the viewer try and realize that the story isnt displayed in a linear fashion by making it appear as a loop.
I believe that the 2nd two theories in combination make the most sense. :D
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mappatazee
from ¨y¨z¨| (Burkina Faso) on 2003-10-12 22:23 [#00900211]
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Excellent excellent.
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DeLtoiD
from Ontario on 2003-10-12 22:25 [#00900212]
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we're actually watching Blue Velvet in my film studies class right now...
as for Lost highway i've watched it about 3 times and i still think Balthazar ghetty is the man
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mappatazee
from ¨y¨z¨| (Burkina Faso) on 2003-10-12 22:27 [#00900215]
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I just watched the scene where the mystery man is talking to the people on the stairs, one lady is obviously looking at him, I suppose it doesn't mean much if it is portrayed 'how Fred remembers it'.
The other man, while wearing dark purple/maroon, is pretty much wearing black I guess.
I wonder if he maybe appears later, like in the forced strip scene at Laurantes?
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corticalstim
from Canada on 2003-10-12 22:36 [#00900218]
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im pretty sure he does, as does the girl in the red dress which is by MM and the other guy at stairs.
the fact that its how Fred remembers it def. matters in this scene :P
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mappatazee
from ¨y¨z¨| (Burkina Faso) on 2003-10-12 22:36 [#00900219]
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Jack nance (eraserhead guy) is credited as being 'phil', i've only seen the movie twice, who was phil? i don't rememba
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corticalstim
from Canada on 2003-10-12 22:37 [#00900220]
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im ashamed to say i still havent viewed Mulholland Drive or Blue Velvet.
but i will view both in a short while - as i am doing a project on Lynch for my media class.
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mappatazee
from ¨y¨z¨| (Burkina Faso) on 2003-10-12 22:37 [#00900221]
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On second thought, I don't know if Lynch would do something like that. He purposely makes it so that the 'mystery' can't be certainly solved; I think that would give it too much certainty.
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mappatazee
from ¨y¨z¨| (Burkina Faso) on 2003-10-12 22:39 [#00900223]
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I think the mood of Blue Velvet is more in line with Lost Highway, but the abstract plot of Lost Highway is more like Mulholland Drive. Enjoy
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corticalstim
from Canada on 2003-10-13 10:13 [#00900666]
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mmm... im waching it again :D
this time i have people with me :D
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