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fleetmouse
from Horny for Truth on 2005-01-16 18:39 [#01462726]
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I'm going to go work on Max/MSP but that doesn't mean I don't love you all, especially qrter and his cockles, and professor sneakattack the interdimensional rock star.
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sneakattack
on 2005-01-16 18:39 [#01462728]
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shit good call, I have two books open in front of me.. 'night
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ecnadniarb
on 2005-01-16 18:40 [#01462730]
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Max/MSP, haahahah music geek.
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sneakattack
on 2005-01-16 18:41 [#01462732]
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haahahah music geek in denial.
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ecnadniarb
on 2005-01-16 18:57 [#01462754]
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I'm not a music geek. I don't even make music.
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sneakattack
on 2005-01-16 18:58 [#01462755]
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ohhh shit not this again.
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ecnadniarb
on 2005-01-16 18:59 [#01462756]
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No really I don't. Just just mess about with sounds occassionally then piss myself off completely and go back to living a normal life. Besides my girlfriend will be here for the next week so I will be too busy to do anything.
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sneakattack
on 2005-01-16 19:04 [#01462760]
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shit I didn't realize she was long distance! Hopefully not too far; that sucks.
some day I'll make some electronic music.. it will suck.. but I'll probably enjoy it anyway.
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ecnadniarb
on 2005-01-16 19:05 [#01462762]
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She's not...it's just she won't move in with me permanently with me for some reason at the moment...I wear her down or out or something :(
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ecnadniarb
on 2005-01-16 19:06 [#01462764]
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Do you do any music at the moment? Like writing melodies and stuff? If so send me something and let me use it for a track :)
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sneakattack
on 2005-01-16 19:09 [#01462767]
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heh. I composed some towards my music degree but it's hopelessly bad. My harmony is really stupid too..
sucks about her not moving in. Man I can be so repellant in real-life personal interaction that it wouldn't work for me either (no girlfriend at the moment, of course). Anyway I hope you figure that bit out, since you like her so much.
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ecnadniarb
on 2005-01-16 19:14 [#01462772]
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Doesn't matter about her moving in at the moment. I enjoy my space when she's not here and I have to travel a bit myself these days so it works well for both of us.
Send me some of your stuff anyway...I would be interested in having a go :)
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sneakattack
on 2005-01-16 19:20 [#01462774]
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ok, that's good.
well, my stuff is written down and packed away somewhere.. your interest means a lot to me but the shit's really REALLY bad. Also none of it electronic, all classical..
when I do electronic, I'll write a synthesis program myself (not a plugin or something using a library; I'll actually go from scratch, sending bits to the audio buffer). My rough timeline is to start it some time in the next 5 years =( thanks again for asking.
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ecnadniarb
on 2005-01-16 19:23 [#01462777]
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haha ok...I am sure it's not bad though :)
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stilaktive
from a place on 2005-01-16 19:25 [#01462779]
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i get two sticks and hit my tree outside
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sneakattack
on 2005-01-16 19:25 [#01462780]
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pretty lame stuff, dude. I'm really obsessed with technical ability on instruments and sometimes my music does way too much hard shit and misses substance. It's really fucking stupid.
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fleetmouse
from Horny for Truth on 2005-01-16 19:27 [#01462782]
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Okay, so I'm procrastinating again.
While I imagine it would be interesting to make music by screaming ones and zeros into a microphone to a voice recognition program hooked to some kind of logic gate, I don't know why you'd do it unless you were somehow dissatisfied with the existing technology.
I mean, not every flautist carves his instrument out of a man's tibia.
The only reason I'm bothering with Max is I fucking loathe every sequencer I've tried (okay I loathe FL less) and it's the quickest way to build the tool I dream of.
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sneakattack
on 2005-01-16 19:35 [#01462785]
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There are a couple of reasons.
first, my greatest interest in the whole world is rational intelligence, which I wish to implement with computers (a fancy way of saying 'computer science student specializing in artificial intelligence', which is still a little smug). I basically want a computer to dream sound, and make it really good.
Secondly, I want it completely algorithmic.. it may suck.. it's an experiment. I've written programs to generate landscapes, and it's amusing how easy that is compared to generating random sound and making it pleasing. And think about it. you can see so many landscapes (I'm talking real life here), and think ahhh that's beautiful. But how often do you think that about an ambient sound? The brain's sound processing is much shittier than visual processing, so sound needs much more structure. One reason I want it algorithmic is the challenge, another is to have it never end!
anyway, I think it'd be fun.
I speaking vaguely here because it's just something I want to do, I have basically NO ideas right now, and definitely no GOOD ones =(
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sneakattack
on 2005-01-16 19:36 [#01462787]
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erm, to paraphrase that wreck of a post, the goal isn't to make good music. The goal is to make a program which can generate music. And I hope it makes good music, but it will probably become VERY difficult and I'll stop working on it, or work on it very slowly (I have many 'more important' projects to work on =( ).
