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the Autechre - Untilted hoax by Robert Martin of www.recordlabelrecords.org After making the unintentionally sensational hoax video of an American hostage being beheaded in Iraq, and subsenquently having the video getting picked up by mainstream media news as a real "terrorist beheading," I realized the full potential of internet forgeries, especially when utilizing peer-to-peer file sharing networks. Like others, when I first heard the Untilted bfhmp3 version I questioned its authenticity. I used this mass confusion as an opportunity to create even more confusion, hence the "2nd version" of Untilted. This "2nd version" is actually a mishmash of some of my songs, combined with two tracks of the original leakedversion. Most of them are from an album that can be found here - http://www.recordlabelrecords.org/lotf.html. (mp3 clips up on site) My artist name is Fluorescent Grey. I finished the aforementioned album (lying on the floor...) long before Autechre's "Draft 7.30" was released. Many apologies if I offended anyone in the process of conducting this internet experiment. I am not intending to interfere with Autechre's album sales, in fact I am huge fan. I am humbled by so muchoftheir work, and was not attempting to portray my own work as better or equal. If you have a "notable" status like that of Autechre or another famous electronic musician, people tend to be much more open to liking the particular music you release, regardless of its quality. thanks Robbie e-mail me - videohoax@hotmail.com |
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Haha, you write RLR? That stuff is great I see in Grooves mag. Didn't know you posted here :) |
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to see other hoaxes i've done please go to http://videohoax.ctyme.com/ (beheading hoax) http://www.recordlabelrecords.org (my label) thanks! Robbie |
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hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm |
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What you might want do while you're here is reveal the track length of your "version". You can end 40 or so thread discussions that already exist and haven't started yet by doing that :) |
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hey your stuff isn't too shabby. one song gave me goosebumps. |
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although they are sorta sound the same... ah well.. kabuki drum & bass is good nonetheless. |
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it's times like this where i hate the internet that being said, i never downloaded any of the 'leaks' |
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you fucking jerkoff lying asshole, I never want to be associated with you. What a rediculous, sad little prank you made. You deserve to burn in hell like the rotting liar you are. oh wait, shit, I am on your label. oh wait, shit, I helped work on some tracks on LOTF (none of the leaks though). Oh wait, shit, you taught me how to make music. Well fuck me, maybe you aren't such a bad guy. 666 is your magic number baby, keep hoax the most your nuts can take |
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it wasnt him, it was me, teamtechno, and the rest of the |
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right, thats why I remember robbie making these tracks 2 years ago in his room ;-) nice try gl0tch, but the RLR label has been advertised with links to many of the same tracks in the hoax for a few months... check thewire, Grooves, XLR8R... I am sure there are people who have already heard it robbie's music is really good, its cute that you are advertising that its yours, a hoax attempt within a hoax ;-) |
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bah, but noone still has a clue about the first version |
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thanks jack, I aspire to be cute some times |
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this made me smile.thanks |
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did you confirm it was your doing after people were suspicious? "Other people believe that leak 2 is an album by an artist fluorescent grey and not autechre. Song sample mp3 clips availible HERE (http://www.recordlabelrecords.org/lotf.html) lay some validity to this claim. Compare the "Crackly Shell" on this webpage to "Augmatic disport" on leak 2." |
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Dateline XLT.... Internet users dumbfounded by multiple hoaxes on techno album! Tonight at 9! |
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Ok ready? Go! You have roughly one week for people to go apetit over this. Around that time analord 3&4 will arise and this entire thing will be on that back burner! ... and a fun time was had by all! |
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i'm telling you: i've held analord 3 and 4 in my hand... several days ago... why are people not already going apetit over it? |
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It appears that north america got it sooner. Alot of the orders of the people that post here are over seas. I have yet to hear it. Either i will be all apetit or i will be 'real small'. Analord 1 and 2 didnt stroke me the right way. The samples for 3 and 4 did seem promising though. |
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i can't wait for the flogging these tits will receive. |
