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Does anyone here teach? You have to study the students carefully for what is difficult for them (no one wants to look dumb!), which is hard at first. Figuring out exactly how long everything will take is hard. Even things like board space are hard at first. blechchhh |
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i've had a teaching course when i was studying. i could never work as a teacher though.. |
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0oh god please tell me that your not going to become a teacher and guide our childrens future ? on one hand that would be bad, ive seen the way you act with people around here, you could ruin many many livees, on the otherhand you could help out the retards that arnt able to see the big picture like i know you can in the meantime, im just watching your avatar girl, yap yap yap about nothing, its been real, its been fun, but it hasnt been real fun im out |
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I'm teaching in a university, frog-slayer von brimwald |
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Yes teaching is hard. I have conducted on site traning in the past for complete novice PC users used to only using a terminal. The mouse was a new experience for them...one woman was crying because her mouse wasn't working, she was actually moving her money purse around the desk. We had people vomitting and everything and it was only 10 minutes into the introduction session. All but two were competent by the end of their training, the two remaining are past all hope. |
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teaching at the university is cool though..although i wouldn't call it teaching. |
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my first day was awful; I couldn't read anyone's feelings at all and could not connect whatsoever. The main problem is I'd say things like 'and this is easy so I can go over it fast, right?' and everyone would look uncomfortable, and I thought maybe I asked a dumb question.. today I asked loooooooooots of questions, even on simple stuff. It doesn't take much more time, it gets them involved, gives them a sense of accomplishment.. It's also surprisingly tiring! |
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well I should have explained.. I'm a 'teaching assistant'; in this particular course the professor lectures 3x a week and I give 1 hour long sessions 2x a week. It's cool because I choose my curriculum completely autonomously. Anyway the point of these is to iron out the shit with students, so it's pretty involved. |
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"I choose my curriculum completely autonomously" meaning you discuss aphex? |
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Oh don't worry, you'd be an excellent teacher as you seem to have mastered the art of constructive criticism, and seem keen to first carefully assess a person's intellect before making any rash conclusions about them. |
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I'm normally pretty good with people when I first meet them I can normally tell the type of person they are. I hate watching people conducting training where they try to 'force' people to get involved though...and I am probably over critical of other peoples teaching methods, therefore in the larger scheme of things I am a shit teacher :D |
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sounds like lots of fun, one word "hot chics in detention" wait, what grades ? ages ? yeah my first comment in this reply, was semi-pathetic congrats by the way |
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and surely the best part is you get to hang out with studentesseseses |
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most of us like you here, except people named Alex |
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HAHAHAHA it's YOU! before I criticized you in that thread (which I was enjoying, by the way. loosen up!), I was commenting on your speedball 2 avatar, but you were too aloof to respond. P.S. you have proved yet again that you're a fucking idiot. |
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I thought I was good with analyzing people but my first day, with a group like this, it was tough. Asking lots of questions has been (so far, after two sessions) the only way I've gotten them really involved in what I was doing. I asked lots and many times a volunteer was so slow in coming that I would target people. Usually I'd go by facial expression, if someone looked really troubled or really victorious always (obviously) got a good response to work with. I have lots of time to keep experimenting.. damn is it exhausting though.. do you feel it takes much energy as well? |
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well I'm a student as well =P and in your other post.. I will bring up aphex some day =) my little mp3 player will be a good way to enter the topic, because I'll use it to record (and criticize!! FUCK it'll be humiliating!) my performance. |
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how many students you work with? because overhere asking questions and remembering students is impossible because of the large groups..must be cool for the students though. |
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this is about 30 kids.. I'm going to input they're grades and everything! I'm not feeling comfortable about that AT ALL. I hate this sort of power.. very very very very much. A computer should be grading and assigning grades.. oh well |
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basically your now forced to grow up, you gotta love society |
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I'm a TA as well but instead of teaching I just mark tests and essays and such, which is both fun and frustrating. I know what you mean about having the power/responsibility of assigning grades to people. It’s always tough to fail someone. |
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haha, here, there are like +300 people at every course...there are some universities where people actually don't fit into lecture rooms and sometimes have to stand by the door and listen..quite weird, but i guess that comes wheen schools are free of charge :) |
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I would love to be a teacher |
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yeah I'm going to have to do that part of it as well. In my school (some of) the below 300 level courses have these supplemental recitation sections; I'm doing 259, 3D calculus. |
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The hardest part about teaching is making sure each child gets a sniff at the Fist of Power. |
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ive NEVER had to be in one of those (fcuk what are they called, not cubicals) those little trailer houses outside schools, cause the schools are to big it makes schools look so ghetto |
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it's pretty satisfying when it goes well, but damn did I underestimate how much energy and thought I'd put into it (very little time spent sitting down plannign things, but lots of away-from-books obsessing). today though one person was frowning while I was proving something and I singled them out, and it was really nice seeing happiness creep into their face as I clarified for them and answered their questions. It's wholesome to feel that people really do care about doing things well, and not just money, hedonism, etc. |
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yeah my school's pretty nice. Though note the lectures are larger, I get a subset of the students enrolled in the class. Higher level classes are of course much smaller (number theory last semester had 10 people). |
