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how many artists are mixing this way currently? is it rare? |
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trent reznor has a hard-on for it. and BT scored the "Monster" movie in 5.1 from the ground up. |
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5.1 surround sound utizling all the channels at once imo is not very good sounding and is designed for motion picture sound. when watching a movie it usally sounds great cause the center speaker is for dialogue in a movie. Most of the 5.1 music i've heard sounds bad because they barely utilize the 3d surround sound stage by focusing everyone on the center front channel. For instance the vocals will usually always be there and stay in the front center. I prefer Quad sound myself. Its an even balance and setup for perfect 3d sound. No pesky 5th channel to offset the 3d environemtn. Quad field recording with 4 mics is very fun to do and to listen back to on 4 speakers |
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of course i really mean 4.1 , not 5.1 or quad . cause my setup includes a subwoofer as well |
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Amon Tobin talks about it . |
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Get Beck' Sea Change, or The Flaming Lips' Yoshimi, Thomas. Or the DSOTM SACD |
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There are some "wma9" demo files on microsoft's websites that showcase the 5.1 sound. They sound bloody amazing. |
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Plaid DVD quad shmad |
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acid pro can mix 5.1 surround... |
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You've mentioned that once ago...have You done a track in Acid with 5.1 ? can You spam it ? i'd like to hear an example... |
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well, the thing is that you'd need a soundcard with 5.1 out to hear what it sounds like, so I've never done a track with it, but we once tried it on my friends computer and it worked great! I could try to just do some tests without actually hearing what I'm mixing exactly and encode and upload, but which codec supports 5.1, and how do I encode to them? I'll start on something right now. |
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So does cubase. |
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ok. should work, but I have no way of checking as I don't have a dvd-burner nor digital out/surround on my computer... it said wma should be able to handle 5.1... |
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"but which codec supports 5.1, and how do I encode to them? " dunno - but if You do such a test let me know, i'll check it on my 5.1 system |
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Bjork seems to like 5.1 |
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oh, great :) i just press F5 not often enough , heh. D/L.... |
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well, it seems to be working. i can hear instruments from each channel - but could YOu say which channel is which instrument ? |
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well.. the main melody should be in the back, that sinewave should just swirl all round, the triangle-ish sound should be... in the midde on the right I think and so should the snaredrum while the hihat should be in the middle on the left... the bassdrum should be dead center. I've got to run now, but the best way to figure out if it's working is to just listen to the sine that should be flying all over throughout the song... post back how it is... |
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doesn't work. I've got a THX 5.1 System with an Audigy2 card. The audio codec mentions stereo 44kHz 160kbps |
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i gotta run to work, too - but will check it in the evening and respond, thanx |
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a friend and I remixed one of our collaborated tracks into a full 5.1 mix this summer, using Nuendo 2. the sounds splatter all over the place. we did use a pretty good studio, though. if you have the chance, it is great fun. |
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my housemate brought up a 4.1 speaker system, but we have no hardware that plays 4.1 - what a prune. |
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ok. I'll try again with the ac3-codec, but I don't know what can play that back... |
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first time i played Your wma test track yesterday it was with winamp, but without the 5.1 plug-in installed, silly me :) then i tried with faggin WinMedia Player 9 [ i use it for 5.1 dvd films ] - but still nothing....the central speaker says nothing |
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hmm... yeah, I checked the codec, and it just says "stereo." I've been trying to find some way of exporting to 5.1, but the ac3 (dolby digital) export thingie needs some serial number to work, and I don't have that... none of the crack-ish thingies worked either... |
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it's still somewhat grey area for us then .... :) after my previous post i checked configs - restored audiocard settings, uninstalled codecs etc. i seriously consider creating a partition only for working with sound/music . cause all that codec, avi/xvid/dvd stuff just fucks up good settings and the media softs steal file associations, configs bla bla. windows crap |
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after I finish the rest of todays "reading quota," I'll try the other version where I have to export each channel as a separate track, then put them into a second program to make the surround file... |
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great idea. let me know |
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5.1 for music (especially electronic) is a dubious endevour at best- adding a further layer of processing in order to achieve a more intricate soudstage for something entirely artificial (in the case of electronic) if a waste of time. How do you evoke a psycho-acoustical effect for something that does not exist? Its also unnecessary for 'performed' music as 2 speakers/channels are plenty to reproduce the 'audience's' listening experience. The psycho-acoustic effect works for moovies because the enviroment is suggested by the images on the screen- the rear channels placing the listener 'within' the action. |
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Tipper made a version of his album 'Surrounded' in 5.1. I have the regular cd and its pretty cool, so the 5.1 probably sounds great |
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What You say is theory, i think we're talking bout music here = feeling music, rather. Creating a sound space which helps YOu enjoy sounds a bit more sometimes. if it's "waste of time" for You - fine. but if You happen to know e.g Orbital - listen to "the altogether" in audio version and then check the dvd version. it just sounds nice, feels fine etc. great experience. "How do you evoke a psycho-acoustical effect for something that does not exist?" - not applicable. |
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I can only speak for the mix I have done and I can assure you - it's very different from a stereo mix (if done right). |
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can i listen to it ? link ? |
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I'm thinking more about producing effects that are fun to listen to.. like a sound that swirls all around the room before zooming through the listener, disappearing into obscurity in the background and then re-emerging at full vigor... although all that'll have wait until I can hear what I'm mixing in real 5.1... have to get a new comp with optical out... |
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flaming lips' yoshimi battles the pink robots is fucking mindblowing in 5.1 surround. |
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