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magicant
from Canada on 2005-01-23 22:11 [#01473731]
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i wrote about this in another thread, but its title wasn't very appealing, and i really want to share this theory with everybody - especially the likes of people who are repelled from a thread title "OMG I'M BRILLIANT". so this is an aptly named thread for all the intellectuals on here that will read and give this some serious thought. i think this is a pretty bitchin' theory, and those who haven't heard have got to know about it.
i have summarized all main points of the theory that were realized in the previous thread.
enjoy!!
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followers of the Warp label are aware that they catalogue their LP's with the title of their label and a number.
example:
Autechre: Incunabula is WARP17. Autechre: Amber is WARP25. Boards Of Canada: Music Has The Right To Children is WARP55.
these catalogue numbers are assigned based on the order of release. right?
yes - but not all the time.
when Autechre's "Confield" was released, it was given WARP128. it should've been WARP88. they jumped up.
i figured this was a commentary from WARP that's the album is ahead of its time. the music is an apt proof of that theory.
now, the last album that Warp released was catalogued WARP127. now is the time that WARP128 should be released - but "Confield" took it. but what do we get instead? the announcement of Autechre's NEW album "Untilted". and what's the catalogue number? WARP180.
this means 2 things: 1) WARP is playing the numbers purposely, and 2) WARP180 is probably a commentary on the nature of their new album. EVEN FURTHER ahead of its time?perhaps it means they're doing a total 180 in their direction. i think they're going in a more dancy direction - hence, the touring.
and what is a 180 curve anyway? a straight line? or, one might call it, an untilted line?
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Thoughtcrime
from Edmonton (Canada) on 2005-01-23 23:24 [#01473740]
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I think with most labels the catalogue number is assigned when the project is first talked about, which is why you sometimes get albums released with very low catalogue numbers well after the catalogue #'s have passed that point. Eg. Planet Mu has been talking about releasing the new Jega album for quite some time but it still has not materialized. They are now talking about a summertime release, and it's listed in the 20's, even though the Mu catalogue is well past the 100 mark.
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cygnus
from nowhere and everyplace on 2005-01-23 23:30 [#01473741]
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i still think untilted is a spelling error
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weatheredstoner
from same shit babes. (United States) on 2005-01-23 23:32 [#01473742]
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but Jega was not purposely done. It was supposed to be released a long time ago, its just still in the works. They should have sceduled it for ziq200 :P
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JAroen
from the pineal gland on 2005-01-23 23:48 [#01473747]
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i think you are all obsessive fanboys. ae make music with computers. if its base 2 its binary but it could be anything. even horsefactory said he read it wrong!! so ae used powers of 2 for some releases. omgwtfbbq, so cool, a hidden reference to mathematics!!!!!!11oneone
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JAroen
from the pineal gland on 2005-01-23 23:48 [#01473748]
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im too lazy to check but im SERIOS. i think gantz graf, confield and draft 7.30 used 64, 128 and 256 respectively.
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JAroen
from the pineal gland on 2005-01-23 23:52 [#01473749]
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yeah i checked. they dont always use powers of 2, just numbers that look 'nice' on occasion
ROFLMAYONAISE now im a fanboy too!!!
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Taxidermist
from Black Grass on 2005-01-24 00:33 [#01473766]
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Warp has been doing that with certain artists to indicate how ahead of the time they feel the album is.
You will notice that with a couple other albums as well. I can't think of any off hand other than the team shadatek release.
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magicant
from Canada on 2005-01-24 00:45 [#01473769]
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i just thinks its neat is all
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acidophilus
from the gates of dawn on 2005-01-24 01:10 [#01473773]
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interesting theory...
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Exaph
from United Kingdom on 2005-01-24 01:39 [#01473783]
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very interesting, and i think your right magicant. i love shit like this.
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cygnus
from nowhere and everyplace on 2005-01-24 01:55 [#01473788]
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i sort of go in for the 180-degree-turn thing, its possible
but when draft 7.30 was coming out, people were saying, yes, this is the most accessible autechre to date
and then i listened to it, and i was like, that is incorrect information there sir
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Taxidermist
from Black Grass on 2005-01-24 01:59 [#01473789]
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Yeah. I concur. I do agree that autechre's influences were most easily recognizable with draft 7.30 though, another thing that those same people seemed to be saying.