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Yeah thats a given. I think that on one hand, its a bit clever. You get your tunes heard. On the other hand a majority of people that heard it werent impressed (except cx at first :D) I only listened to 3 songs and had to quit. It is lacking overall in many areas. It doesnt have much lasting power nor does it have any qualities of anything that i typically like in music. Thats good though because i have a rough idea as to who to avoid musically. I have heard grey's name before (from surfing around i think). After i heard this subpar attempt i know that it is not up my alley. Cool for me! Personally i'd rather have my music speak for myself as opposed to some bullshit hype from a hoax. Counterproductive? I dont know. Too tired... the bar bored me today! |
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okay... that makes sense... i was worried i had gotten caught in some sort of Kafka-Groundhog day debacle... |
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Oh, now everyone's going to pretend the music was shit! I will admit I was fooled witht he second leak on the website. A lot of it was very good quality. Hell, if Autechre actually released music like that, everyone would try and "see" something in it and force themselves to like it. Just look at that beat-driven noisy shithole Granz Graf. |
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*with the |
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wtf, you added another post to correct that? its not like anyone wont understand it or will think you are dumb because of it or anything. are you new here? i know...youve got lots of points |
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I was trying to hint that it'd be really nice if there was an edit feature for the millionth time! ;) Or I'm just drunk. One or the other. |
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i waas just kidding.it was just funny |
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heheh ok. Sorry I'm not quite normalized in the soberness department yet. It would helarious if the FIRST leak was actually real (the one everyone thought was too shit to be Autechre)...I mean, everyone thought this second leak was more likely to actually be them (and it turned out fake) so where did the first one come from? It would be funny if it was actually a leak of Untilted-actually come to think of it, that wouldn't be funny it'd be bloody depressing. |
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that would suck balls |
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i don't care much. it would be good to listen to these leaks in full, but if this won't happen, i won't be upset. |
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i don't wanna download these leaks...when the new AE will be out tell me if is the same lol ok? :* |
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i cant believ he got away with a beheading hoax.. thats close to the bone. but seriously. perception fascinates me it really does. i still wonder what the first leak is then? this doesnt really solve anything apart from that the second leak is fake. he didnt say anything about making the first - just changing it. damn. |
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or did i miss something... the first's a hoax isnt it. |
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well its definitely NOT new material |
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Ha ha, I read everything on that website and you seem like an interesting person (given that you havn't been copy/pasting the words of someone else and posting their website, not yours). Have you heard of the protoscience of memetics? It's an evolutionary model of information transfer among brains, and loosly based on the analogy of genetic replication of genes. I've been interested in attempting experiments like this, but I would probably avoid anything political or anything that could get me in trouble or potentially really hurt someone emotionally. I'd never do anything like a fake execution during "war".. I mean it could potentially really cause/ provoke some violence/harm. But still I admire you for fucking with the system. There is a possibility that you are masking the purpose of doing it as a healthy exposure of a flaw in the media (even subconsciously to yourself) when really it's just entertaining, heh heh. But yeah, I've definately thought a little about exploiting successful memes, the only real purpose I can think of is to make money... I mean, for example, name every one of your tracks after a really famous singer.. michael jackson, limp bizkit or however you spell that etc and they're bound to be more successful at replicating. I've "studied" ebay a little bit too.. it's really quite an interesting writhing system of deceit and evolving strategies/memes/selling tatics. Conning is cool. Nature has an angler fish dangle a fake worm to attract fish then eats them. I think I've been writing about vaguely similar topics but fuck it. |
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well said w M w- do you have any examples of this research, experiments, or writings online? email me offboard if you dont want to share publicly. these are some serious things you mentioned. best, /g |
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hoaxes are so 2004. |
