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Electronic music is vast and broad genre, so I can understand why you have to break it up into different categories like Trance, Ambient, Breakcore, Dub, etc. But seriously, IDM isn't even a sub category. Its just a replacement for 'experimental' really... Right? You can have IDM Rock, IDM rap (glitch hop?), IDM anything right? IDM isn't even fucking dance music half the time for christ sake, despite 'dance' being in the name. Whos the fuck-face who came up with this? I dont want another 'idm = pretentious wankshot" thread. I propose this thread be used to hunt down the creator of 'idm' and be killed. Or at least get him to sign up on this msg board and we can make him feel like a cunt. Whos with me? |
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aphex wannabes. |
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IDM means: "dance music that you can't only dance to, but actively listen to, or sit down and relax in your living room while listening to it" |
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and thats ghey. |
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plaid are apparently idm. i'd hardly agree they're experimental though. jav |
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I dont like the term IDM. Electronic suites me fine. |
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idm, the term, was invented by the guy who, when he was said to have listened to dance music, he said "its not dance!, its intelligent music, intelligent dance music!" thus the term was born out of a man who, at the time listened to a new kind of music, but was far too a musical elitist. ironic though those that same attitude is so pervasive in IDM to this day! |
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Electronic Music Without Boundaries = emwb |
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that is almost all music lately |
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I think as qrter said earlier, no one uses this term apart from the people that bang on about how wanky it is. Stop using it and it'll eventually fuck off, along the way of Skiffle and Acid Jazz. |
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i wouldn't consider plaid IDM, i'd say electronic. But thats just me. ... wtf is Skiffle? |
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my problem with it is, it does not describe the music, but more implies that the very act of listening to said music somehow makes you more intelligent than those that turn a blind eye to it, which is shit. |
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we should only refer to it as the "cunty term" |
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it was some music-reporter that was talkin about mr.twin, I think... |
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maybe the media popularized it, but if you think about it, it was probably created by some group of people who found out about warp or one of the early electronic music labels and used the term to deflect the techno or dance music moniker, because they thought it was soundhow smarter than those types of music. |
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Whoever did come up with it deserves a fucking thrashing, why not kill a whole swathe of music by calling it "Clever Music". Warp did themselves no favours by calling the groundbreaking compilation "Artificial Intelligence" and Rephlex continue the farce with their Braindance bollocks. |
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Braindance, i can almost understand it, because somehow it manages to describe the music - esp the whole headphones implication, but again it still says - smarty music - music for intelligent people |
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IDM is an acronym that can refer to different things, depending on context: In music, intelligent/intellectual dance music In medicine, infant of a diabetic mother Integrated Diagnostic Modem Integrated Document Management |
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burn in hell! |
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"more computationally complex and detailed music" is what I think of it. People at wikipedia just lumped together everything that was in the "idm mailing list" as idm, since that mailing list was its origin or something. Given that THAT definition seems to be the more accepted one.. I want to make a new genre with the definition of the first quote I made.. that way it'd be easier to find obscurish gems like crunch 1. and marion by michael fakesch. |
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Why do brains have to imply being pretentious (I think I totally mispelled AND mispronounced that word). They are just certain objective things with properties like any other. |
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Sorry, i know it was you that coined both those phrases, I'm just saying you should have gone with my "REwired Grooves" option. |
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braindance fits by far, better than any term i've heard. "for those who know the difference" |
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just use electronica |
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incredibly dumb moniker indestructable dick masher i do monks i dont masturbate i do masturbate impartial democratic majority interesting dental markings |
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what, you got a prob' with international dinosaur month? |
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impromptu dick molester |
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IDM is not really a genre, it's the name of a mailing-list ..that's how the term started (deja vu) |
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I agree with the term BrainDance better change it to IBM :b |
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IDM will become another marketable genre like rap, house, and trance in about 25 years... ... and it will suck. |
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25? it´s all marketing already! open your eyes! |
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My Alesis Micron has "IDM" rhythm presets. [they suck] |
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agreed |
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a brain is an objective thing, and rephlex might be using to simply imply that it makes your brain dance - hence everyone has a brain, and everyone enjoys music *BAM* music that stimulates your brain - but others might take it as they take idm, simply stated - smarty music - music for computer nerds or what have you, if you dont listen or dont like it, the name implies you dont understand it. |
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:D |
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what the fuck is skiffle? I never thought acid jazz was that bad... |
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damn. |
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is that kip? |
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My friend once referred to Aphex Twin as "acid jazz" |
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its funny how the origin of the name is obscured by alot of revisionist history. the person who said the name came from the hyperreal mailing list is right. it just the name somebody came up with for the mailing list whose purpose was discussing aphex, autechre and other music that didn't quite fit other genres at the time. its kind of akin to a genre being called "xltronic" why did it stick? nobody came up with anything better to lump together artists who are tangentially related to aphex and autechre. |
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i guess it's the term for "alternative electronica" maybe some years ago it was experimental.. but not so much these days |
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it still is highly experimental. |
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i didn't think it was *that* hard to understand the "braindance" theme. are you serious? |
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I think IDM is an area where electronic artist can make music that is skewed a bit more towards dance, but without having to fall in a predictable and monotonous category such as trance, house, ect. The genre leaves itself open to whatever experimentation the artist wants to do with dance oriented music. I think we are trying to hard to define everything in electronic music. Electronic music is absolutly limitless, so the genres are never going to end. Nothing belongs in one place. It's music. That's what it is. IDM is great because it isn't just one thing. It doesn't have to be identified or sound a certian way according to the definition of it's genre. The sounds can be vast and approach dance music from every angle. |
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I just call it expiermental, if anyone asks. The term IDM is far to embarassing to say outloud when someone asks what it stands for. |
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I wish you wouldn't have typed all that because it gave me a newfound respect for the word, and I was quite content hating it before. Anyway, I think you have the right idea. Wolfslice: Same here, except I just say electronica. Though i think experimental would be a better way to explain it to certain particularly thick-headed types. |
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i don't think so. and venetian snares is proof of that |
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at least idm doesn't get a new sub-genre every time someone makes something slightly different, like with various other electronic genres. example: 'progressive psytrance' :sick: |
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jees,half of you say idm to someone when he doesn't understand that vast electronic word. i'm ok with it,i use it to describe the music i listen,although i say experimental also. whatever suits me at the given time. ....it's ok! :D |
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My friend once referred to Aphex Twin as "acid jazz" haha. you can never be seen with him in public again! my favorites always were: internet dork music and it doesn't matter |
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