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offline manicminer from Paris (France) on 2005-02-07 02:58 [#01489893]
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I'm thinking of doing a laptop DJ set using only Ableton
live....

Take tracks by myself and by other artists (signed or
otherwise), chop them up into a few main loops and then
fanny around with them in a live setting with effects and
stuff.

I started playing around with a few tracks over the weekend,
and I think it would work really well.

Has anyone ever done anything similar?


 

offline Ceri JC from Jefferson City (United States) on 2005-02-07 03:35 [#01489908]
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I've used live as a sampler when DJing (decks/cds).
Pre-record loops for use in it, then synched records playing
to it. Worked well.


 

offline manicminer from Paris (France) on 2005-02-07 04:33 [#01489932]
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Cool. I'd never actually used it until this weekend until I
started playing around with it. It seems absolutely
fantastic. Like a much more powerful version of a phrase
sampler. I've owned a Roland SP808 and a Yamaha SU700, and
this is far easier to use, more versatile and powerful.

What I'm thinking of doing is a straight set based entirely
on Ableton. As I said, I'll cut loops up and just mess
around with them..... I think it should work..... what
worries me is that no-one else seems to be doing this, so is
the software limited in terms of how many samples it can use
or something like that?


 

offline iLoveIDM from London (United Kingdom) on 2005-02-07 04:34 [#01489935]
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the techno DJ sasha uses ableton live when he djs


 

offline isnieZot from pooptown (Belgium) on 2005-02-07 04:45 [#01489938]
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(dj) Surgeon does the same thing with ableton when he Dj's.
take existing track from artists and mixes them with his own
beats and stuff.


 

offline Ceri JC from Jefferson City (United States) on 2005-02-07 04:56 [#01489945]
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Although I wasn't using it constantly, as I say, only as a
sampler for music loops in mixes and vocals (it was a
hollywood themed party so I was using film quotes), but it
was v. stable and didn't have memory problems, despite being
used for almost 6 hours.

Basically, to be on the safe side, I just deleted loops from
the matrix once they were used and then loaded new ones in
in real time. Presumably when the memory allocated to Live
fills up, it'll overwrite the samples you've "unloaded".

I can imagine you doing some good Richie Hawtin "closer to
the edit" type stuff using just live. Maybe use the arranger
(one that looks like acid) for mixing tracks and the other
thing (forget what it's called, the default screen) for
freestyling/playing your own tracks?

Make sure you roughlty BPM you tracks first- live is great,
but it'll still sound arse mixing a 90bpm track with a
133bpm one...


 

offline manicminer from Paris (France) on 2005-02-07 05:08 [#01489950]
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I feel more and more excited the more I think about it. I
want to throw loads of stuff into it - IDM, my stuff, DnB,
techno, hip hop, C64 and Spectrum music...........

I'm going to work on chopping up loads of loops this week
and throw them at Ableton, see what it can handle. I only
have a 1ghz laptop with 256mb, so it's not cutting edge, but
we'll see.......


 

offline Ceri JC from Jefferson City (United States) on 2005-02-07 05:25 [#01489957]
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The PC I used was similar spec. Let me know how you get on.


 

offline stilaktive from a place on 2005-02-07 06:38 [#01489996]
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is there any simple way of syncing live with CD decks for
example?


 

offline somejerk from south florida, US (United States) on 2005-02-09 07:08 [#01492589]
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ableton is the funk, i've been doing something simliar
myself with it.

i like to load my personal tracks up (as i know the bpms)
and use the tap function to sync it up with records or cd's.
pretty fun stuff, can't wait to get home and play some more!


 

offline Ceri JC from Jefferson City (United States) on 2005-02-09 07:14 [#01492592]
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Yes, best way to synch (unless you've got a fairly simple,
repetative beat in the tracks used and a good signal to midi
synch box) is like drum machines- use the "tap" button to
get an approximation of the BPM, mix your CD/deck to that
speed, ie synch the deck to Live, not the other way around
(the lack of "nudge" on gear/ableton makes it tricky to do
that).


 

offline zkreso from Kr.sand (Norway) on 2005-02-09 08:30 [#01492632]
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I think I saw a tutorial about DJing with ableton live
online somewhere.


 

offline herbwest from Seattle (United States) on 2005-02-09 11:49 [#01493050]
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my last musical partner, whom i lost to germany, wrote
this;

DJ'Ing with Ableton Live


 


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