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The concept of the meme was formed and coined in the book 'the selfish gene' by richard dawkins, one of my favorite books by an extremely intelligent author. But that book is mostly about genes and only suggests the possible existence of memes as a 1 or 2 page afterthought. Online, there is the which I havn't read all of but has entries that range in quality and applicapability/backing up of the main theory. "the meme machine" is a good book by susan blackmore. Richard theorized that the three main characteristics that would increase the chances of something being replicated are fecundity (reproducing abundantly), longevity and fidelity (copying exactness). (Your?) beheading "meme" was very fecund for example due to the mass replication of file sharing networks/media. By the way, for a smallish duration, I searched google's "news" option pretty much daily on a specific thing looking for the latest stuff. And the media units really do replicate eachother pretty much exactly... Usually I found the exact same headline and word for word writing in lots of different news sites. I'm not sure how it works but I assume that plagiarism is pretty damn weakly enforced.. it's difficult to enforce due to some tactic bla bla, ie not at all when it comes to news. So maybe US news just copied it this way and it caught on memetically. |
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A widely recognized con is the . But there's pretty much always countertactics and mutations... sort of like a mutating virus counter-counter evolving/ adapting to counter strategies/immunities of its host. There's probably some way to do a borderline legal new type of pyramid scheme right now. Email is full of spam, ie the most successfully replicating emails, many of which are cons. People make fake emails as if from ebay asking for the passwords of people signed up etc. I'm interested in arms races and competing strategies too. One email said something like "microsoft is testing it's email software and will pay you 1 dollar for each person you copy and send this email too" or something like that.. ie, each copy has explicit instructions to re-copy (and a reward). Religion often behaves this memetic way, saying it will reward and not punish people who help replicate it. But some guy did an experiment, if I remember, where he changed the microsoft to bill gates or something, ie. mutated the meme and sent it off replicating again. I forget what happened. Chain letters.. blab baloiajw |
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I really like this ideas. I often think about the existence of digital forms of information outside of our ability to interpret them, multiplying and not really having any meaning but still carving out a very significant portion of a real physical and virtual domain. There is only so much digital capacity, and some bit sequences which can decode meaningful information control a lot more of the space. But then we could just say fill up the space with random bits, and then search it for certain patterns and decode meaningful information from the static omg my head is going to explode okay forget all that |
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helemaal spacen man |
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wolfram suggested the possibility that the universe is composed of units that "update" only one at a time. But since we are part of this system it appears that it is taking place all at once. |
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yeah. the new, future society will not appreciate people hoaxin one another. |
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But seriously, if I could think up a hoax/deceitful tactic to make me a bunch of money where I knew I wouldn't likely get caught, ethics wouldn't hold me back much at all. Especially if I could target some specific group that doesn't deserve their money. This is unfortunatly based on watching the semi ok movie "gangs of new york", but one female in that (decades ago) simply dressed as a house made and walked into rich peoples houses to steal stuff unnoticed, but I assume it's loosly at least based on a real historical tactic. I bet people in third world countries are particularly exploitable but that would be fucking evil. I think some characters in huckleberry fin were consters, heh heh. |
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sounds like something i could get well into, but i dont like conning people. the dawkins book sounds goo, think ive heard about it before. it interests me cos recently i was thinking how humans are naturally selfish. like the very notion of childbirth is selfish; i mean if you could chose and not your parents, would you be born? |
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i think those parts of gangs of ny are based pretty tightly on the book (written early last century) which i highly recommend as opposed to the film. although the set and costume is spectacular. |
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i have a simple plan. i go to my local record store every other day, and if theres anything in there i like i will buy it. when the new ae comes out it will be in the shop and i will buy it and listen to it for the first time, thereby avoiding all the real/fake confusion you all have. what if you heard the real and the fake, realised you like the fake better, then *bought* the real in the shop and were shocked to discover the one you hated was real and the one you loved was fake? |
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Yeah Bob Mcbob, that's what I was (trying) to suggest. The name behind music sometimes really changes things. For example, when I thought the first fake could be Ae, I tried "seeing" into it and attempting to enjoy (as I did with the anal Granz Graf)...then the second one came along and I immediately discarded the first. Now I found out the second one (the one I liked best) is fake, and the first is still a mystery! |
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excellent release! I really like it :) |
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Archival, do you like every release? to me it seems that way. Tell me something that you dislike? |
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