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cygnus
from nowhere and everyplace on 2005-01-24 02:19 [#01473792]
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listen to the last one-half second of pntil and turn the volume up very loud
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cygnus
from nowhere and everyplace on 2005-01-24 02:23 [#01473795]
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sorry, last second of vl al 5
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Bob Mcbob
on 2005-01-24 02:33 [#01473800]
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warps albums are 'warp' and a number, and their singles are 'wap' and a number, yet their 'we are reasonalbe people' album was technically a single, and it was 'wap100', even though they had not reached that far in their singles.
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uviol
from United States on 2005-01-24 02:53 [#01473813]
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boards of canada - twoism warp70 : music70
satanstornade warp666
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CS2x
from London (United Kingdom) on 2005-01-24 04:23 [#01473864]
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The word "Untilted" doesn't even exist. What a ridiculous album name. I should have thought of something better.
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Exaph
from United Kingdom on 2005-01-24 04:46 [#01473882]
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dont think ae are arsed about real names
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DJ Xammax
from not America on 2005-01-24 05:22 [#01473930]
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:0
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acidophilus
from the gates of dawn on 2005-01-24 05:33 [#01473944]
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hmmm... what's with last second?
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magicant
from Canada on 2005-01-24 15:37 [#01474911]
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yeah, "untilted" is technically not a word, but this wouldn't be the first time Autechre made up words. is "confield" a word?
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magicant
from Canada on 2007-12-23 00:24 [#02157194]
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I want to bump this thread to get people thinking about how the catalogue numbers often have something to do with the nature of the album.
It seems Quaristice is WARP333? What could this mean? Vinyl plays at 33.3 RPM right?
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Exaph
from United Kingdom on 2007-12-23 03:29 [#02157223]
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Its significant for maybe 2 reasons IMO;
1. 3+3+3 = 9 - this is the 9th album. 2. Don't expect a new Autechre album for a long time?
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BoxBob-K23
from Finland on 2007-12-23 04:40 [#02157233]
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it's half of 666 but since it's a double album (or IS it?), it's like double the fun...
I like that vinyl-speed theory as well. Also, they have a song called 444.
it's a CONSPIRACY, but 'they' don't want you to know... Autechre used to make me numb, but now they make me number.
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futureimage
from buy FIR from Juno (United Kingdom) on 2007-12-23 04:58 [#02157240]
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I think it's just Warp getting bored.
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staz
on 2007-12-23 05:00 [#02157241]
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this is like a Tool thread!
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blaaard
from Imatra (close to sky) (Finland) on 2007-12-23 06:27 [#02157278]
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tenthousands dayze
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jules
from United States on 2007-12-23 10:39 [#02157323]
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haha..this is like a tool thread. and most people who search and search tool songs, art, lyrics, etc. to find the hidden meaning, usually find nothing other than long drawn out theries that make the band chuckle. even people on radiohead boards were all of a sudden fibonacci number theorists who found the hidden connection between in rainbows and ok computer only to have the band laugh at such an idea.
while i do think there is probably some meaning behind their album titles, its probably entirely up to ae to select a number that they feel is significant to them or the album its tagged to and nothing more.
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Vin3islih
from United Kingdom on 2007-12-23 10:54 [#02157326]
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I just think it's a spotty kid on work experience at Warp. He or she was asked to think of numbers for upcoming CDs and vinyl and decided to make shit up to get the fanboi's creaming. That's all.
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magicant
from Canada on 2007-12-23 12:13 [#02157341]
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I like how 3+3+3=9 and its their 9th LP; wasn't somebody saying in the Quaristice thread that there was nothing in the title that hinted at it being their 9th, when usually there is something...
3*3*3=27 too!
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gl0tch
from www.gl0tch.com   on 2007-12-23 12:14 [#02157342]
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I read somewhere that
Quar = 4
and
Stice = 5
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Exaph
from United Kingdom on 2007-12-23 13:34 [#02157376]
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ae always somehow reference the number of the release right?
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magicant
from Canada on 2007-12-23 14:21 [#02157389]
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Apparently!
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