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glad mine has nothing like that. |
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im sure these are beginers trouble and you'll learn how to do it with less effort. i remember the first time i had to present some project infront of a large group - i had no idea about how it is going to go but luckly i was well prepared so it went ok...but then after a few more times it went excellent! im sure you even get to enjoy it a lot without almost any effort put in. |
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well, it'll obviously be an endless project. Luckily the second was 10000x better than the first, but I know I have to stay on my toes. |
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I teach part time at a school, it isn't that hard for me because I don't get a big class. I have a small group of students who're pretty content, It does make me feel old though. It's hard sometimes with the feeling of responsibility but it's a two way thing and if I'm doing the best I can it's all I can do. At first I was a nervous wreck though and made a fool of myself. |
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I was very nervous the first time, and somewhat so today. I am teaching material I saw very long ago! Balancing an insane course load simultaneously is nasty. luckily I have very talented students; I can basically expect any student to work any problem, and boosting them now and then is nice. |
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I used to hate when teachers made the class participate. My favorite ones by far were when they did all the lecturing and I just took notes. It was almost as introverted as reading a book. I'd probably let people leave whenver they want or sleep on their desk if I taught. But I still think reading books is much better than listening to someone talk, as far as learning goes. I should just get the fuck off this messageboard before I hurt myself. |
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you are starting to sound like matus |
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Well people are imitative creatures.. and having no friends and thus more of a blank personality slate, I'm especially susceptible to influence. |
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Well my recitations are targetted at kinda exercizing the students. I try to bring in very interesting problems to solve, with good abstract thought and not just mundane computation. I try to get ALL sorts of participation, an even mix of good answers and downright confusion. You can tell SO much by faces--I can keep this distribution easily by looking and picking the appropriate person. By calling lots of people I get them really involved and they think much harder. Learning from someone can be superior to a book if they have lots of experience--they can in real time respond to any query with much more data than what you have in that text book. Think about google--is it better for answering questions than the books on your desk? Yes. And the really good professors I have here, asking them questions is like google to the googolth power. JAroen regardless of whether that is true, I know I sound like you a lot. |
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its not meant as something negative. learning from someone only surpasses books when they arent autistic morons, and you're not 'sharing' said person with 29 other students imhoteps. |
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I would have agreed had I not had a class last semester with a guy named william hrusa; there is no book I could have read in my whole life to get so much information, at such a high level, in such a dense format. and that doesn't mean he just yelled at us; he was very clear and precise and everything he said could be thought about deeply so you could think abuot it as much as you like, or otherwise still get lots from it. |
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See, I'm really just imitating you second hand. |
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fucking asswipes you, ive wasted another 45 minutes here. |
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yeah fuck, we should all get out of here, as fun as this is. |
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well i still have 6 anorganic chemistry chapters to revise :\ |
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gaaaaaahhhh lots here as well (+ sleep). time to log off. |
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I've done a bit of teaching- tutoring kids to improve their reading in a high school and also as a scout leader teaching sailing, canoeing, etc. "Learning from someone can be superior to a book if they have lots of experience--they can in real time respond to any query with much more data than what you have in that text book." Yes, the fact they can see what you're doing and comment on it, be it a bit of code you're writing, or the way you drive. Books can warn you about common mistakes, but until you reach a certain level of proficiency, it's hard to spot in your own work. One of the hardest things is being patient with people who can't grasp what are, to you, very simple things. The best thing I've found is if they really fail to grasp something one way, show them another technique that reaches the same goal, even if it's slightly inferior. Once they've got that and understand it, go back to the original method and try showing them again. Also, with problem solving, start with a problem that just requires reiteration of something they've been taught, then with slightly different values/figures, then one that requires combining a couple of things, before finally doing "real" problem solving. |
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Yeah, but what happens when someone like william hrusa writes a book. There's infinite time for him to organize his thoughts. But yeah, getting questions answered in real time is good. I just have memories of completely stupid forced classes I have absolutely no interest in by people who are bad at teaching like "minority literature", politically correct exclusively "minority" fiction taught by some black woman too who saved the book "black boy" or something that sucked for the end, either for final impact to make it seem like she wasn't pushing an agenda about the suffering of blacks in america or something. After you read each book you have to get together in groups and draw pictures of it and shit. Now that's quality learning. |
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Wasn't my comment worth the wait? |
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I could never give similar problems, and fortunately my students are bright and don't need it (my uni rocks). I'm not too patient with people but I'm willing to listen; I give them time to solve but if they get stuck I'm not going to let them get frustrated. Also with 30 people I don't want anyone getting bored. It's really really really incredible how much you can learn from watching faces. This is of course an obvious fact but hitting my like an avalanche in this context. I was 13/13 on asking people about a problem and predicting what they needed based on their faces--it's that dependable. |
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Yeah, having another brain attached to another pair of eyes observing some skill you are currently doing is something that a book sucks at. I could try reading faces if I didn't have a phobia of looking into them to make eye contact.. oh yeah, if I was even at teacher too. I leave. |
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what's wrong with eye contact? |
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