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manicminer
from Paris (France) on 2005-02-07 02:58 [#01489893]
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I'm thinking of doing a laptop DJ set using only Ableton live....
Take tracks by myself and by other artists (signed or otherwise), chop them up into a few main loops and then fanny around with them in a live setting with effects and stuff.
I started playing around with a few tracks over the weekend, and I think it would work really well.
Has anyone ever done anything similar?
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2005-02-07 03:35 [#01489908]
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I've used live as a sampler when DJing (decks/cds). Pre-record loops for use in it, then synched records playing to it. Worked well.
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manicminer
from Paris (France) on 2005-02-07 04:33 [#01489932]
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Cool. I'd never actually used it until this weekend until I started playing around with it. It seems absolutely fantastic. Like a much more powerful version of a phrase sampler. I've owned a Roland SP808 and a Yamaha SU700, and this is far easier to use, more versatile and powerful.
What I'm thinking of doing is a straight set based entirely on Ableton. As I said, I'll cut loops up and just mess around with them..... I think it should work..... what worries me is that no-one else seems to be doing this, so is the software limited in terms of how many samples it can use or something like that?
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iLoveIDM
from London (United Kingdom) on 2005-02-07 04:34 [#01489935]
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the techno DJ sasha uses ableton live when he djs
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isnieZot
from pooptown (Belgium) on 2005-02-07 04:45 [#01489938]
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(dj) Surgeon does the same thing with ableton when he Dj's. take existing track from artists and mixes them with his own beats and stuff.
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2005-02-07 04:56 [#01489945]
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Although I wasn't using it constantly, as I say, only as a sampler for music loops in mixes and vocals (it was a hollywood themed party so I was using film quotes), but it was v. stable and didn't have memory problems, despite being used for almost 6 hours.
Basically, to be on the safe side, I just deleted loops from the matrix once they were used and then loaded new ones in in real time. Presumably when the memory allocated to Live fills up, it'll overwrite the samples you've "unloaded".
I can imagine you doing some good Richie Hawtin "closer to the edit" type stuff using just live. Maybe use the arranger (one that looks like acid) for mixing tracks and the other thing (forget what it's called, the default screen) for freestyling/playing your own tracks?
Make sure you roughlty BPM you tracks first- live is great, but it'll still sound arse mixing a 90bpm track with a 133bpm one...
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manicminer
from Paris (France) on 2005-02-07 05:08 [#01489950]
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I feel more and more excited the more I think about it. I want to throw loads of stuff into it - IDM, my stuff, DnB, techno, hip hop, C64 and Spectrum music...........
I'm going to work on chopping up loads of loops this week and throw them at Ableton, see what it can handle. I only have a 1ghz laptop with 256mb, so it's not cutting edge, but we'll see.......
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2005-02-07 05:25 [#01489957]
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The PC I used was similar spec. Let me know how you get on.
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stilaktive
from a place on 2005-02-07 06:38 [#01489996]
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is there any simple way of syncing live with CD decks for example?
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somejerk
from south florida, US (United States) on 2005-02-09 07:08 [#01492589]
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ableton is the funk, i've been doing something simliar myself with it.
i like to load my personal tracks up (as i know the bpms) and use the tap function to sync it up with records or cd's. pretty fun stuff, can't wait to get home and play some more!
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2005-02-09 07:14 [#01492592]
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Yes, best way to synch (unless you've got a fairly simple, repetative beat in the tracks used and a good signal to midi synch box) is like drum machines- use the "tap" button to get an approximation of the BPM, mix your CD/deck to that speed, ie synch the deck to Live, not the other way around (the lack of "nudge" on gear/ableton makes it tricky to do that).
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zkreso
from Kr.sand (Norway) on 2005-02-09 08:30 [#01492632]
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I think I saw a tutorial about DJing with ableton live online somewhere.
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herbwest
from Seattle (United States) on 2005-02-09 11:49 [#01493050]
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my last musical partner, whom i lost to germany, wrote this;
DJ'Ing with Ableton Live
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