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sneakattack
on 2005-01-16 19:37 [#01462788]
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the smartest person I've ever met is also the clearest, most succinct person I've ever met. holy shit I'm having trouble learning from that.
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fleetmouse
from Horny for Truth on 2005-01-16 19:39 [#01462789]
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It reminds me of the Indian story of the guru and his student - the student practiced and meditated for 20 years and finally was able to walk on water. He walked across the river to visit his master and tell him. The master hit him with a stick and said "You idiot! You could have taken the ferry for two cents!"
I tell this from memory so perhaps the details are wrong - I think maybe one of them was a vampire or a robot.
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ecnadniarb
on 2005-01-16 19:41 [#01462790]
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Loons, the pair of you.
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sneakattack
on 2005-01-16 19:43 [#01462791]
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hahahahahahahaha
hey by the way, if you're ever interested, look up a mathematician named ramanujan. He's this wicked indian guy, totally self-taught, who the greatest mathematician in england at that time (hardy) brought over and basically attempted to decipher his theorems all day.
for the last year of his life, the story goes, he was face down in bed writing theorems (without proof!) as fast as he could in a note book.
I saw one of these theorems on the last day of my number theory class, and I almost started yelling, and most of the class was swearing. They are things so alien and uncomfortable that the man must have had the brain of god to come up with them.
anyway.
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sneakattack
on 2005-01-16 19:43 [#01462793]
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hey music geek, you're part of this.
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fleetmouse
from Horny for Truth on 2005-01-16 19:46 [#01462795]
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I wish I could count to 11 without taking off my socks. I'm going to buy this book on Vedic mathematics that is supposed to have all kinds of shortcuts to help you do math in your head.
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ecnadniarb
on 2005-01-16 19:48 [#01462796]
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sneakattack
on 2005-01-16 19:48 [#01462797]
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I saw that mentioned once and it may have even been you.. is that possible? this was many months ago, maybe 8 or so.
yeah I've shied away from more computational maths.. though I find calculus to be pretty bad ass. I'm more interested in algebra..
i saw some vedic tricks once and thought it was pretty cool.
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sneakattack
on 2005-01-16 19:49 [#01462798]
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holy shit that's a prime number!!
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sneakattack
on 2005-01-16 19:50 [#01462799]
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I stepped out of this thread momentarily for some fresh air.. it's a weird, weird world out there.
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ecnadniarb
on 2005-01-16 19:52 [#01462801]
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I know it is a prime number...I have everything hard wired into my brain.
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sneakattack
on 2005-01-16 19:53 [#01462802]
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hahahaha everything.
I can never decide if that's what I would love most in life, or if the boredom that brings would be the worst torture.
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fleetmouse
from Horny for Truth on 2005-01-16 19:54 [#01462803]
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Oh probably, I tend to repeat myself and anything anyone has said or written to me lately... echoechoecholalia...
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bryce_berny
from chronno (Canada) on 2005-01-16 19:54 [#01462804]
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you're not the only one working to accomplish that goal ;)
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mylittlesister
from ...wherever (United Kingdom) on 2005-01-16 19:55 [#01462805]
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life is all in the process, not in the result... well that's what i believe
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ecnadniarb
on 2005-01-16 19:55 [#01462806]
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There is no boredom involved...there is always junk to think about...and knowing so much confuses you.
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fleetmouse
from Horny for Truth on 2005-01-16 19:57 [#01462809]
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It's like a Rod Serling curse to know everything unless you have the ability to cope with the knowledge. Otherwise you'd spend your days and nights in the foetal position.
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sneakattack
on 2005-01-16 20:11 [#01462817]
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oh yes, don't worry, I'm aware. I'm not trying to be the first or best, it's something I'll do some day for fun, just like the landscape generator.
and of course I realize you are saying you're one of those people--cheers =) some day when I make a thread about it, I'll bump it when I see you.
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sneakattack
on 2005-01-16 20:12 [#01462818]
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ECHOLALIA IS A GREAT FUCKING WORD
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sneakattack
on 2005-01-16 20:19 [#01462825]
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haha. I'll keep on knowing little then =P
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ecnadniarb
on 2005-01-16 20:28 [#01462834]
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I have started working on a new track. It is called "The Beat Cow"
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fleetmouse
from Horny for Truth on 2005-01-16 20:30 [#01462838]
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I have always been fond of moo-cows.
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ecnadniarb
on 2005-01-16 20:32 [#01462843]
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It has cowbells, beats and milk in it...none of this stupid analogue shite...pure digital cow beats.
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